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**spartansocc12** · 09-12-2013, 07:02 PM

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I've seen some fouling, but I haven't seen one where the defender jumps into a forward when a long ball is played in. That is such a common foul and seem like one that could definitely be incorporated given the physics and heading already in the game.

Some realistic fouls that I've seen occur when playing a low direct ball into my forward during a hold up play. The CPU will try to get in front of the forward or slide through the forward in order to win the ball, but instead the play results in a foul.

What is really awesome is how different games feel. There will be games where the CPU will be quite easy to pass around while other times it feels like the game is stuck in a midfield battle. As a result there are times where zero fouls, but others with 3 or 4.

**Krebstar** · 09-12-2013, 07:02 PM

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Originally posted by BrianU

Kreb are you going to be editing the team's playing style profiles like you did for FIFA? I'm digging this demo.

There is a chance.

**Krebstar** · 09-12-2013, 07:26 PM

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Originally posted by dubcity

Fouls are totally fine, BTW. I just drew 3 fouls in literally 1 minute. All by luring the defender in, then kicking the ball ahead and drawing contact. You could play 1,000 games of FIFA and maybe get fouled like that 1 time. In PES 2014 is just a matter of whether you want fouls to be a part of the game. If you want back-and-forth arcade action, then you can play it that way and you'll see 0 fouls. If you want to play realistically and attempt to foul and be fouled, you can do that too.

I'm still not drawing fouls at all. You're waiting till the defender approaches and then knocking on with R1?

**RoyceDa59** · 09-12-2013, 07:27 PM

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Originally posted by BrianU

How are the differences of playing style between teams? Kreb are you going to be editing the team's playing style profiles like you did for FIFA? I'm digging this demo.

I know I am not Kreb but I most certainly will, already been testing some of the formations and tactics in the demo and you reall can get teams to play differently in this game. I use to do a lot of formation editing on pesstatsdatabase. If Kreb does decide to do some this year, if time permits I wouldn't mind collaborating with him or any other people willing to help. Also can't wait to check out how the stats work as well.

**atc43** · 09-12-2013, 07:27 PM

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Ive gotta say this game feels like the real deal. Really loving it.

The weight to the players is very realistic and the ball physics I feel are spot on. People complaining about input lag are mistaken IMO. This isnt like before where you can come out of a turn and immediately turn back the other way and continue.

One area of work I hope they address is players/goalkeepers awareness on loose balls. had a few times where the goalies or defenders in the box wouldnt make a play on the ball and it resulted in a easy goal for the opposition.

I just really wish this type of realism was brought to Madden :/

Cant wait to download the OFs and get my league rolling.

Also guys just think, this is their first go at it with the Fox Engine on CURRENT GEN...Just think what PES15 will bring to the table

**RoyceDa59** · 09-12-2013, 07:41 PM

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Originally posted by Krebstar

I'm still not drawing fouls at all. You're waiting till the defender approaches and then knocking on with R1?

That is one way I draw fouls. Also holding up play with you back to player can allow you to draw some fouls. Really can't wait to get 15 to 20 min halves to see what this game can really do with the MASS system because the midfield battles are really amazing and tense in this game especially when playing Man Utd. vs Bayern match or Germany vs. Italy.

**dubcity** · 09-12-2013, 08:05 PM

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Originally posted by Krebstar

I'm still not drawing fouls at all. You're waiting till the defender approaches and then knocking on with R1?

I use the speed burst which is a double tap of the sprint button. It only really works when a defender is coming at you from an angle while you dribbling straight ahead. I'm still trying to figure out which is the best dribbling move to draw fouls from a stationary position. I wish kicking the ball away was a simple as it is in FIFA, with just the right stick.

**skillzlikewhoa12** · 09-12-2013, 08:21 PM

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Is anyone having trouble performing feints while dribbling?

I try to dribble with Ronaldo and Nani (two world class feinters) and they perform zero moves and keep getting dispossessed...

KG · 09-12-2013, 08:21 PM

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Originally posted by spartansocc12

I've seen some fouling, but I haven't seen one where the defender jumps into a forward when a long ball is played in. That is such a common foul and seem like one that could definitely be incorporated given the physics and heading already in the game.

Some realistic fouls that I've seen occur when playing a low direct ball into my forward during a hold up play. The CPU will try to get in front of the forward or slide through the forward in order to win the ball, but instead the play results in a foul.

What is really awesome is how different games feel. There will be games where the CPU will be quite easy to pass around while other times it feels like the game is stuck in a midfield battle. As a result there are times where zero fouls, but others with 3 or 4.

I beat the CPU as Spain using France where they had 64% of the possession. I couldn't get the ball off them as they were playing triangles all over the pitch. I managed to get Pique & Puyol on a 2-2 with Benzema & Ribery. Benzema dropped deep and attracted Pique. Hit a quick through ball ahead of Ribery as he held off Puyol and used his pace to get a 1-on-1 with Casillas. Iker parried the shot and it was put in by Benzema who got spun and got away from Pique.

I did a quick rematch and this time it was the opposite. I had the lions share of possession yet Spain beat me 1-0 on a Cesc goal. I managed to draw 2 fouls on Busquets who got wrong-footed and mistimed his tackle.

**dubcity** · 09-12-2013, 08:26 PM

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Originally posted by skillzlikewhoa12

Is anyone having trouble performing feints while dribbling?

I try to dribble with Ronaldo and Nani (two world class feinters) and they perform zero moves and keep getting dispossessed...

I haven't been able to figure those out either. I'm assuming the controls are different than last year, because I have no idea how to do running Matthews feints or any of stationary skills. They've been changing the controls yearly on some of this stuff.

**RoyceDa59** · 09-12-2013, 09:10 PM

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Mother of.... just got dominated by Spain while using Germany it ended 0-0 but they had 72% to my measly 28% that has never happened to me ever in a footy game. On a positive note I think I found the perfect tactic sliders for Spain. Played 4 matches against them using my slider adjustments and three out of four matches they held 60% or more of the possession, one match they only held 56%.

**Krebstar** · 09-12-2013, 09:11 PM

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Originally posted by RoyceDa59

Mother of.... just got dominated by Spain while using Germany it ended 0-0 but they had 72% to my measly 28% that has never happened to me ever in a footy game. On a positive note I think I found the perfect tactic sliders for Spain. Played 4 matches against them using my slider adjustments and three out of four matches they held 60% or more of the possession, one match they only held 56%.

I've missed something. How can you edit the AI tactics in the demo?

**steveeee** · 09-12-2013, 09:14 PM

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This is my first goal I scored playing on full manual controls .. I think I will stick with these controls for awhile

**RoyceDa59** · 09-12-2013, 09:17 PM

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Originally posted by Krebstar

I've missed something. How can you edit the AI tactics in the demo?

Easy, there are two ways to do it. One is to have a second controller have it be 2P and switch the tactics before the match starts. Second, is go to select sides before a match starts and switch to the CPU team and switch their tactics that way. Also deleting all the combination plays helps too. All teams in the demo have the same three combination plays, hopefully it isn't like that in the full game. I gave Spain two instead of three and switched one to Diagonal Run kept Hold Up play but moved it to the middle of the pitch.

**slthree** · 09-12-2013, 10:30 PM

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To draw fouls:

R2 for controlled dribble and do a simple step over or change direction or a dead stop, all while being closed down by a defender obviously

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