Madden NFL 25 Review (360/PS3)

[MJG2]

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I am not surprised about the score, or the lack of Gamers loving the game. EA Sports does this every year. You all expect change. You all expect change on the Next Gen. You all expect it to be different, in a few years; on the Next Gen systems. Back when everybody had Xbox/PS2's; only the graphics were better. But, you/we/us expect it to be different, better, improved...... almost never is. I only bought one 360 Football game....... NCAA Football '11. It was the best, up to that point. Haven't wasted my money before then, or since then; on an EA Sports game. Supposedly, NBA Live is going to be better. How good was the last EA Sports Basketball game? When was the last EA Sports Basketball game? Why is that? EA Sports gamers have to do the same to the Madden Franchise, too. I was on the EA / 2K fence for awhile, NBA wise. Made the change, on NBA 2k7. Every year; I always check out the EA Sports games...... probably like you all. Except for NCAA Football '11; I haven't bought an EA Sports game, since the switch. not a hockey fan --- What is worse, than buying from the Competitor? Is, not buying; when there is no competitor.

[michigan21]

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My biggest problem with Madden is the presentation. A few awkwardly animated cutscenes does not equal presentation.

Why are the replays done from such a weird camera angle?
Why no decent halftime show and weekly breakdown show? Nfl 2k did it.
Why has the commentary been lacking for so long? Nba 2k nails it.
Why no interactive sidelines? allpro 2k8 did it.
Why not show other key players taking the field, instead of the same 2 or 3 animations for the QB every game?
Where are the authentic stadium sounds?
Why not show players running into and out of the huddle?
When a RB or WR gets subbed out due to fatigue, why not show him signal to the sidelines for the backup?
Why don't the players ever toss the ball to the ref after plays?
Why are some of the tackle animations so cartoony
Where are mascots and cheerleaders?

Why can't EA do subtle animations for celebrations instead of the over the top cartoony ones that they use now? Just have the players high five, butt helmets, spike the ball..etc.

MLB The Show and Nba 2K both have gameplay issues but, their overall presentation of the sport allows ,me to be more forgiving. Madden is a mix of C+ gameplay and D- presentation IMO. I know a few people that are not fans of NBA2k13's gameplay but they love the presentation because it replicates the excitement of the sport.

TL DR version: If Maddens presentation was an A+ I could be more forgiving of its C+ gameplay. But Maddens presentation is worse than the gameplay.

I've long said until EA gets these things right in Madden and ncaa, I won't buy. No excuses. Halftime shows are part of football. How in the **** does neither game still do a decent halftime show? EA will never get this right.

[Franchise408]

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I'm curious to what is considered SIM, because when EA gave the option to slow it down, people where raving the SIM word then.

Everyone seems to have different opinions on what the word truly means.

Well for one, the existence of defense would be a good start.

[Boilerbuzz]

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I've long said until EA gets these things right in Madden and ncaa, I won't buy. No excuses. Halftime shows are part of football. How in the **** does neither game still do a decent halftime show? EA will never get this right.

I will never let bland presentation drive me away from a game if the gameplay is truly there. The issues with presentation have always been there and I've long given up on Madden there. FIFA does a good job. So its not an EA thing. I just want the items I listed. In said as much to the designer I met at E3. As an ex-player, he agreed. I just hope he will actually be given the freedom and authority to get it done. Knowing the EA culture, I can't be certain he will. But hopefully, things are changing.

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[savoie2006]

C'mon the L.A. Kings fired Barry Melrose after losing in the Stanley Cup Finals, so that Cpu logic isn't that bad lol when worse has happened in reality.

[bucfan47]

If you guys want a good slider set you can check out my black set by downloading them from EA Share @ BucsM25Black

It does not address the Read Option, so if you are a team with read option plays you will want to remove them or not use them. For the rest of you, hope you have fun with them.

[bakan723]

Does the game still feel extremely 'automated' ? (cpu constantly taking control over the player you have highlighted)

[C the Lyte]

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To the folks who gripe about the adding and taking away of features.. how is this franchise supposed to reinvent itself every year without new features that may eventually be replaced by others?
There are tons of features we can go back to that this applies to.
If the game was perfect (every feature and graphics/gameplay perfect) and EA only added only new rosters each year... could you imagine the griping then?
The revolving features are just the nature of a yearly franchise.. a franchise based on a game that rarely changes.. in the last few years, how many real changes have come to the NFL?

