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  • kerosene31
    Some say he...
    • Dec 2004
    • 1898

    #121
    Re: NHL 14 Available Now for Season Ticket Subscribers, Post Your Impressions

    I bought the game and played two quick games, one play now, one be a pro. All star, sim settings.

    Quick comments:
    -CPU AI seems a little better at not letting you skate around... but
    -Still too much "hot dog" hockey. You can just dance around with the puck with players who are agile
    -The changes to defense are TERRIBLE. We desperately need separate offline and online sliders. The poke check is 99% useless now, and that's a shame
    -Hitting is fun
    -Fighting is fun (but I echo the same complain others have about too many and the wrong kind of players)

    Saw some cool things:
    -I was driving the net and got cut off and ridden into the net and knocked it off. Don't remember that from last year.
    -Kessel on the Leafs tried some deke off his skate (or just fumbled the puck? but I think he tried a deke) and lost it. Later on he tried a spin move. Nice to see a skill player trying stuff that I didn't see others really trying.

    Defense:
    -As I mentioned before, the defense is terrible now. How do you stop the CPU? Poke check is useless, even if your stick is right next to the puck and the other player's stick. It isn't even worth hitting the button. I'm hoping this can be tweaked with tuners or sliders. How do you play D now? I've been a d-man for years and I'm lost. You end up having to be super aggressive which isn't realistic. Trying to pinch off an agile skater is asking for trouble. A few others have mentioned it. The CPU dangles the puck in front of you then shoots it right through you.

    Seriously, what adjustments are people playing D making?

    -Shot blocking seems overly difficult for human players. The CPU can do it, but the puck sails right through me. Hopefully something that can be tweaked with sliders.

    Be a pro mode (or whatever it is called now)
    -Overall the AI seems better. Teammates are more useful. I am a playmaking center and it feels better. I threw a nice pass to a guy open in the slot and he fired it on net.
    -Hitting makes BAP 1000% times better. Last year BAP was awful because you couldn't hit anyone.

    AI
    -The AI still has a long way to go, but I do see improvements. The CPU seems better at backing each other up in the defensive zone. Forwards help out a d-man who is in trouble. The teammate AI seems a little better in the same regard. They also seem a little better at positioning and reading the play, not just skating to a spot on the ice. It is far from revolutionary, but it isn't nearly as sloppy as NHL13.

    Overall:
    -I need the D to be fixed, either with sliders/tuners and/or different tactics. I wouldn't even touch this game online until they tweak it.
    If they can tweak the D I will say the game isn't bad. Not a huge jump from last year, but I see lots of little improvements.

    Did I mention hitting in BAP mode is fun? This got called a charge. Come on.....

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    • CanuckJ
      MVP
      • Jan 2005
      • 1001

      #122
      Re: NHL 14 Available Now for Season Ticket Subscribers, Post Your Impressions

      I got the game, hate the fact BIP doesnt work at all, hope this is patched soon, I lost 4-3 to flames in a shootout using out of the box settings playing with the canucks, I like the goal variety but I have to tweak the settings for sure, I like the game but agree defense has gotten worse this year at least in the game I saw, they seemed smarter in 13, more likely to adjust and start skating backwards in position quicker.

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      • kerosene31
        Some say he...
        • Dec 2004
        • 1898

        #123
        Re: NHL 14 Available Now for Season Ticket Subscribers, Post Your Impressions

        I maxed out the poke check slider and bumped puck control down a bit and the game is a lot better. On hardcore/sim the poke check was super low for some reason? Anyway, I think with some sliders this game can work.

        I was worried after my first game, but after tinkering with sliders it is improved. I still didn't see a shot block slider? Unless I missed it?

        I never like to touch sliders so early, but I'm not sure why the poke check was basically off by default? At least the sliders seem to make a huge difference, which is great.
        Go Sabres!

