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  • Dogslax41
    MVP
    • Aug 2003
    • 1901

    #91
    Re: PES 2014 Demo Available Now For 360, PS3 - Post Your Impressions

    I forgot how much I disliked playing an unmodded PES. That being said this does certainly feel like they are moving back toward their roots with heavy slow strategic play.

    Have to echo the other comments on here about the keepers. Keepers and lack of fouls were really the only problems that I saw in the demo.

    Dribbling is fantastic this year. When you execute a move it actually feels like you beat the defender rather than in past years where it just seemed like the defender happend to miss the tackle as you went by.

    Momentum and ball control/passing penalties is also very well done and improved over what even last year was programmed very well. Last year still had a bit too many animations where you could pass agianst your momentum with accuracy. This year passing against momentum is penalized moch more.

    Going to be very tough to go back to my master league in 13 for the next week and a half.

    Very excited to see how this shapes up when modded.

    GTA V and PES one week apart is simply not fair. Then add PS4 FIFA and Football Manager with a couple months and its almost criminal.

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    • Krebstar
      is looking at stats.
      • May 2005
      • 12907

      #92
      Re: PES 2014 Demo Available Now For 360, PS3 - Post Your Impressions

      A day one patch is good news.

      Hoping they can address fouls in some way.

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      • bakan723
        Banned
        • Aug 2010
        • 1543

        #93
        Re: PES 2014 Demo Available Now For 360, PS3 - Post Your Impressions

        There hasn't been a somewhat realistic amount of fouls since PES5/WE9.

        But then you had all these idiots complaining to Konami about there being too many fouls back then. Meanwhile if you didn't always charge in foolishly on challenges and played like a normal person it was fine.

        Konami always changes things that worked well. If you can take different aspects from different PES/WE games and make one game from it, you'd be set. But Konami needs to keep selling new games though....Maybe they're doing this all on purpose ?
        Last edited by bakan723; 09-11-2013, 02:52 PM.

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        • steveeee
          Banned
          • Dec 2003
          • 843

          #94
          Re: PES 2014 Demo Available Now For 360, PS3 - Post Your Impressions

          5) I think the biggest gripe I had was the lack of a full tutorial to explain all the new moves, etc. I kept trying to do feints from last years game and apparently the controls are entirely different. Not a bad thing, it's just hard to fully judge the game without seeing some of the advanced dribble tactics in action. I kept finding space on the wings and then getting the ball swiped when I failed to juke my man in any way.
          this might help some

          <iframe width="420" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/GMIp6IRj4-0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

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          • LingeringRegime
            Hall Of Fame
            • Jun 2007
            • 17089

            #95
            Re: PES 2014 Demo Available Now For 360, PS3 - Post Your Impressions

            My favorite camera angle so far is 586. Good blend between zoom and wide angle.

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            • 4EverBlowingBubbles
              Rookie
              • Jan 2013
              • 192

              #96
              Re: PES 2014 Demo Available Now For 360, PS3 - Post Your Impressions

              Has anybody been able to score a header from a cross? My strikers still won't jump. Is it about timing? Which button should I press?

              ..::: I'm West Ham Till I Die :::..

              MIGHTY HAMMERS 3 - 0 SPURS

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              • LingeringRegime
                Hall Of Fame
                • Jun 2007
                • 17089

                #97
                Re: PES 2014 Demo Available Now For 360, PS3 - Post Your Impressions

                Originally posted by 4EverBlowingBubbles
                Has anybody been able to score a header from a cross? My strikers still won't jump. Is it about timing? Which button should I press?
                It used to be square and you have to time the press as the ball reaches the players head.

                So far I haven't been able to score from a header.

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                • Krebstar
                  is looking at stats.
                  • May 2005
                  • 12907

                  #98
                  Re: PES 2014 Demo Available Now For 360, PS3 - Post Your Impressions

                  Originally posted by steveeee
                  Edit Mode
                  There will be unlimited slots available for emblems, 3rd and 4th are also kits available
                  Ability to import logos to shirt sleeves, shorts and socks
                  This right here has me so excited.

                  Now I just want to know how many team slots we have.

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                  • dubcity
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • May 2012
                    • 17878

                    #99
                    Re: PES 2014 Demo Available Now For 360, PS3 - Post Your Impressions

                    After further analysis, maybe fouls aren't as bad as I originally thought. I've been able to get fouled a few times by knocking the ball straight ahead as a defender closes down. There still seems to be an issue with the refs calling fouls when my player gets grabbed after he stops, turns and kicks the ball into space, though. If those would get called, I would be okay with fouls overall. The impact engine seems to be allowing for plenty of bad tackles, unlike FIFA, so I have some hope.

                    edit: wow, I just noticed that more people are viewing the PES forum than the FIFA forum. I've never seen that before.
                    Last edited by dubcity; 09-11-2013, 05:32 PM.

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                    • rckabillyRaider
                      MVP
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 4382

                      #100
                      Re: PES 2014 Demo Available Now For 360, PS3 - Post Your Impressions

                      Originally posted by Krebstar
                      This right here has me so excited.

                      Now I just want to know how many team slots we have.
                      If I recall correctly, they announced 3 top division fake leagues and one d2 league.

