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  • WickedFastball
    Banned
    • Feb 2013
    • 330

    #1

    Offseason Disappointment

    Ok, I started my offline dynasty on the 27th...knowing full well that Madden needs at the very least one patch before its playable...but thats not where im going with this.

    1) I actually really like this game!!! It feels "good", yes it IS current gen, and yes there IS so much room for improvement, but for the last CG Madden the game play was decent, compared to other madden games.

    2) In the first offseason I let Jay Cutler go, he was a 90 in my dynasty, and to be honest IRL I probably wouldn't have, but it was time for my Bears to move on.

    3) The Raiders picked him up in free agency, 3 years, somewhere around 40 million. Pretty obvious they are looking at him as their starting QB going into the next season right?

    4) I imported the 2014 draft class with real names, and spent a considerable amount of time scouting everyone projected in the first round. Although, my intent was to trade down or even out of the first round and acquire future picks. So, who picked who, was more of an observation than a competition to me.

    5) And now for my real problem, with the Second Overall Pick in the 2014 NFL Draft the Oakland Raiders pick.......Casey Pachall QB from TCU!.........WTF?!?

    So they spend $40+M on a 90 overall QB in the offseason, only to turn around and use their second overall pick on a QB?
    Honestly, im not going to blame EA, im going to blame the fact that the XBOX 360 is almost a decade old figuring in development time, so you cant scream at EA for some things that the box itself just cannot compute.

    But here is my point, in November I will be buying the new systems, I WILL be buying Madden, and I WILL be looking very close. They will no longer have excuses for this stuff, even they have admitted that the new systems are going to allow them to do things that they want to do now, but can't. If the gameplay is MUCH improved, and the AI "Brain" in MUCH improved, if I can walk away from a game or a season, and say "any of that very well could have happened IRL, if I don't have to look at stats and think "WTF?", if in the Super Bowl, they don't award the TROPHY TO THE LOSING TEAM. Then I will keep purchasing Madden every year. If not, than IM done.

    All I can say is that, I am grateful the new system is only a few more months away, because this is the LAST CG Madden I will ever purchase, its just lucky for them 4gen is coming LOL.
  • d11king
    MVP
    • Feb 2011
    • 2716

    #2
    Re: Offseason Disappointment

    I'm not attacking you, but it somewhat baffles me that there are still people out there who believe Madden is going to be sooooo much better than it is now just because it is going to be on the new system. It's still the same development team, still the same art team designing these stadiums, still Donny Moore (whatever he does) and still everyone else involved. I have no high expectations for next-gen, there will most likely be glitches just as bad, your scenario will probably still be taking place, AI will probably play with an IQ of 65, and everything you've seen these past few years will still be happening. Why? Because its the same team... I'm not trying to bash EA Sports, I'm just trying to keep it real. Have low expectations when it comes to next-gen, that way, when the meet those low expectations, you're mentally prepared. If they exceed those expectations, you'll be in such a good mood you're going to throw a Madden tournament on a kickback at your house. High expectations and they fail; well you know what'll happen.

    Just put it this way, when the LA Clippers moved from the Sports Arena to Staples Center, no one thought all of a sudden they Clippers would be competing for the playoffs because of their new building... the fact of the matter is, the team still sucked.

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    • WickedFastball
      Banned
      • Feb 2013
      • 330

      #3
      Re: Offseason Disappointment

      Well, I guess that is what i'm trying to say.
      I am giving them the benefit of the doubt, on this generation.
      In stead of being bitter, I am saying, "OK guys, prove that it is the SYSTEMS FAULT!, prove that YOU can create a great football game, your excuse is gone now, make next gen great." Thats what I am saying, "No more excuses" "put up or shut up". If Madden 25 on PS4 doesn't blow my hair back with its logic and game play, I wont spend another dollar on Madden until they have competition. I am going to be optimistic, until they prove to me that it is not the inability of the current system, and is in fact, their own inability, to create a football game, that meats the standards of the year 2013. For crying out loud, my phone (S4) is 20X smarter than Madden Football!
      But that is why I am taking a breath and saying "NOVEMBER or bust".

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      • InChipWeTrust8600
        Rookie
        • Sep 2013
        • 95

        #4
        Re: Offseason Disappointment

        If that's the biggest issue you have with madden u have had a great game experience haha


        The first madden on a new system is always, ehhh

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        • Ian Iachimoe
          Rookie
          • Oct 2012
          • 161

          #5
          Re: Offseason Disappointment

          Originally posted by InChipWeTrust8600
          If that's the biggest issue you have with madden u have had a great game experience haha


          The first madden on a new system is always, ehhh
          agreed. not sure how it will be with the new systems, but IMO, the first year or so of games on a new system are always disappointing minus the visual 'wow' factor.

          wouldn't be shocked if franchise for 360 is deeper than the next gen.

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          • purplerat
            Rookie
            • Oct 2012
            • 317

            #6
            Re: Offseason Disappointment

            A team signing a QB for 3 years and $40 million then drafting a QB in the same offseason isn't that far from the realm of possibilities. Last year the Seahawks signed Matt Flynn to a 3 year/$20 million dollar deal then drafted Russel Wilson in the 3rd round. In that same draft the Redskins took Kirk Cousins in the 4th round after using the 2nd overall pick on RG3, a pick that they gave up a lot to get plus meant a lot of guaranteed money.

            Not perfect analogies because in those cases teams were taking a chance on 2 unproven guys and paying at least one of them significant money. But I'm sure if you look back over recent years you'll find examples of teams signing a proven guy for now then drafting a guy to take over in a couple of years.