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        • Qb
          All Star
          • Mar 2003
          • 8797

          #124
          Re: NHL 14 Available Now for Season Ticket Subscribers, Post Your Impressions

          Originally posted by bad_philanthropy
          It's a novelty, but NHL 14 is definitely the best goon simulator ever. You can truly be the baddest man on the ice. I'm testing out an enforcer BAP and taking all sorts of liberties while barely being able skate, deke, and shoot. It's a joy when you pull off the injuring hit, and then injure the guy who steps up to fight. I'm a terrible person.
          I played about a quarter of a season as a tough guy in the OHL with NHL13, but it wasn't too fun due to the poor hitting & fighting. I haven't tried it yet, but I suspect it would be a lot more fun this year.

          Are there any enforcer specific tasks? Eg, "_____ is their star player. Get after him." I assume you get prompted to fight when your teammates get hit, but it'd be cool if the coach/team acknowledged your role. I don't remember much, if any, of that with 13.

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          • Money99
            Hall Of Fame
            • Sep 2002
            • 12695

            #125
            Re: NHL 14 Available Now for Season Ticket Subscribers, Post Your Impressions

            Picked the game up last night and got in 3 games; 2 NHL94 mode with my kids and 1 Play Now game.

            The NHL94 mode is what it is. My two young sons loved it and were causing all kinds of havoc, haha.
            They said they can't wait to play again tonight (which I think is the point of this mode; for younger kids and frat boys, lol).

            For the Play Now game, I'll preface my impressions with the fact that I haven't played this series a whole lot over the past 3 years. In fact, I'd bet I've played less than 40 games since NHL11 was released.
            I returned NHL12 within a week and only played the NHL13 demo.
            I think I was just burned out on the series.

            Now, it's only 1 game granted, but I really, really enjoyed that one game.
            I beat the Avalanche with the Islanders 5-2 and all of my goals were different; rebound, deflection, screen, snipe and empty netter.

            Playing on hardcore sim the game's speed is perfect IMO.
            The hitting is a touch overdone, but I didn't mind it at all.
            Skating engine is great. It reminds me a lot of NHL2K10. In that game, you really had to know your body position and adjust accordingly. In previous EA NHL games, even if your player was facing one direction, when you got the puck, you could turn in the opposite direction without losing any momentum, speed, and you could get your stick into a prime shooting position in a split second.
            Not anymore. If your guy is heading one way and you hit him with the pass, you have to adjust and work with the inertia of the players weight and speed.
            (Maybe that's been there for a while now, but like I said, I barely played NHL12 and 13).

            Puck physics have also really improved. The puck jumps and rolls a lot.
            Speaking of physics, I saw something really cool last night. After I steamrolled Tanguay, he was led off the ice because of a sprained knee.
            In the replay, it showed how his left leg turned in a grosse manor when his body collapsed on top of it, with his left skate stuck in the ice.
            The injury was spot on with how his leg reacted to the hit. Very cool.

            I was also pleased with the CPU AI. The Avs top player of the game was definitely Matt Duschesne. He was all over the ice making moves, setting up chances and breaking down my D with his speed.

            Fighting. I've heard it's a bit overdone and I saw some of that last night too.
            However, and I don't know if this was just coincidence, but the Avs didn't fight or challenge me once in the first two periods.
            But that changed in the third. Up 4-0, suddenly the Avs were challenging me anytime I laid out a big hit.
            I also one-punch KO'd Sarich. Not sure how that happened, as most fights ended after a series of blows. But it was cool to see.

            Overall I was really happy with what I saw last night. Yes, it was only one game, but I had a great time and can't wait to play it again tonight.

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            • GROGtheNailer
              Rookie
              • Jul 2002
              • 289

              #126
              Re: NHL 14 Available Now for Season Ticket Subscribers, Post Your Impressions

              Early with this game I am pretty worried about the defensive aspects. The tools/abilities/AI is largely slanted towards the offensive game. Playing defense is frustrating, way too many pucks going through defenders.
              *GROGtheNailer*

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              • DJ
                Hall Of Fame
                • Apr 2003
                • 17756

                #127
                Re: NHL 14 Available Now for Season Ticket Subscribers, Post Your Impressions

                Originally posted by Money99
                Picked the game up last night and got in 3 games; 2 NHL94 mode with my kids and 1 Play Now game.

