Player Development Trait working Backwards for me

[James2theZ]

This may vary well be addressed, but I am just seeing this.

22 yr old Trent Richardson has Superstar Development and gets 750 XP for 150 Rushing Yards
26 yr old LeGarrette Blount has Normal Development and gets 1,155 XP for 150 Rushing Yards

24 yr old Jimmy Graham with Superstar Development gets 134 XP for 10 Catches
26 yr old Ed Dickson with Normal Development gets 808 XP for 10 Catches

Can any1 else confirm this or know if this has been addressed??

[cordoroy]

Re: Player Development Trait working Backwards for me

I have the same problem

tyron smith (superstar) getting less points for milestones and weeklies than weems (normal)

also
Murray (superstar) getting less than Dunbar (slow) and Randle (normal)

so now all my superstars are handicapped, and all my JAGS are now my future starters.

[criscarter]

Re: Player Development Trait working Backwards for me

God damnit. I thought this was happening to me but hoped I was wrong.

[debauchlord]

Re: Player Development Trait working Backwards for me

This may vary well be addressed, but I am just seeing this.

22 yr old Trent Richardson has Superstar Development and gets 750 XP for 150 Rushing Yards
26 yr old LeGarrette Blount has Normal Development and gets 1,155 XP for 150 Rushing Yards

24 yr old Jimmy Graham with Superstar Development gets 134 XP for 10 Catches
26 yr old Ed Dickson with Normal Development gets 808 XP for 10 Catches

Can any1 else confirm this or know if this has been addressed??

There is a development trait that coaches can get which gives your guys more xp. The two superstars here have rookie coaches (Sean Payton not in the game) while the two shlubs have superbowl coaches. Look for that trait.

[nekolas]

Re: Player Development Trait working Backwards for me

As far as I have observed, development trait does no longer effect the goals XP (even if it says it does, this is just one of many non-fixed description errors in the game). As far as I can tell, the trait now only reduces prices of attribute packages

[cordoroy]

Re: Player Development Trait working Backwards for me

There is a development trait that coaches can get which gives your guys more xp. The two superstars here have rookie coaches (Sean Payton not in the game) while the two shlubs have superbowl coaches. Look for that trait.

all the guys I listed though are on the same team under Garret

I didn't check the price of stat upgrades for players. but cheaper stats combined with less xp doesn't really give a superstar any inherent advantage.

this was in an offline xbox CFM, can anyone see if they DON'T have this issue ? just to determine if it's just some cases or the same for all ?

[cammy3399]

Re: Player Development Trait working Backwards for me

No no no, this is because the players getting more XP have lower ratings than the guys getting the less XP thus, are projected to do more and need to achieve more to get more XP. Also it could that both those players arent listed as starters on their respective teams as well.

[cordoroy]

Re: Player Development Trait working Backwards for me

I still cant figure this out. I edit the ratings before entering a ccm so the normal and superstar player are the same rating, I can't find any place, milstones/weeklies/upgrade xp etc... where a superstar player has any advantage.

[nekolas]

Re: Player Development Trait working Backwards for me

I still cant figure this out. I edit the ratings before entering a ccm so the normal and superstar player are the same rating, I can't find any place, milstones/weeklies/upgrade xp etc... where a superstar player has any advantage.

I said it already.. the difference is in the cost of player rating packages. Go start a franchise, sim a season. Then find a player who ended up with 50,000 xp who has normal dev, write down the cost of a package, upgrade his dev, write down the cost of the same package as before, upgrade his dev again, write down the cost of the same package. Check out the difference. Question answered

[cordoroy]

Re: Player Development Trait working Backwards for me

ok I got you now

made a superstar/quick/normal/slow LT and compared a few numbers

all players were set to identical stats before starting the CCM

superstars get a 10% discount on stats
quicks get a 5%
slow has a -5% penalty

BUT

there is still inconsistencies in the milestones. for my LTs getting the OPOTW gets:
slow player 2800xp
normal 2600
quick 2600
superstar 2500

also the weeklies follow this trend too

'0 sack'/'5yd team rush AVG' weeklies
superstar 577xp/720xp
quick 622xp/840xp

I got the glitch where u can't see the numbers for the other 2 players but I assume it follows the same trend.

therefore superstars get cheaper stats but less XP.. these effects largely offset so there is no real advantage to superstars. Few are noticing because the 1k/2k for training is so ridiculous it's covering up the problem.

conclusion: development trait is largely worthless this year until this is fixed.

[nekolas]

Re: Player Development Trait working Backwards for me

Umh that is weird because I did my own research, as you might imagine, and you are right about the 5% per dev level, I got that same result. But in regards to goals, I saw no difference in my test LG (Carpenter) going from normal to quick, and only a marginal increase in the weekly goals going from quick to superstar, but never did he regress in XP gain

But actually your result may be a result of age? I think goals XP is affected now by OVR, age and the "importance of the game" (PO gives more than preseason)

[cordoroy]

Re: Player Development Trait working Backwards for me

it's not age as all my guys were under 24, and my superstar was Tyron smith the youngest of the bunch.

from your observations everything is working. and since there is very few other ppl noticing problems then It's probably isolated and not happening for everyone. This was on xbox offline cfm

it's distressing because if it isn't for everyone it likely won't get patched. and the development rating is kind of a big focus for franchise modes :-\

unless it's just labeling the incorrect value on the tooltip? I have some problems with the values not showing for some players too.

new maddens stress me the eff out

[nekolas]

Re: Player Development Trait working Backwards for me

unless it's just labeling the incorrect value on the tooltip? I have some problems with the values not showing for some players too.
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I am gonna be pissed off if this is the reason xD Because it would vastly change the importance of the dev trait to me, if it worked similarly to last year in regards to weekly XP goal increases. As of now though, it seems age and OVR plays a much bigger role, most young FA's I have signed who have OVR around 70 or below, all seem to gain 1200-1000-1000 in their weekly goals, and they are normal dev traits. While Richard Sherman, 24 age superstar, gains only about 200-200-300 or so, and Lynch, 27 quick dev, gains 30-30-30 or so.. really low

[ruttentud]

Re: Player Development Trait working Backwards for me

I am gonna be pissed off if this is the reason xD Because it would vastly change the importance of the dev trait to me, if it worked similarly to last year in regards to weekly XP goal increases. As of now though, it seems age and OVR plays a much bigger role, most young FA's I have signed who have OVR around 70 or below, all seem to gain 1200-1000-1000 in their weekly goals, and they are normal dev traits. While Richard Sherman, 24 age superstar, gains only about 200-200-300 or so, and Lynch, 27 quick dev, gains 30-30-30 or so.. really low

I've never noticed this, but I haven't paid attention. I'm using the hawks too and I looked through all the superstars on the team and didn't notice a big difference in goal XP, so I just haven't bothered buying it on anybody. It does make things cheaper though, and the backup MLB Powell is Slow, instead of the 375 cost to increase low ratings, it's 393, and that increase really starts adding up at higher levels.

[Moonlight_Swami]

Re: Player Development Trait working Backwards for me

This may vary well be addressed, but I am just seeing this.

22 yr old Trent Richardson has Superstar Development and gets 750 XP for 150 Rushing Yards
26 yr old LeGarrette Blount has Normal Development and gets 1,155 XP for 150 Rushing Yards

24 yr old Jimmy Graham with Superstar Development gets 134 XP for 10 Catches
26 yr old Ed Dickson with Normal Development gets 808 XP for 10 Catches

Can any1 else confirm this or know if this has been addressed??

From what I have seen, development does not effect how quickly you get XP, but how much each item costs aside from traits. That might be your problem.