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  • zethisis
    Rookie
    • Sep 2010
    • 40

    #1

    Recruiting difficulties among positions

    Have you noticed that recruiting Offensive lineman/Corner backs is such a challenge.

    Those two positions seem to have the most competition going after it. You have at least 4-5 schools heavily after any offensive lineman over a 4-star.

    Then the 3* Gems are even worse. It's such a challenge to get the best Offensive lineman every season.

    Wide Recievers...if you want a 5 star or a couple of 4 stars a year. They always tend to be available. I tend to merge Athletes and QB's together because some teams prefer to recruit athletes instead of QB's I've noticed.
  • hazey
    Pro
    • Mar 2008
    • 723

    #2
    Re: Recruiting difficulties among positions

    Don't even waste my time with oline.

    Either go after the highly ranked ones who are immediately interested in me, or else settle for 2 or 3 star linemen that nobody is recruiting halfway through the year, redshirt their first year when they are a 68-73, and by the time they are Juniors they are 83+ and more than capable.

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    • Riderfan
      Rookie
      • Jul 2011
      • 24

      #3
      Re: Recruiting difficulties among positions

      Originally posted by zethisis
      Have you noticed that recruiting Offensive lineman/Corner backs is such a challenge.
      Here's how I deal with the problem...
      First, realize that those positions do get a lot of competition. Focus on players who are a good fit for your school. If you have a 68 who is a good fit or a 74 who has a D in one of his primary preferences... Go with the 68. Any time on the 74 will be wasted.
      Second, look for Athletes. Any athlete weighing 270+ but with a D tackle skill and a D catching is probably an offensive lineman. Any athlete with A/B speed/acceleration, B/C tackle/man cover/zone cover is probably a cornerback. Throw a bunch on your board and scout them. Quite often I find a 75+ gem, and can sneak him because the computer is hesitant to spend too much time on athletes. The greatest cornerback I ever found (who wound up as a 99 and was drafted first round into the NFL) was actually a 71 athlete who, after scouting, was a +10 gem, 81 who was also an 80 WR. I needed CB more than WR so that's where he went. The man was not only a shutdown corner, but turned into an INT machine.

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      • jello1717
        All Star
        • Feb 2006
        • 5721

        #4
        Re: Recruiting difficulties among positions

        I've never noticed any difficulty in signing O-linemen so I went back and looked at the recruits I've signed through 5 recruiting classes. It doesn't look like I've had trouble signing them except for 1 year where I signed 8 of the bastards.

        POS-PRESTIGE-OVR
        2013 (average recruit OVR grade for entire class = 75.2)
        C-3-79
        G-4-75

        2014 (75.4)
        T-4-76
        G-3-75

        2015 (76.6)
        T-4-74
        C-3-78

        2016 (73.6)
        T-5-81
        G-4-76
        C-4-72
        T-3-74
        T-3-69
        T-3-74
        T-3-69
        G-2-70

        2017 (77.7)
        NONE (Clearly I should've ignored some from 2016 and carried them over to 2017)

        2018 (only thru week 5)
        G-3-75
        T-4-79
        C-4-78

        EDIT:
        I just looked at my CBs and the worst one I've signed (out of 7) was a 72 OVR and he's the only one below 75.
        Last edited by jello1717; 08-26-2013, 10:25 AM.
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        • EricFreakingBerry
          Rookie
          • Jul 2010
          • 382

          #5
          Re: Recruiting difficulties among positions

          TE's are the bane of my recruiting.

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          • zethisis
            Rookie
            • Sep 2010
            • 40

            #6
            Re: Recruiting difficulties among positions

            TE have been a challenge to get as well in my experience.

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            • BadAssHskr
              XSX
              • Jun 2003
              • 3541

              #7
              Re: Recruiting difficulties among positions

              I cant get a FB, i have 3 pistol formation in my O, that is the only reason i need one. Its become haunting for me.
              "Not the victory but the action. Not the goal but the game. In the deed the glory."

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              • BA2929
                The Designated Hitter
                • Jul 2008
                • 3342

                #8
                Re: Recruiting difficulties among positions

                I have more issues with TE and FB than anything else. TE is especially hard this year, at least for me.
                "Baseball is the coolest sport because, at any moment, the catcher can stop the game and go tell the pitcher a secret" - Rob Fee

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                • Redbird
                  Go Hogs
                  • Oct 2002
                  • 838

                  #9
                  Re: Recruiting difficulties among positions

                  TE and FB are hard to find especially one that can block well
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                  • Dasher
                    Rookie
                    • Jul 2013
                    • 26

                    #10
                    Re: Recruiting difficulties among positions

                    Cs and MLBs are my tough spots. I used to struggle w/FS also but now I just stuff ATHs there and roll on. I've resorted to signing either extra SS or OLB to reposition as MLB and extra Gs for my C.

                    It also seems like any time a C is interested in my school when I scout him he turns out to be a super bust. Example, the #1 C had me as #1 then I scouted him...-14 which took him from a 77 to a 63.

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                    • Timeetyo
                      Rookie
                      • Aug 2002
                      • 418

                      #11
                      Re: Recruiting difficulties among positions

                      I have definately noticed this issue through ~15 seasons across a few dynasties. It seems there is an abundance of QBs, RBs, WR, and Safeties. The trend here is that ALL of these positions can be picked up easily via Athletes which tend to be undervalued by the CPU. Good CB's are also available easily via athletes but i've found the number of CBs (listed as CBs) seem evenly balanced.

                      DE, LB, K, P seem to be ok.

                      OL, TE, and FB are often a challenge especially if you are recruiting for a particular style and not just viewing OVR.

                      Another thing I will note about the OL & TE situation - I think the issue isn't the number of players, but the distribution of them (OVR & * rating). As a top tier team, I had no problem signing the ~2 OL I needed each year (all high 70s). As a lower team, I had no issues signing good 3* OL each year (~high 60s). The problem is when you are in the middle. You can't compete with the big boys for the very few select top prospects...and there is a gap in talent before you get to the abundance of 65-70 OVR prospects. Usually when my team is in this part of my rebuilding process i just cherry pick a few 70s (that i can get easily) and dont bother with the big time OL until the rest of my team is stacked.
                      Timeetyo

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                      • Timeetyo
                        Rookie
                        • Aug 2002
                        • 418

                        #12
                        Re: Recruiting difficulties among positions

                        Now I know this can be filed under wishful thinking - but what I really wish we would have is a dynamic system where the number and distribution of recruits varies by year. As it is now I can guestimate how many top / mid / filler players there are in any given class. Sure, there are a suprise player or 2, but I always approach each class the same. If they had for example a year that was loaded at RB - but low on QBs....or a top heavy WR class with a handfull of studs....then a big dropoff to mediocre recruits. This would force us to recruit more creatively and help keep the interest longer.
                        Timeetyo

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                        • WNWoody
                          Just started!
                          • Aug 2013
                          • 5

                          #13
                          Re: Recruiting difficulties among positions

                          I usually have trouble with FBs and TEs, especially when I really need them. When I don't need them, they make themselves available.

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