OS - Press Row Podcast: Episode 37 - Madden NFL 25 Ratings with EA’s Donny Moore

[Gorilla Glass]

Re: OS - Press Row Podcast: Episode 37 - Madden NFL 25 Ratings with EA’s Donny Moore

I agree with you, RG3 should be a 90.

Atleast that to honor his ROY status...

[ggsimmonds]

Re: OS - Press Row Podcast: Episode 37 - Madden NFL 25 Ratings with EA’s Donny Moore

You are right that it is straight line logic here. And the logic is that those two played at the same level so they should be rated equally.

The stats:
QB % yrds TDs int rate ypg
RG3 65.6 3200 20 5 102.4 213
Wilson 64.1 3118 26 10 100 195

They both played at certain level (EA thinks this level is 89 overall). Wilson received a larger increase over last year because he had a lower initial rating so he had more ground to make up.

And sure Wilson may have struggled out of the gate, but if that is true then logic tells us he must have finished strong to end up with those numbers. That suggests a good deal of progression throughout the season which, correct me if I am wrong, but that is important for a rookie QB.

Tell me something since you are clearly not a Redskin homer and re completely unbiased, how would you have it? What should their ratings be?

[Gorilla Glass]

Re: OS - Press Row Podcast: Episode 37 - Madden NFL 25 Ratings with EA’s Donny Moore

You are right that it is straight line logic here. And the logic is that those two played at the same level so they should be rated equally.

The stats:
QB % yrds TDs int rate ypg
RG3 65.6 3200 20 5 102.4 213
Wilson 64.1 3118 26 10 100 195

They both played at certain level (EA thinks this level is 89 overall). Wilson received a larger increase over last year because he had a lower initial rating so he had more ground to make up.

And sure Wilson may have struggled out of the gate, but if that is true then logic tells us he must have finished strong to end up with those numbers. That suggests a good deal of progression throughout the season which, correct me if I am wrong, but that is important for a rookie QB.

Tell me something since you are clearly not a Redskin homer and re completely unbiased, how would you have it? What should their ratings be?

You did yourself no favors posting stats. I purposely left them out.

Anyways based on stats alone tells me they shouldn't be on the same level especially since RG3 missed several games last year and still exceeded those of Wilson's.

I would put Wilson below Andrew Luck at an 87. I put RG3 at 91. This is based on where they started and ended.

[ggsimmonds]

Re: OS - Press Row Podcast: Episode 37 - Madden NFL 25 Ratings with EA’s Donny Moore

You did yourself no favors posting stats. I purposely left them out.

Anyways based on stats alone tells me they shouldn't be on the same level especially since RG3 missed several games last year and still exceeded those of Wilson's.

I would put Wilson below Andrew Luck at an 87. I put RG3 at 91. This is based on where they started and ended.

We would have to agree to disagree. In the Maddenverse a 4 point difference in overall is significant. I don't see that amount of separation between the two.

[Gorilla Glass]

Re: OS - Press Row Podcast: Episode 37 - Madden NFL 25 Ratings with EA’s Donny Moore

We would have to agree to disagree. In the Maddenverse a 4 point difference in overall is significant. I don't see that amount of separation between the two.

Yeah man agree to disagree.

I'm just upset that last season RG3 was having awesome games and he was given no stat upgrades or very minimum! The Dallas game where he was destroying them on Thanksgiving day was giving a 1 point awareness stat. Russell Wilson throws for 135 yards one game and he gets a 2 point bump to overall stats???

Yeah we'll never agree on this.

[darthsat]

Re: OS - Press Row Podcast: Episode 37 - Madden NFL 25 Ratings with EA’s Donny Moore

Who improved more last season between RG3 and Wilson? It was absolutely Russell Wilson. More improvement on the field equals more improvement points in his ratings.

Remove the player names...
Player A:
Starting Overall: 83
Stats: 65.6% 3200yds 20TDs 5int 102.4rate 213ypg
This player started season with high expectations (and a high overall), and met or slightly exceeded expectations.
Ending Overall: 89 (Measure of his final production)

Player B:
Starting Overall: 70
Stats: 64.1% 3118yds 26TDs 10int 100rate 195ypg
This player started season with low expectations (and a low overall), and greatly exceeded expectations.
Ending Overall: 89 (Measure of his final production)

Greatly exceeding your starting expectations means more rating increase vs slightly exceeding or matching your starting expectation. Since their overall level of individual production as of week 18 was the same, their season end overall is the same.

[ggsimmonds]

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Yeah man agree to disagree.

