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  • Suntan Superman
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    • Feb 2009
    • 7135

    #16
    Originally posted by MattyEdgeworth
    What do you mean why not? I think it's pretty obvious why not.

    Obviously it makes sense from a business perspective but I am not a businessman, and naturally I don't have ties to thse companies. I am simply a consumer who expects that when I buy something, I expect the same product no matter which platform I buy it on. I understand exclusive titles more, but if a game is multiplatform I expect to get the same game. Basically, If you are a big fan of UT but have a PS3 or are getting a PS4 you are getting an inferior product. Now obviously this isn't that big of a deal, but it is the principle of the thing, and the fact remains that that version has something that PS players won't get.
    Its really not obvious. They may be the same game in name, but they are two different platforms that have different requirements. Its kind of like buying generic cereal and being mad it doesn't taste the same as the brand name cereal. Just because you expect it, doesn't mean they should do it. Quite frankly, the industry is becoming more and more "Us against Them" because it is obvious consumers don't care about business, so there's really no reason for the business to care about the consumer. Its kind of like retail employees, they don't really care about you, because you don't care about them.
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    • MattyEdgeworth
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      • Oct 2011
      • 570

      #17
      Re: Legends Are Coming to FIFA 14 Ultimate Team (Only on Xbox & Xbox One)

      Originally posted by Suntan Superman
      Its really not obvious. They may be the same game in name, but they are two different platforms that have different requirements. Its kind of like buying generic cereal and being mad it doesn't taste the same as the brand name cereal. Just because you expect it, doesn't mean they should do it. Quite frankly, the industry is becoming more and more "Us against Them" because it is obvious consumers don't care about business, so there's really no reason for the business to care about the consumer. Its kind of like retail employees, they don't really care about you, because you don't care about them.
      It's really not, different platforms but they are the same game and therefore should have the same features.

      "because it is obvious consumers don't care about business, so there's really no reason for the business to care about the consumer." I'm sorry, but in my opinion this is a load of nonsense. Consumers care about the business by buying their product.


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      • geisterhome
        MVP
        • Sep 2011
        • 2101

        #18
        Re: Legends Are Coming to FIFA 14 Ultimate Team (Only on Xbox & Xbox One)

        Dennis Bergkamp
        Fernando Hierro
        Robert Pirès
        Oliver Bierhoff
        Filippo Inzaghi
        Frank Rijkaard
        Sol Campbell
        Patrick Kluivert
        David Seaman
        Fabio Cannavaro
        Henrik Larsson
        Teddy Sheringham
        Rui Costa
        Jens Lehmann
        Andriy Shevchenko
        Hernán Crespo
        Gary Lineker
        Davor Šuker
        Frank de Boer
        Freddie Ljungberg
        Marco van Basten
        Marcel Desailly
        Paolo Maldini
        Edwin van der Sar
        Paulo Futre
        Lothar Matthäus
        Ruud van Nistelrooy
        Stefan Effenberg
        Gary Neville
        Patrick Vieira
        Robbie Fowler
        Michael Owen
        Christian Vieri
        Ruud Gullit
        Pauleta
        George Weah
        Gheorghe Hagi
        Pelé
        Gianfranco Zola

        Pele is a legend no doubt, Weah too maybe. Mattheus won the WC and was world of the year so ok. Van Basten is a legend. Cannavaro won the WC and was world player as well as center back.

        For sure Pauleta, Fowler, Futre, Ljungberg and Seaman shouldnt make that list.
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        • Suntan Superman
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          • Feb 2009
          • 7135

          #19
          Originally posted by MattyEdgeworth
          It's really not, different platforms but they are the same game and therefore should have the same features.

          "because it is obvious consumers don't care about business, so there's really no reason for the business to care about the consumer." I'm sorry, but in my opinion this is a load of nonsense. Consumers care about the business by buying their product.
          Its not nonsense, nearly 300 game companies have gone out of business in the last 5 years, yet no one blinks an eye at that. I don't remember anyone caring when THQ went out of business.

          Also, do you complain about the PC not getting the same love? I missed that, or do they not count to you?
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          • MattyEdgeworth
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            • Oct 2011
            • 570

            #20
            Re: Legends Are Coming to FIFA 14 Ultimate Team (Only on Xbox & Xbox One)

            Originally posted by Suntan Superman
            Its not nonsense, nearly 300 game companies have gone out of business in the last 5 years, yet no one blinks an eye at that. I don't remember anyone caring when THQ went out of business.

            Also, do you complain about the PC not getting the same love? I missed that, or do they not count to you?
            "Do they not count to you?" **** off....Yes it's a joke as well obviously. It's also pathetic that they don't even get the infinity engine. However I don't play sports games on the PC, whereas I will be getting the PS4 hence why I am obviously going to talk about.