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                      • RoyceDa59
                        Chillin
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 3830

                        #101
                        Re: PES 2014 Demo Available Now For 360, PS3 - Post Your Impressions

                        Originally posted by rckabillyRaider
                        If I recall correctly, they announced 3 top division fake leagues and one d2 league.
                        Does that include the already fake ones added like English League and the Portuguese League? Would love to see someone add a Russian league, Ukraine league or MLS. Of course the Bundesliga would have to be a given.

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                        • dubcity
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • May 2012
                          • 17878

                          #102
                          Re: PES 2014 Demo Available Now For 360, PS3 - Post Your Impressions

                          Okay, after playing about 40-50 matches, here's what I think:

                          This could be the soccer game that we've been waiting for. I've finally figured out the controls, and this is key. After whining about possession stats for so long, I've finally figured it out. I just played about 10 matches in a row as England vs France, attempting to play in a conservative, "safety first" underdog type of style. Playing for the draw, or whatever you want to call it. Each time I ended with 40% or less possession.

                          And I wasn't playing sloppy or just giving the ball away. I was playing realistically. Kicking the ball to midfield every time my keeper had the ball, clearing it away in from my own 1/3 instead of being stupid and attempting short passes, and keeping the CPU at midfield as best I could using the jockey and tackle commands.

                          You can legitimately play to the style you want, and the game will fit it. If you want to play arcade style, you can do that and it will work. If you want to play a simulation style, you can do that too. I can't wait for the full game.

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                          • spartansocc12
                            Rookie
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 238

                            #103
                            Re: PES 2014 Demo Available Now For 360, PS3 - Post Your Impressions

                            Originally posted by dubcity
                            Okay, after playing about 40-50 matches, here's what I think:

                            This could be the soccer game that we've been waiting for. I've finally figured out the controls, and this is key. After whining about possession stats for so long, I've finally figured it out. I just played about 10 matches in a row as England vs France, attempting to play in a conservative, "safety first" underdog type of style. Playing for the draw, or whatever you want to call it. Each time I ended with 40% or less possession.

                            And I wasn't playing sloppy or just giving the ball away. I was playing realistically. Kicking the ball to midfield every time my keeper had the ball, clearing it away in from my own 1/3 instead of being stupid and attempting short passes, and keeping the CPU at midfield as best I could using the jockey and tackle commands.

                            You can legitimately play to the style you want, and the game will fit it. If you want to play arcade style, you can do that and it will work. If you want to play a simulation style, you can do that too. I can't wait for the full game.

                            There has to be a reason for you to have to play conservatively when necessary and do the things you describe. If you want to play possession, the game needs to force you to be good at it where mistakes will be punished. Last year it felt as if I could easily hold possession while passing it around without any real plan or conviction just for the sake of holding possession especially in my own end. In the demo, when trying to play this way, eventually the CPU will force you into a compromising position and force errors that directly lead to clear scoring opportunities.

                            This is refreshing because now it makes sense to try to play long or direct balls up the field. These passes might not work all the time, but the risks of playing this way are much lower than trying to play possession.

                            The possession style in 2013 was so overpowering and easy to pull off on the hardest difficulty that it made little sense to play differently.

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                            • RoyceDa59
                              Chillin
                              • Aug 2003
                              • 3830

                              #104
                              Re: PES 2014 Demo Available Now For 360, PS3 - Post Your Impressions

                              Originally posted by dubcity
                              Okay, after playing about 40-50 matches, here's what I think:

                              This could be the soccer game that we've been waiting for. I've finally figured out the controls, and this is key. After whining about possession stats for so long, I've finally figured it out. I just played about 10 matches in a row as England vs France, attempting to play in a conservative, "safety first" underdog type of style. Playing for the draw, or whatever you want to call it. Each time I ended with 40% or less possession.

                              And I wasn't playing sloppy or just giving the ball away. I was playing realistically. Kicking the ball to midfield every time my keeper had the ball, clearing it away in from my own 1/3 instead of being stupid and attempting short passes, and keeping the CPU at midfield as best I could using the jockey and tackle commands.

                              You can legitimately play to the style you want, and the game will fit it. If you want to play arcade style, you can do that and it will work. If you want to play a simulation style, you can do that too. I can't wait for the full game.
                              It really takes plenty of matches to really see the game shine and really getting use to the controls. I just started getting the CPU to draw more fouls had drawn 3 in one match, one of them was a penalty. Speaking of penalties, they really have improved as well. I love the camera angle they use for it.

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                              • dubcity
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • May 2012
                                • 17878

                                #105
                                Re: PES 2014 Demo Available Now For 360, PS3 - Post Your Impressions

                                Originally posted by spartansocc12
                                The possession style in 2013 was so overpowering and easy to pull off on the hardest difficulty that it made little sense to play differently.
                                Yeah, I've been playing 2013 to compare the two with different styles of play, and it's just completely different. It was literally impossible for me to not keep the ball less than 45% of the time in 2013, and when I would play this defensive style of play the CPU would end up with an unrealistic number of scoring chances. Now I can actually have a shot against the CPU, even when they have 60%-70% possession, a la Celtic vs Barca.

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