NBA Live 14 Trailer - First Look (Screen Captures Included)

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Yeah I don't get that logic at all thinking that 2k is behind in the next gen tech. I'm betting 2k will have more gameplay footage of next gen compared to EA.

[Boilerbuzz]

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You made it sound like they've never worked on a basketball game before. Little experience? Did you read what I just posted? The principal people working on the game have lots of experience

I was PRETTY clear on what I meant and you posting 2 out of maybe 120 names, even if they are very influential names, doesn't dilute my point. Basically you're saying that Bill Belicheat can take the Oakland Raiders to the Super Bowl. Sean O'Brien might be solid, but he's not a designer, artists, engineer, or anywhere near the trenches where the game is brought home. And did you forget that they had NO team there for a year? Where do you think most of that staff came from? A witch's cauldron? But believe what you want. My point stands.

...combined with EA's already proven technology. And since they are ONLY working on next-gen they are definitely getting more experience on that platform than 2K can.

Proven where exactly? No one knows exactly what Ignite is! You're feeding into nothing but hype. The tech in Madden and FIFA is good, but buggy as all hell. But no one knows how that will translate to a basketball game. And making the assumption that VC isn't figuring out the gen8 consoles as fast as any other developer is ignorant. BTW, did you forget that Tiburon lost a few VERY experienced and good engineers a couple of years ago?

[DETERMINOLOGY]

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My opinion alot of people saying live is back due to the 7 sec clip and the graphics and i really would never ever say live is back due to they past. Same happen with nba live 10 everyone hyped up saying it was back and everything as soon as the game dropped it was a complete fail. Yes live is next-gen and all but i still have a strong feeling its going to be robotic and janky stiff body box movements with the arcade feel and my advice just dont say live is back untill you played the demo

[kel16harris]

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My opinion alot of people saying live is back due to the 7 sec clip and the graphics and i really would never ever say live is back due to they past. Same happen with nba live 10 everyone hyped up saying it was back and everything as soon as the game dropped it was a complete fail. Yes live is next-gen and all but i still have a strong feeling its going to be robotic and janky stiff body box movements with the arcade feel and my advice just dont say live is back untill you played the demo

Live 10 was a fail??

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[Sundown]

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You made it sound like they've never worked on a basketball game before. Little experience? Did you read what I just posted? The principal people working on the game have lots of experience combined with EA's already proven technology.

And since they are ONLY working on next-gen they are definitely getting more experience on that platform than 2K can.

2k has two teams, one of which is devoted to next gen.

They also have infinitely more experience working on basketball games.

It also looks like there's plenty of crossover for the guys on current gen whose work applies to both (such as gameplay and control), and there's almost no work being done on current gen in areas like graphics that would divert resources from next gen.

Working on a next gen platform doesn't magically make games better. And 2K having a good basketball game to build on moving to next gen is an infinitely greater advantage than whatever's gained from ignoring current gen while starting from scratch or from code of the failures that were Live/Elite 11-13.

It's good that Live has a basketball guy in charge, but the last time Live was any good, Mike Wang of 2K lead the project, so 2K has the advantage there too.

[DETERMINOLOGY]

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Live 10 was a fail??

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Yeap it sure was

[Jay Jay]

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2k has two teams, one of which is devoted to next gen.

They also have infinitely more experience working on basketball games.

It also looks like there's plenty of crossover for the guys on current gen whose work applies to both (such as gameplay and control), and there's almost no work being done on current gen in areas like graphics that would divert resources from next gen.

Working on a next gen platform doesn't magically make games better. And 2K having a good basketball game to build on moving to next gen is an infinitely greater advantage than whatever's gained from ignoring current gen while starting from scratch or from code of the failures that were Live/Elite 11-13.

It's good that Live has a basketball guy in charge, but the last time Live was any good, Mike Wang of 2K lead the project, so 2K has the advantage there too.

The biggest advantage over anything you said is money. Is it 2 teams splitted up of the team they all ready had? If so thats not a advantage. EA has a team working on the ignite engine alone and a whole team working only on nextgen. Only thing 2k has a advantage on is they had a better game period.