            And yes it is nonsense, companies are only in it to make money which is completely natural of course. However, It's the consumers that make them that money and if they are putting out a product that is not up to standard then that is on the company not the consumer. In this case, they are giving PS3/PS4/PC users and inferior product to what Xbox users will get. To me that shouldn't happen. Yes, It is only a minor point but it's the principle and good thing you brought up PC because in that case it's an even bigger difference.


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            • JJT
              Pro
              • Mar 2010
              • 806

              #21
              Re: Legends Are Coming to FIFA 14 Ultimate Team (Only on Xbox & Xbox One)

              The full game is on all of the systems, microsoft payed for this "bonus" content for the xbox 1, if you want to have legends that arent legends and probably are impossible to pull anyways then buy it on x1 if not buy ps4.

              All good.

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              • Suntan Superman
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                • Feb 2009
                • 7135

                #22
                Originally posted by MattyEdgeworth
                "Do they not count to you?" **** off....Yes it's a joke as well obviously. It's also pathetic that they don't even get the infinity engine. However I don't play sports games on the PC, whereas I will be getting the PS4 hence why I am obviously going to talk about.

                And yes it is nonsense, companies are only in it to make money which is completely natural of course. However, It's the consumers that make them that money and if they are putting out a product that is not up to standard then that is on the company not the consumer. In this case, they are giving PS3/PS4/PC users and inferior product to what Xbox users will get. To me that shouldn't happen. Yes, It is only a minor point but it's the principle and good thing you brought up PC because in that case it's an even bigger difference.
                Cool, if you feel its an inferior product, then why buy it? And its great that you don't think it should happen, but you've yet to give one solid reason as to why it shouldn't. You also seem a bit mad, maybe take a step back and think about more than yourself?
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                • MattyEdgeworth
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                  • Oct 2011
                  • 570

                  #23
                  Re: Legends Are Coming to FIFA 14 Ultimate Team (Only on Xbox & Xbox One)

                  Originally posted by Suntan Superman
                  Cool, if you feel its an inferior product, then why buy it? And its great that you don't think it should happen, but you've yet to give one solid reason as to why it shouldn't. You also seem a bit mad, maybe take a step back and think about more than yourself?
                  Mate you are chatting absolute ****, you haven't given me any reason why it should happen and quite frankly, I'm done talking rubbish with you. I have given my reasons so I don't know if you just missed them, or if you being deliberately obtuse.

                  One last thing though, You argument is that it's okay that companies do this sort of thing ie- give one version of the same game features that another version doesn't have, because consumers don't care about the company. I have to laugh if that's the case.

                  Do you think this is a good thing?

                  And like I said before, stop talking bollocks. You're telling me to think about more than myself, I play FIFA on the Xbox not the PS3 and I still think it's ridiculous. Same as when other games get exclusive content or timed exclusives, I do not agree with that at all.
                  Last edited by MattyEdgeworth; 08-21-2013, 05:44 AM.


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                  • Suntan Superman
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                    • Feb 2009
                    • 7135

                    #24
                    I'm fairly certain I don't need to give a reason, because its pretty freaking obvious why its happening. EA needs to make money, Microsoft gave them a means to make money, and in what was a surprise to no one except you, EA took the offer. The only reasons I see above are because "its not fair to PS4" which in and of itself isn't really a valid reason. Why would EA take less money to make it fair for people? What business sense does that make? None. Absolutely none. Just like the consoles themselves are different, the iterations of games are different, they have been for quite some time now.

                    And frankly, if anyones speaking **** its you, pretty much everything you've said just reeks of typical consumer entitlement. Spoiled rotten by your own selfish sentiments.
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                    • Yeats
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                      • Mar 2012
                      • 1581

                      #25
                      Re: Legends Are Coming to FIFA 14 Ultimate Team (Only on Xbox & Xbox One)

                      Corporate partnerships and exclusives are the way of the world and gaming world now. Getting angry about it makes no sense unless you're into high blood pressure and premature baldness. Plus it's really a non-issue given each console will have its own exclusives. Choose the console that works for you, that's the only control one has.
                      Last edited by Yeats; 08-21-2013, 09:19 AM.

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                      • orion523
                        All Star
                        • Aug 2007
                        • 6709

                        #26
                        Re: Legends Are Coming to FIFA 14 Ultimate Team (Only on Xbox & Xbox One)

                        Originally posted by Yeats
                        Corporate partnerships and exclusives are the way of the world and gaming world now. Getting angry about it makes no sense unless you're into high blood pressure and premature baldness. Plus it's really a non-issue given each console will have its own exclusives. Choose the console that works for you, that's the only control one has.
                        Exactly, games have included exclusive content for years now, some have even gone so far as to make an entire franchise exclusive(third party obviously). The fact that one version of a game has exclusive content shouldn't really be news, at all. In a console war such as the one we're about to embark on, anything goes. The bottom line is both companies(Microsoft and Sony) are going to do all they can to draw in gamers, personally I find it a masterstroke by Microsoft to be able to pull off such a coup with a brand as huge as EA Sports.

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