                The NHL94 mode is what it is. My two young sons loved it and were causing all kinds of havoc, haha.
                They said they can't wait to play again tonight (which I think is the point of this mode; for younger kids and frat boys, lol).

                For the Play Now game, I'll preface my impressions with the fact that I haven't played this series a whole lot over the past 3 years. In fact, I'd bet I've played less than 40 games since NHL11 was released.
                I returned NHL12 within a week and only played the NHL13 demo.
                I think I was just burned out on the series.

                Now, it's only 1 game granted, but I really, really enjoyed that one game.
                I beat the Avalanche with the Islanders 5-2 and all of my goals were different; rebound, deflection, screen, snipe and empty netter.

                Playing on hardcore sim the game's speed is perfect IMO.
                The hitting is a touch overdone, but I didn't mind it at all.
                Skating engine is great. It reminds me a lot of NHL2K10. In that game, you really had to know your body position and adjust accordingly. In previous EA NHL games, even if your player was facing one direction, when you got the puck, you could turn in the opposite direction without losing any momentum, speed, and you could get your stick into a prime shooting position in a split second.
                Not anymore. If your guy is heading one way and you hit him with the pass, you have to adjust and work with the inertia of the players weight and speed.
                (Maybe that's been there for a while now, but like I said, I barely played NHL12 and 13).

                Puck physics have also really improved. The puck jumps and rolls a lot.
                Speaking of physics, I saw something really cool last night. After I steamrolled Tanguay, he was led off the ice because of a sprained knee.
                In the replay, it showed how his left leg turned in a grosse manor when his body collapsed on top of it, with his left skate stuck in the ice.
                The injury was spot on with how his leg reacted to the hit. Very cool.

                I was also pleased with the CPU AI. The Avs top player of the game was definitely Matt Duschesne. He was all over the ice making moves, setting up chances and breaking down my D with his speed.

                Fighting. I've heard it's a bit overdone and I saw some of that last night too.
                However, and I don't know if this was just coincidence, but the Avs didn't fight or challenge me once in the first two periods.
                But that changed in the third. Up 4-0, suddenly the Avs were challenging me anytime I laid out a big hit.
                I also one-punch KO'd Sarich. Not sure how that happened, as most fights ended after a series of blows. But it was cool to see.

                Overall I was really happy with what I saw last night. Yes, it was only one game, but I had a great time and can't wait to play it again tonight.
                Well this is encouraging to read, as I know you've had your issues with the NHL series, Money. Like you said, maybe part of it was burnout.

                Thanks for the impression. I'm still playing 13, only because I haven't had the time to go out and buy 14 yet. I hope to get my hands on it in the next couple of days.

                Are you guys all playing Superstar-Hardcore?
                Currently Playing:
                MLB The Show 25 (PS5)

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                • Money99
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Sep 2002
                  • 12695

                  #128
                  Re: NHL 14 Available Now for Season Ticket Subscribers, Post Your Impressions

                  Originally posted by DJ
                  Well this is encouraging to read, as I know you've had your issues with the NHL series, Money. Like you said, maybe part of it was burnout.

                  Thanks for the impression. I'm still playing 13, only because I haven't had the time to go out and buy 14 yet. I hope to get my hands on it in the next couple of days.

                  Are you guys all playing Superstar-Hardcore?
                  LOL! Not even close! I'm on PRO for crying out loud (don't judge me!).
                  Yes, I'm that bad at games these days, haha.
                  But I am playing on hardcore simulation mode.

                  I had a blast with the demo and even more fun with the retail version last night.
                  I plan on getting in more quality time tonight.