I'm just upset that last season RG3 was having awesome games and he was given no stat upgrades or very minimum! The Dallas game where he was destroying them on Thanksgiving day was giving a 1 point awareness stat. Russell Wilson throws for 135 yards one game and he gets a 2 point bump to overall stats???

Yeah we'll never agree on this.

Well could we agree that Cam Newton is ridiculously overrated?

[Gorilla Glass]

Re: OS - Press Row Podcast: Episode 37 - Madden NFL 25 Ratings with EA’s Donny Moore

Who improved more last season between RG3 and Wilson? It was absolutely Russell Wilson. More improvement on the field equals more improvement points in his ratings.

Remove the player names...
Player A:
Starting Overall: 83
Stats: 65.6% 3200yds 20TDs 5int 102.4rate 213ypg
This player started season with high expectations (and a high overall), and met or slightly exceeded expectations.
Ending Overall: 89 (Measure of his final production)

Player B:
Starting Overall: 70
Stats: 64.1% 3118yds 26TDs 10int 100rate 195ypg
This player started season with low expectations (and a low overall), and greatly exceeded expectations.
Ending Overall: 89 (Measure of his final production)

Greatly exceeding your starting expectations means more rating increase vs slightly exceeding or matching your starting expectation. Since their overall level of individual production as of week 18 was the same, their season end overall is the same.

Well if that's what stats are based on, why don't guys who aren't meeting expectations, not drop 19 points?
No one knew RG3 was going be that good. He was good coming out of college and was rewarded for it and his Heisman trophy. He exceeded more than 6 points. He should be atleast a 90 -91 and would be if Donny would've rated him just like he did everyone else.

I'm bored with it now, but I think its some str8 up, grade A, BS.

[Gorilla Glass]

Re: OS - Press Row Podcast: Episode 37 - Madden NFL 25 Ratings with EA’s Donny Moore

Well could we agree that Cam Newton is ridiculously overrated?

Yes!!! He struggled and ended up 90 something. I let @Donny_Moore know about it too.

[GiantBlue76]

Re: OS - Press Row Podcast: Episode 37 - Madden NFL 25 Ratings with EA’s Donny Moore

No offense, but maybe your entire rationale is exactly why the ratings are so awful game wide. Everyone wants THEIR team to be rated superhuman rather than realistically. IMO, there are very few players in the NFL who should be rated 90 or above. VERY few. What's wrong with an 89 overall rating for RG3? That makes him an elite player after only one season in which he was injured along with the fact that he didn't throw a ton of TDs.

We get that he's exciting and talented, but what else do you want him to be rated at?

[Gorilla Glass]

Re: OS - Press Row Podcast: Episode 37 - Madden NFL 25 Ratings with EA’s Donny Moore

Please read the thread and catch up. My rationale is the reasons of Donnys ineptness? Now that's comedy right there.

[GiantBlue76]

Re: OS - Press Row Podcast: Episode 37 - Madden NFL 25 Ratings with EA’s Donny Moore

Please read the thread and catch up. My rationale is the reasons of Donnys ineptness? Now that's comedy right there.

I did read it. I've also listened to the entire podcast. I am not a fan of Mr. Moore's ability either, but in reality, part of the problem as to why the ratings are inflated and the game is so out of balance is because everyone cries that their hometown players are not rated high enough. Due to the way EA markets Madden and handles ratings, this results in unnecessary and unrealistic changes to the ratings which directly effects how the game plays.

There is nothing wrong with RG3 being rated an 89. IMO, that's too high, but it already makes him an elite player after only one season in the NFL.

[CheesHd09]

Loooool this provided a nice chuckle.

[Gorilla Glass]

Re: OS - Press Row Podcast: Episode 37 - Madden NFL 25 Ratings with EA’s Donny Moore

I did read it. I've also listened to the entire podcast. I am not a fan of Mr. Moore's ability either, but in reality, part of the problem as to why the ratings are inflated and the game is so out of balance is because everyone cries that their hometown players are not rated high enough. Due to the way EA markets Madden and handles ratings, this results in unnecessary and unrealistic changes to the ratings which directly effects how the game plays.

There is nothing wrong with RG3 being rated an 89. IMO, that's too high, but it already makes him an elite player after only one season in the NFL.

If he actually listened I would agree 100%, but he is the dictator.
Those are of his opinions, not basedcon stats 40 times or some base line formula.
I not the one to complain about stats but I see guys getting bumped for doing nothing then guys getting super bumped because of name or teams. Its bs.

[stlpimpmonsta]

Re: OS - Press Row Podcast: Episode 37 - Madden NFL 25 Ratings with EA’s Donny Moore

Never though someone would get so confused in something so simple. Is homerism that effective on the mind?