[Jay Jay]

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My opinion alot of people saying live is back due to the 7 sec clip and the graphics and i really would never ever say live is back due to they past. Same happen with nba live 10 everyone hyped up saying it was back and everything as soon as the game dropped it was a complete fail. Yes live is next-gen and all but i still have a strong feeling its going to be robotic and janky stiff body box movements with the arcade feel and my advice just dont say live is back untill you played the demo

If we base anything off of the past then I guess its safe to say 2k nextgen will be a port.

[King_B_Mack]

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The biggest advantage over anything you said is money.

Not sure I'm following you on that. EA's biggest advantage is money? How's that different from any other year?

[LingeringRegime]

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I love this thread.

Everyone is so feisty.

I hope that EA will show something good this week. I am looking for a reason to switch.

[Sundown]

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The biggest advantage over anything you said is money. Is it 2 teams splitted up of the team they all ready had? If so thats not a advantage. EA has a team working on the ignite engine alone and a whole team working only on nextgen. Only thing 2k has a advantage on is they had a better game period.

I explained why splitting into two teams doesn't hurt 2K. Much of the current gen stuff can be folded into the other game or vice versa.

Money and tech by itself doesn't solve problems. Experience, vision, and talent do, and 2K has that in spades. 2K has the better game because it's developers have been the better developers with the better vision under the better leadership-- proven developers that have a great code base who can execute.

That is the biggest advantage of all.

From the latest screenshots and videos, it also looks like 2K has the better artists as far as player models go as well.

This might or might not all shift years down the line but thinking Live has any developmental advantage other than being able to leverage Ignite is wishful EA fanboy thinking or a misunderstanding of how game and software development works.

[Big FN Deal]

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When I was younger, whenever I would talk to a female for the first time, one of my earliest questions was always "so what's wrong with you?", lol. Meaning, nobody is perfect, so let's start by putting our flaws out on the table and help set some realistic expectations about us dealing with each other.

Likewise for all these people that are so wide eyed optimistic about NBA Live 14, you might want to take a minute to consider the game will surely have flaws and growing pains. EA hasn't released a NBA basketball game since 2009 yet some people are acting like that's completely irrelevant and suggesting NBA Live 14 has a chance of being stellar. C'mon man, at best it should bring some things to the table that some gamers can appreciate AND understand the potential to be built on, not something on the level with other next gen sports games that have been releasing yearly while NBA Live has been in exile.

[Jay Jay]

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I explained why splitting into two teams doesn't hurt 2K. Much of the current gen stuff can be folded into the other game or vice versa.

Money and tech by itself doesn't solve problems. Experience, vision, and talent do, and 2K has that in spades. 2K has the better game because it's developers have been the better developers with the better vision under the better leadership-- proven developers that have a great code base who can execute.

That is the biggest advantage of all.

From the latest screenshots and videos, it also looks like 2K has the better artists as far as player models go as well.

This might or might not all shift years down the line but thinking Live has any developmental advantage other than being able to leverage Ignite is wishful EA fanboy thinking or a misunderstanding of how game and software development works.

Smh so I shouldn't expect nothing but a graphics upgrade and a few new animations from 2k ha?

[knick9]

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Of course Live will have flaws, 2K has flaws every year, every game does. I mean, 2K released a basketball game last year with unblockable dunks...and how long have they been making basketball games??? That's like a football game making it impossible to cause a fumble in the red zone, just inexcusable. The bar for Live isn't nearly as high as people want you to believe.

[Sundown]

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[B]Smh so I shouldn't expect nothing but a graphics upgrade and a few new animations from 2k ha?

Nice way to twist what I said.

Let's turn it around on Live-- so I shouldn't expect anything more than an extended dribbling demo with all the terrible gameplay of Live 11-13 and a few good parts of Live 10?

Honestly I'd be happy with improved 2k current gen with a massive graphics overhaul. It'll likely still be a better game than Live this iteration.

Live might put out a mediocre to decent game this year and that would be a huge thing getting the franchise off it's feet, but I really don't understand certain Live "fans" (what they fans of, the brand? Certainly not the nonexistent games) and their willingness to take things on blind faith when it comes to all things EA and not extend 2k the same.

There's also a quote out there that goes something like this; "You have to make peace with your past so it won't spoil your future."

As customers, WE don't have to make peace with anything. It behooves us to be cautious and skeptical given EA's past record and developmental realties.

There's another saying that goes, "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Fool me three times-- is that you EA?"