                  DJ, I really do think it was burnout.
                  The last 3 years I've added sports games I never, or barely played, into my rotation.
                  I've been playing basketball and baseball games a lot more.
                  So after 2 or 3 years off, when getting the latest b'ball, baseball or hockey game, the games feel a lot more fresh and you notice all those little changes a lot more - changes that I might not have appreciated if I had purchased the game on an annual basis.
                  I mean, just look at the NBA2K forums. That series is unbelievable, but some of the comments I've read there, you would think that 2K13 and 2K14 (which only has videos online) are terrible.
                  (I'm not judging, just look at some of my comments about the NHL series over the past 3+ years).

                  So I believe taking a break from all these games every 2 or 3 years has really helped appreciate and enjoy each game.

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                  • DJ
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Apr 2003
                    • 17756

                    #129
                    Re: NHL 14 Available Now for Season Ticket Subscribers, Post Your Impressions

                    Originally posted by Money99
                    LOL! Not even close! I'm on PRO for crying out loud (don't judge me!).
                    Yes, I'm that bad at games these days, haha.
                    But I am playing on hardcore simulation mode.

                    I had a blast with the demo and even more fun with the retail version last night.
                    I plan on getting in more quality time tonight.

                    DJ, I really do think it was burnout.
                    The last 3 years I've added sports games I never, or barely played, into my rotation.
                    I've been playing basketball and baseball games a lot more.
                    So after 2 or 3 years off, when getting the latest b'ball, baseball or hockey game, the games feel a lot more fresh and you notice all those little changes a lot more - changes that I might not have appreciated if I had purchased the game on an annual basis.
                    I mean, just look at the NBA2K forums. That series is unbelievable, but some of the comments I've read there, you would think that 2K13 and 2K14 (which only has videos online) are terrible.
                    (I'm not judging, just look at some of my comments about the NHL series over the past 3+ years).

                    So I believe taking a break from all these games every 2 or 3 years has really helped appreciate and enjoy each game.
                    Agreed. It's probably why I've enjoyed Madden 25 this year because I didn't play much of 11, 12 or 13. Conversely, The Show 13, while an amazing game, hasn't really drawn me in as much because I played 10, 11 and 12 for a full calendar year, so I'm a little burnt on baseball games.

                    FIFA Soccer on my Vita dominates my gaming time and I'm not a big soccer fan, but it's different and I am enjoying all the game immensely.
                    Currently Playing:
                    MLB The Show 25 (PS5)

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                    • bad_philanthropy
                      MVP
                      • Jul 2005
                      • 12167

                      #130
                      Re: NHL 14 Available Now for Season Ticket Subscribers, Post Your Impressions

                      I disagree about defense being too hard. It's pretty much the same as it has been for years. I play with the poke check slider at one because it's way too overpowered otherwise.

                      You really just can't be overly aggressive when defending. Contain your man until you get good, close, body position, and then you can use the poke check in the appropriate direction. The cpu is going to possess the puck, and the best way to defend them is a combination of knowing when to have good gap control. You can't just dispossess the cpu whenever you want. Sometimes defending and turning the puck over is about a sequence of good containment and attacking the puck carrier.

                      Another big key to poke checking and shot blocks is to make sure you aren't still accelerating while attempting them. It is way less effective if you are striding into your poke check or shot block.
                      Last edited by bad_philanthropy; 09-11-2013, 11:45 AM.

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                      • bad_philanthropy
                        MVP
                        • Jul 2005
                        • 12167

                        #131
                        Re: NHL 14 Available Now for Season Ticket Subscribers, Post Your Impressions

                        Originally posted by Qb
                        I played about a quarter of a season as a tough guy in the OHL with NHL13, but it wasn't too fun due to the poor hitting & fighting. I haven't tried it yet, but I suspect it would be a lot more fun this year.

