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  • RyanFitzmagic
    MVP
    • Oct 2011
    • 1959

    #121
    Re: NBA 2K14 - Rob Jones Briefly Explains The Pro Stick: Dribbling and Shooting

    Originally posted by Da_Czar
    A hold in ANY direction will get you a shot. Hold left, hold right, hold at an angle, Hold in any direction = a shot Fitz.

    So you do your move if you want to, then whatever direction it feels comfortable for you to shoot push the stick in that direction.
    Right, but (and maybe I read it wrong) what I thought you were saying is holding the stick in a direction away from the ball hand will do a crossover, regardless of whether you tap it or hold it. If you tap it, it just does the crossover. If you hold it, it does the crossover into the shot.

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    • vannwolfhawk
      MVP
      • Jun 2009
      • 3412

      #122
      Re: NBA 2K14 - Rob Jones Briefly Explains The Pro Stick: Dribbling and Shooting

      Originally posted by Da_Czar
      A hold in ANY direction will get you a shot. Hold left, hold right, hold at an angle, Hold in any direction = a shot Fitz.

      So you do your move if you want to, then whatever direction it feels comfortable for you to shoot push the stick in that direction.
      So, keep the left stick neutral with right stick in any direction for pull up. Then if you are going right with right stick and push left stick right it will be momentum shot in that direction correct?
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      • JasonWilliams55
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        • Jul 2012
        • 2045

        #123
        Re: NBA 2K14 - Rob Jones Briefly Explains The Pro Stick: Dribbling and Shooting

        Originally posted by vannwolfhawk
        So, keep the left stick neutral with right stick in any direction for pull up. Then if you are going right with right stick and push left stick right it will be momentum shot in that direction correct?
        Thats also what I would assume.

        Hopefully tap and hold (towards off hand) will result in a cross into jumper.

        @DaCzar - Fake pass? is it still double tap A?
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        • Da_Czar
          NBA 2K Gameplay Producer, Offensive AI System - SIM NATION
          • Jul 2002
          • 5408

          #124
          Re: NBA 2K14 - Rob Jones Briefly Explains The Pro Stick: Dribbling and Shooting

          Originally posted by RyanFitzmagic
          Right, but (and maybe I read it wrong) what I thought you were saying is holding the stick in a direction away from the ball hand will do a crossover, regardless of whether you tap it or hold it. If you tap it, it just does the crossover. If you hold it, it does the crossover into the shot.
          Taps are dibbles, Holds are shots, All of that is timing based, so you tap then after he starts the crossover... you hold if you want him to shoot. Depending on your timing in the ver I played you could start a cross and pullup before it was implemented or wait and do it after the cross depending on your stick speed.
          Last edited by Da_Czar; 08-20-2013, 10:09 AM.
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          • Da_Czar
            NBA 2K Gameplay Producer, Offensive AI System - SIM NATION
            • Jul 2002
            • 5408

            #125
            Re: NBA 2K14 - Rob Jones Briefly Explains The Pro Stick: Dribbling and Shooting

            Originally posted by vannwolfhawk
            So, keep the left stick neutral with right stick in any direction for pull up. Then if you are going right with right stick and push left stick right it will be momentum shot in that direction correct?
            Yes the version I played that is how it worked.
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            • RyanFitzmagic
              MVP
              • Oct 2011
              • 1959

              #126
              Re: NBA 2K14 - Rob Jones Briefly Explains The Pro Stick: Dribbling and Shooting

              I'm still a little lost, but the demo's coming out soon (I assume), and I don't wanna frustrate anybody because I'm not grasping this.

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              • vannwolfhawk
                MVP
                • Jun 2009
                • 3412

                #127
                Re: NBA 2K14 - Rob Jones Briefly Explains The Pro Stick: Dribbling and Shooting

                1 last question. If I'm going right and moving left stick right and then hold the right stick left is this a spin jumper? If I hold the right stick down is this a step back jumper?
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                • JasonWilliams55
                  MVP
                  • Jul 2012
                  • 2045

                  #128
                  Re: NBA 2K14 - Rob Jones Briefly Explains The Pro Stick: Dribbling and Shooting

                  Originally posted by vannwolfhawk
                  1 last question. If I'm going right and moving left stick right and then hold the right stick left is this a spin jumper? If I hold the right stick down is this a step back jumper?
                  No a spin jumper will be a RS rotation around the players back from the ball hand.