            I honestly have no clue if the game actually uses such logic or it just randomly happened that way, but if that's the most disappointing this about the offseason then I would be quite satisfied.

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            • JayD
              All Star
              • Mar 2004
              • 5457

              #7
              Re: Offseason Disappointment

              I don't see a problem here. Cutlet is the QB of now and their draft pick is the QB of the future. By the time Cutlers contract is up their rookie QB will be developed and probably their franchise QB. The Packers had Brett Favre and they drafted Rodgers as their future QB once Favre retires.
              Last edited by JayD; 09-04-2013, 01:28 PM.

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              • JayInSaratoga
                Rookie
                • Aug 2009
                • 233

                #8
                Re: Offseason Disappointment

                Sounds like a classic Raider personnel move. I don't see the problem.

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                • Flex Gunmetal
                  Rookie
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 40

                  #9
                  Re: Offseason Disappointment

                  OP why are blaming the hardware for software coding issues? It's certainly EAs fault, and you finna be disappointed with lofty expectations for next gen.

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                  • ajk49er
                    Pro
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 715

                    #10
                    Re: Offseason Disappointment

                    Im happy with a lot of trades that happen, they actually make sense

                    I just blame the ratings honestly. Donny doesn't work with the people who are putting schemes in, so how does that even make sense?

                    Demarco Murray gets dealt from dallas in my CFM to the bengals who needed a HB. great. the compensation was TOTALLY fair. so I thought, OK, lets go look to see why 82 overall in their scheme(or mine really since the cpu seems to go off the overall I see, and not what they should be seeing) and who is their starting HB? an 82 overall...OK....but that 82 is Justin forsett.

                    is Justin forsett=to Demarco Murray? no. heck no. and this is the problem with the ratings and the schemes. IMO, they are the real issue in a lot of our problems.
                    360-Chiefs-)

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                    • WickedFastball
                      Banned
                      • Feb 2013
                      • 330

                      #11
                      Re: Offseason Disappointment

                      Originally posted by JayD
                      I don't see a problem here. Cutlet is the QB of now and their draft pick is the QB of the future. By the time Cutlers contract is up their rookie QB will be developed and probably their franchise QB. The Packers had Brett Favre and they drafted Rodgers as their future QB once Favre retires.
                      Ask anyone, the 1st round of the draft is NOT for projects. It is for instantly upgrading a position in need. The Green Bay situation was an exception NOT the rule.
                      And to mute your point even further, Cutler's contract was for 3 years, a rookie contract is for 4 years. Giving them 1 year (three years down the road)to decide if they now want to resign their pick to a top dollar deal, or (usually the case in Oakland) watch him leave as a free agent.
                      Mean while they could have picked that awesome Left Tackle having a fabulous career, in Arizona, but instead chose to use the second overall pick on a backup QB.

                      What I don't understand is how you Don't have a problem with it.

                      And just one more thing, you are right, back up QB's Do progress SO WELL in Madden, or the real NFL for that matter.... oh wait, no they don't.

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                      • WickedFastball
                        Banned
                        • Feb 2013
                        • 330

                        #12
                        Re: Offseason Disappointment

                        Originally posted by purplerat
                        A team signing a QB for 3 years and $40 million then drafting a QB in the same offseason isn't that far from the realm of possibilities. Last year the Seahawks signed Matt Flynn to a 3 year/$20 million dollar deal then drafted Russel Wilson in the 3rd round. In that same draft the Redskins took Kirk Cousins in the 4th round after using the 2nd overall pick on RG3, a pick that they gave up a lot to get plus meant a lot of guaranteed money.

                        Not perfect analogies because in those cases teams were taking a chance on 2 unproven guys and paying at least one of them significant money. But I'm sure if you look back over recent years you'll find examples of teams signing a proven guy for now then drafting a guy to take over in a couple of years.

                        I honestly have no clue if the game actually uses such logic or it just randomly happened that way, but if that's the most disappointing this about the offseason then I would be quite satisfied.
                        I agree with what you are saying except for one thing. I was the 2nd OVERALL PICK! Not the 3rd round. Sure especially when you have no depth what so ever in a position, you will see teams take more that one person in the same position in the draft, happens every year.
                        But as far as I know, I've never seen a team land a BIG free agent, then turn around and use a TOP FIVE pick on the same position. 3rd round? Sure! 2nd overall pick? I've never seen it happen.
                        Because it SHOULDN'T HAPPEN!

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                        • JayD
                          All Star
                          • Mar 2004
                          • 5457

                          #13
                          Re: Offseason Disappointment

                          I believe I misread the first post saying that they drafted him in the second round. Regardless it still doesn't upset me.

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                          • LSX
                            Rookie
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 233

                            #14
                            Re: Offseason Disappointment

                            If the Raiders (or any bad team) signs Cutler next offseason, they will not draft a QB 2nd overall unless they are stacked across the board with no holes to fill. Try to justify it all you want; you're in denial if you think this is even halfway logical. This is just another case of poor roster management by the terrible CPU AI.

                            As far as next gen systems "allowing" them to improve on stuff like this, well I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but the current gen hardware limitations have absolutely nothing to do with it. Gameplay and graphics might be limited, but that has nothing to do with the coding for AI logic.

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                            • MattUM
                              MVP
                              • Aug 2013
                              • 1051

                              #15
                              Re: Offseason Disappointment

                              It's the Raiders...
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