We have had running QB's change the game in real life, and he read option is being ran in the NFL
We have had spectacular passing season totals, and AP almost broke the rushing record.

Does that sound like a ton of content to base a 4 years of updates on? Of course not.. so EA has to make stuff, add features if you will to make the annual game release interesting.

Whatever happened to creativity? Whatever happened to tweaking to perfection? They add/focus on a certain aspect and you see minimal improvement to added features.

In reading your post though, I'm not sure if you're justifying EA or bashing them. I R Confuse. Not your fault though, my comprehension skills.

I've said it before, but I've been told by a good source skip next gen this year

I've read in magazines (GI) and other online sources (some being the game producers themselves) that games released for current and next gen systems will not differ a whole lot from each other for now. Graphics-wise, yes. And there may be a few added features here or there on next gen. But as far as core gameplay, if it comes out for both gen systems, the core gameplay will be pretty similar.


Dustin, was this review including the Day 1 patch or no? Would the patch affect your review if so (gameplay, etc.)?

[braves_94]

All I want is a sim quality game, where my Jaguars can win the Super Bowl in year 1. Is that so much to ask for???

[PJ33]

Why does my home crowed cheer for first downs by the away team along with the stadium music being played for away teams first downs? Also how many times do I have to hear the same song played on one drive? WOW!!!! had to make some adjustments with the volume settings there.

[swiftychampleone]

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Why does my home crowed cheer for first downs by the away team along with the stadium music being played for away teams first downs? Also how many times do I have to hear the same song played on one drive? WOW!!!! had to make some adjustments with the volume settings there.

I was done when I saw the home crowd celebrating in a video when the AWAY team scored a TD. It's a crying shame when I realized that I didn't buy one Madden game this entire gen. I'm disagreeing with a few of you. Presentation means EVERYTHING in a sports game. If I'm not "brought in" by the game, then why am I playing? Seems like a robotic experience to me. Presentation and TV production values are part of the reason why some fans don't attend games. These TV stations are so good that the best seat in the house is at home.

[Skyboxer]

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Madden has a LOT of things it can do better/"real"

To be fair I'm passing on M25 current gen and am heading staright to Next Gen...so I have not played current gen version OR the demo...

With that said:
Does this Madden's punted balls still have terrible physics and shoot through the endzone 95% of the time?
Do we see players coming on/off the field when packages change?
Do we see things like illegal subs?
Do we see real WR/DB and in the trench battles?

I could go on for a good while...

The game may be fun and an improvement but If the answer is still no to the above ?'s then please don't try and tell me this is as real as it gets and we see what we see on Sundays.

[Khanchus]

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Im loving this game, but the everyone I play against online just runs the ball all the time, I dont really have a problem with it but madden made it so easy to rush the ball like you almost always guarenteed 4-6yds if you are somewhat decent in madden......and some people even run the pistol with qbs such as matt schaub

[Big FN Deal]

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Madden has a LOT of things it can do better/"real"

To be fair I'm passing on M25 current gen and am heading staright to Next Gen...so I have not played current gen version OR the demo...

With that said:
Does this Madden's punted balls still have terrible physics and shoot through the endzone 95% of the time?
Do we see players coming on/off the field when packages change?
Do we see things like illegal subs?
Do we see real WR/DB and in the trench battles?

I could go on for a good while...

The game may be fun and an improvement but If the answer is still no to the above ?'s then please don't try and tell me this is as real as it gets and we see what we see on Sundays.

This exactly, there is an overwhelmingly long list of things Madden doesn't even attempt to do well, much less advancing them in the year 2013, yet it's "fun", which is all that supposedly matters in a video game. That's what the entire defense or bar for football gaming has been lowered to, the representation of the NFL, outside of graphics, is trivial, all that matters for a video game is how much fun it is. Fun first, football second, if it's football but it ain't fun, then it has no place in a football video game. It's disappointing that anyone actually embraces that perspective and even worse that I have supported it by buying Madden this entire gen.

[DarkFudge]

Quite Simply....this game peaked with Madden 10.

Solid looking and feeling game play engine that could have been built on

This infinity engine offers such little variety and deviation from the same ole' repetitive results, that it just isnt worth the tradeoff of those hollow, wacky ragdoll interactions that do nothing but annoy me as I watch some twisted unnatural messes transpire every other play

The infinity engine does not bring true organic and dynamic gameplay to the table, it just makes a few limbs bend differently in unnatural fashions....Im sick of it