                  I also had the same idea for the stepback jumper, hold RS away from basket.
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                  • RyanFitzmagic
                    MVP
                    • Oct 2011
                    • 1959

                    #129
                    Re: NBA 2K14 - Rob Jones Briefly Explains The Pro Stick: Dribbling and Shooting

                    So, wait... if you tap the stick to the non-ball hand, let the stick get back to a neutral position, and then quickly hold it in the same direction (essentially a double-tap, but with the second tap being held), is that how you do a crossover pullup?

                    And if I'm moving right and hold the right stick left (or any direction), I'll just do a normal pullup?

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                    • Vni
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 14833

                      #130
                      Re: NBA 2K14 - Rob Jones Briefly Explains The Pro Stick: Dribbling and Shooting

                      One thing that I was hoping they brought back from 2K11 is the momentum fade jumper when not using turbo where your player would take 1 step and fade rather than the turbo momentum fadeaway where the guy really fade further away...

                      I'am not sure I make myself clear here though.

                      What I'am saying is that there should be two types of momentum fadeaway shot... One when not using turbo and one when using turbo.

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                      • vannwolfhawk
                        MVP
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 3412

                        #131
                        Re: NBA 2K14 - Rob Jones Briefly Explains The Pro Stick: Dribbling and Shooting

                        Originally posted by JasonWilliams55
                        No a spin jumper will be a RS rotation around the players back from the ball hand.

                        I also had the same idea for the stepback jumper, hold RS away from basket.
                        You know I like my step backs! Lol
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                        • JasonWilliams55
                          MVP
                          • Jul 2012
                          • 2045

                          #132
                          Re: NBA 2K14 - Rob Jones Briefly Explains The Pro Stick: Dribbling and Shooting

                          Originally posted by RyanFitzmagic
                          So, wait... if you tap the stick to the non-ball hand, let the stick get back to a neutral position, and then quickly hold it in the same direction (essentially a double-tap, but with the second tap being held), is that how you do a crossover pullup?
                          Yeah that sounds right.

                          Czar, is off hand passing in? Meaning, is there a penalty for passing with the non-dominate hand? Ala dribbling? Also are layups affected by off hand?
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                          • Vni
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Sep 2011
                            • 14833

                            #133
                            Re: NBA 2K14 - Rob Jones Briefly Explains The Pro Stick: Dribbling and Shooting

                            Originally posted by Vni
                            One thing that I was hoping they brought back from 2K11 is the momentum fade jumper when not using turbo where your player would take 1 step and fade rather than the turbo momentum fadeaway where the guy really fade further away...

                            I'am not sure I make myself clear here though.

                            What I'am saying is that there should be two types of momentum fadeaway shot... One when not using turbo and one when using turbo.
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                            See at 0.20 that's the shots I'am talking about. They where missing from 2K13 for some reasons. That's the kind of animations we should trigger when not using turbo and doing a momentum shot. Not the full strenght end of the shot clock fade away three type of shots lol.

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                            • bumpyface
                              Rookie
                              • Aug 2011
                              • 383

                              #134
                              I'm so glad Live is coming back out.

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                              • alabamarob
                                MVP
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 3352

                                #135
                                Re: NBA 2K14 - Rob Jones Briefly Explains The Pro Stick: Dribbling and Shooting

                                If the pro stick can do a spin jumper without using the left stick in anyway, then I hope that there is a difference between spinning and then commanding a shot mid spin with the right stick, and commanding a spin jumper with the pro stick. I think a spin jumper should be smoother and more seemless than deciding to do a jumper mid spin.

                                If you played ball before you know that doing a spin jumper, and deciding to do a jumper mid spin are two totally different things. The dribble, gather, and timing are different.

                                Same thing for step back jumpers.
                                Last edited by alabamarob; 08-20-2013, 10:50 AM.
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