3-4 defense?

[PhillyWhat2011]

Does this D work ever in franchise?

I haven't bought madden in the last 5 years and was interested in picking this one up. One of the biggest things that used to bother me was not being able to use this D, in franchise mode, with any success. I could have a 350 pound 90 overall NT who was blocked by one man and rarely made the tackles when he blew a play up and each OLB would never get anywhere near the QB. Are issues like this still in this game or newer versions?

Thanks in advance!

Ed

[1MANARMY]

Re: 3-4 defense?

Does this D work ever in franchise?

I haven't bought madden in the last 5 years and was interested in picking this one up. One of the biggest things that used to bother me was not being able to use this D, in franchise mode, with any success. I could have a 350 pound 90 overall NT who was blocked by one man and rarely made the tackles when he blew a play up and each OLB would never get anywhere near the QB. Are issues like this still in this game or newer versions?

Thanks in advance!

Ed

Unfortunately defense is broken in this game especially with the greatness of the new and improved run blocking .

Only thing that works in madden is nano blitzes and max coverage .

Good luck .

[PhillyWhat2011]

Re: 3-4 defense?

I was afraid of that. I figured after all these years you could eventually play a defense that every team in the league uses and have success but I guess not.

Thanks for the reply.

[Ice_Cold345]

Re: 3-4 defense?

I was afraid of that. I figured after all these years you could eventually play a defense that every team in the league uses and have success but I guess not.

Thanks for the reply.

Messing with sliders could make defense at least playable (and other house rules like no switching from a player, making it more CPU controlled) but playing one or the other really doesn't feel any different. I don't get that feel of the difference between running one or the other.

[PhillyWhat2011]

Re: 3-4 defense?

I'd just like to have a pig NT that's takes up a couple blockers and at least one pass rushing OLB that matters.

[Ice_Cold345]

Re: 3-4 defense?

I'd just like to have a pig NT that's takes up a couple blockers and at least one pass rushing OLB that matters.

I know, I would as well, since I like playing the 3-4 but EA doesn't really know what the 3-4 is except that it's a defense. I really wish you could make your own formations/plays because I'm not always going to run my guys on the line in the same position and adjust the whole line as whole doesn't do it.

[goravens2052]

Re: 3-4 defense?

I guess it depends for some people, but I know playing the demo with the Ravens I haven't had trouble with the 3-4. Once I re-do the depth chart and move Daryl Smith to starter, Brandon Williams to NT I'm pretty dominant. I had that fat blob Mt. Cody in at NT and got zero pressure until I switched out to Brandon Williams.

3-4 D works for me.

[Hooe]

3-4 defense?

Been using the 3-4 defense since Madden 2004 without issues with respect to ability to generate stops and turnovers. Switching to the 4-3 front this year, however, but only on account of what my team is doing in real life.

I've kinda grown to think the distinction is a bit overrated, in any event, and that the play calling and personnel have more to do with the success of the defense than the default front.

[eadieryzv]

Re: 3-4 defense?

Cody in at NT and got zero pressure until I switched out to Brandon Williams.

[Find_the_Door]

Been using the 3-4 defense since Madden 2004 without issues with respect to ability to generate stops and turnovers. Switching to the 4-3 front this year, however, but only on account of what my team is doing in real life.

I've kinda grown to think the distinction is a bit overrated, in any event, and that the play calling and personnel have more to do with the success of the defense than the default front.

Same here - I'm guessing you're a Dallas fan too?

[Ueauvan]

Re: 3-4 defense?

i play coach mode in m13

i play 3-4 mainly, basically because i have 4 lbers at the 49ers that are good. but i prefer 3-4 anyway for flexibility.

whether its ncaa, hc09 etc i try and have flexible playbook. i want my 11 best defenders on the pitch most of the time. therefore i use 3-3-5 2-3-6 etc and depending on whether 2nd mlb, 2nd ss, nickel back, 2nd dt tends to which formation i prefer running, obviously taking account of down and distance, state of the game etc.

i alway find it hard for my NT to get making tackles or sacks or batdowns. then again i dont find many NT prospects in the draft that fit my idea of a NT who takes 2 blockers to neutralise

it gets to the point where if im using 49ers playbook i sub 2-3-6 sam (iirc) aldon goes RE, bowman goes ROLB, best DE say Justin goes to DT, best ss goes to SS1 (ie where you normally cover 2 ss, in this form the SS1 comes down into the box) and the best remaining DB usually a S takes the SS1 position in the formation

or just use the 1-4-6 sub formation from another playbook, gets the best players i have on the field, and as i usually play man the lbers are good enough to neutralise the run

may all change in M25

[No Wayy Andre]

Re: 3-4 defense?

I have ran a 3-4 defense for the past 4 years of Madden. I mean, I have played the 4-3 sometimes online but I just am accustomed to the 3-4 so I usually force it and move around the depth chart a lot.

I, too, have trouble getting good NT play. My NTs never really do much unless it's a run right up the middle. Because of that, I feel like I primarily run a 2-3-6 and 2-4-5. Nowadays, I only run a 3-4 if I can sense a run or want to throw off my opponent.

[cjallure24]

Also, during franchise mode, in previous versions of Madden, it was very difficult to get teams who use the 3-4, to generate sacks with a OLB. I never seen guys like D. Ware, Clay Matthews, etc. Get double digit sacks in a year.

It's extremely frustrating when I make pre snap adjustments to get Orakpo matched up against a TE, or FB, only to have the OT on the opposite, glide/shift across the offensive line to make a last second block.

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[mattmilone]

Re: 3-4 defense?

I think the 3-4 is a sore spot that really shows how "unintellligent" the players on the field are, contextually. The 3-4 relies (and only works) as a two-gap scheme, by the linemen don't have actual two responsibility. Defense in Madden will continue to be a facade until players have a real list of contextual choices to make: if im the floating safety in a Cover 1 Robber, and they have 21 personnel on the fie, and AP has gashed us all day, I need to sneak into the box. Hopefully next gen can/wants to replicate real football decision making like that.

[aspengc8]

Re: 3-4 defense?

Since real physics, weight, strength & momentum are still non-existent in Madden, your want to focus your defensive lineman on BLOCK SHEDDING first, STRENGTH second. This is the only attribute that matters when it comes to a good NT. The STR attribute will sometimes get you that 'push the OL into the backfield animation' but the BLK SHED gets him off the block for both run & pass.

Just like the OL test that was performed said RUN/PASS BLK & RUN/PASS BLK footwork were the only that mattered