                        Are there any enforcer specific tasks? Eg, "_____ is their star player. Get after him." I assume you get prompted to fight when your teammates get hit, but it'd be cool if the coach/team acknowledged your role. I don't remember much, if any, of that with 13.
                        Not really any enforcer specific things. But when we were down by a goal and I initiated a fight my stats went up, and I got praise from the coach for trying to spark something out there.

                        I have also had the coach instruct me to get a big hit on the forecheck.

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                        • Money99
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Sep 2002
                          • 12695

                          #132
                          Re: NHL 14 Available Now for Season Ticket Subscribers, Post Your Impressions

                          Originally posted by bad_philanthropy
                          Not really any enforcer specific things. But when we were down by a goal and I initiated a fight my stats went up, and I got praise from the coach for trying to spark something out there.

                          I have also had the coach instruct me to get a big hit on the forecheck.
                          How much TOI do you get as a goon? And what league is your BAP currently in?

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                          • bad_philanthropy
                            MVP
                            • Jul 2005
                            • 12167

                            #133
                            Re: NHL 14 Available Now for Season Ticket Subscribers, Post Your Impressions

                            Originally posted by Money99
                            How much TOI do you get as a goon? And what league is your BAP currently in?
                            Currently on the second line for Lake Erie getting about 10 mins because I'm usually in the box for at least 5 a game. If I don't fight I'll get ~13 minutes. 63 overall.

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                            • Steven547
                              MVP
                              • May 2004
                              • 3797

                              #134
                              Re: NHL 14 Available Now for Season Ticket Subscribers, Post Your Impressions

                              My quick impressions:

                              Well, I picked up NHL 13...err..I mean NHL 14. I had to do a double take when I walked out of Gamestop because even the cover, minus the 75 year old goalie, looked the same as last year.

                              Presentation:
                              What? Where? It's identical to last year. EA said they listened to the community? Who was the community, bunch of blind people? Nothing has changed. There is not group celebration after a goal....score in OT and get the same cutscene you had the past 3-4 years.

                              Commentary?
                              Oh where to start. Let's just say that I was playing against Washington as Chicago, and the commentators said, "That's why Nashville picked him up....." Wait...what? I'm playing as Chicago against Washington....

                              So I'm playing as Chicago again and the commentators mention winning the Cup in 2010 not 2013....also saying that the Chicago fans are like New York fans (or something like that). I heard that line I think in NHL 12! Update much EA? And the amount of mispronounced names in this game.......ugh! Well, at least we get 5 new songs to listen to...after all the BIP music doesn't work.

                              Presentation is VERY stale and needs a drastic change. To me, this is a sign of lazy developers. Fire away if you want, but when the presentation hasn't changed in years, you have to ask why.

                              Gameplay?
                              Not bad, but not where it should be and definitely don't know what EA meant when they said they listened to the community. This game is NHL 13 1/4....not even 1/2. What they've addressed gameplay wise, could have been done with a patch last year.
                              It's still "fun" but should never have been $60 for what was basically an "update".

                              NHL 94 anniversary mode?
                              IMO, waste of effort. It's basically a different rink with all rules turned off (something we can do ourselves.) If they wanted to bring in a cool new "Game mode", they should have included Mutant League Hockey (for those that remember) as an added bonus instead of NHL 94 Anniversary mode (when did we even start having an anniversary for NHL 94??)

                              Overall, it's good but not worth the $60. If you can, hold off until it's used or drops in price. I still haven't seen anything in this game that has made me say "WOW!" Again, just my opinion.

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                              • Dolphins88
                                Rookie
                                • Aug 2013
                                • 186

                                #135
                                Re: NHL 14 Available Now for Season Ticket Subscribers, Post Your Impressions

                                As far as 94 mode they should have the actual genesis game with updated rosters and stats for nostalgia rather than game now w blue ice and no rules. I thought that's what it was at first which would of been great but this is a waste of space.
                                Last edited by Dolphins88; 09-11-2013, 06:59 PM. Reason: Forgot sonething

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