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  • The 24th Letter
    ERA
    • Oct 2007
    • 39373

    #76
    Re: NBA 2K14 Video - Player Ratings: Classic Teams and Euroleague

    I could totally see KAJ being an *** hat and refusing to let his likeness be used...but I wonder why other players decline, is it all $ motivated?

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    • daveberg
      MVP
      • Sep 2008
      • 2788

      #77
      Re: NBA 2K14 Video - Player Ratings: Classic Teams and Euroleague

      Nothing but greed.

      Barkley, Webber, Miller all rolling in coin, doing their little shows for the NBA, yet can't bring themselves to let their likeness be used in a *** **** game.

      Pretty poor really.

      I'm surprised really that Steve Kerr doesn't lean over to them during Open Court and say, 'What the hell is up with you guys? Put your ego to one side and get in the game to please your fans'.

      Christ, if MJ finally allowed his likeness to be used, I'm sure Chuck, C-Webb and Miller could suck it up and do the same.
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      • Da_Czar
        NBA 2K Gameplay Producer, Offensive AI System - SIM NATION
        • Jul 2002
        • 5408

        #78
        Re: NBA 2K14 Video - Player Ratings: Classic Teams and Euroleague

        Originally posted by daveberg
        Nothing but greed.

        Barkley, Webber, Miller all rolling in coin, doing their little shows for the NBA, yet can't bring themselves to let their likeness be used in a *** **** game.

        Pretty poor really.

        I'm surprised really that Steve Kerr doesn't lean over to them during Open Court and say, 'What the hell is up with you guys? Put your ego to one side and get in the game to please your fans'.

        Christ, if MJ finally allowed his likeness to be used, I'm sure Chuck, C-Webb and Miller could suck it up and do the same.
        The other side is maybe they would sign if the all got MJ type money ! WIth that said maybe there is hope EA has the dollars to throw at these dudes.
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        • The 24th Letter
          ERA
          • Oct 2007
          • 39373

          #79
          Re: NBA 2K14 Video - Player Ratings: Classic Teams and Euroleague

          Originally posted by Da_Czar
          The other side is maybe they would sign if the all got MJ type money ! WIth that said maybe there is hope EA has the dollars to throw at these dudes.
          I was kind've thinking that myself...can legends lend their likeness to two game at once? I would imagine MJ is locked up by 2k, but maybe everyone else is fair game...

          EA def has the green to throw at these guys...a little bit more influence too I would imagine...that aspect should be interesting..

          If our modders weren't handcuffed last year, this wouldn't even be an issue, smh

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          • Vni
            Hall Of Fame
            • Sep 2011
            • 14833

            #80
            Re: NBA 2K14 Video - Player Ratings: Classic Teams and Euroleague

            Just wondering, coudn't have they put up teams like the 08 celtics or 10's Lakers for basically nothing? (Just use theses teams as exemple because most of the players are in the game). I would have definately loved it.

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            • Kurupt_XxX
              Rookie
              • Sep 2010
              • 401

              #81
              Re: NBA 2K14 Video - Player Ratings: Classic Teams and Euroleague

              are we gonna be able to use these eurolg players in the myteam mode?

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              • VDusen04
                Hall Of Fame
                • Aug 2003
                • 13034

                #82
                Re: NBA 2K14 Video - Player Ratings: Classic Teams and Euroleague

                Originally posted by scbond3
                At least Scottie still there. I thought he would be gone since Jay-Z had to beg him to be in last year's version with the Dream Team. I only really play with the teams during the Magic/Bird/Jordan era. Don't mind the Kings not being there if Webber is not there. They should use the same rule for the Dr. J Sixers but they are still in for some reason. I would understand if it was the 82-83 Sixers that won the championship with Moses but its the 84-85 Sixers. No problem with Run TMC or the Hornets, still popular teams to this day but I don't know why the Nuggets are still in, great story when they beat the Sonics, but they weren't that popular imo. The Laker teams still have Magic, so no Kareem doesn't automatically knock them out.

                IMO, the Bucks, Dr. J Sixers, & the Nuggets should have been replaced. One team should have been the twin tower Houston Rocket team with Ralph Sampson & young Akeem that beat the lakers one year to get to the finals. Replace that rookie Kobe/Shaq Laker team with the 2001 team that went 15-1. Already got AI's Sixer team to go with them.

                Not sure whats the fascination with those Vince Carter/Tracy McGrady early 2000's teams that did not accomplish anything of note especially McGrady who never got out of the first round. Those teams were not classic nor legendary nor really good at all. Maybe the 01 Raptor team that took AI to 7 games in the Semi-Finals but thats it. But i guess the same could be said for the 92-93 Hornets/Run TMC Warrior teams also...
                I agree it's nice that Scottie Pippen is returning. For the same reason you mentioned, I sort of figured he'd be out.

                Regarding dropping teams, I believe I'd only be in favor of such moves if I knew for certain they'd be replaced by other classic teams. If they're just being dropped for nothing, I'd much rather keep them included in the game. For instance, in the case of the 2002 Kings, Chris Webber was very creatable via 2KShare. Some players look terrible when created from scratch but I thought some of those C-Webb's looked legit. As such, with all the other Kings pieces accounted for, that squad was up and running with a full unit almost immediately after 2K13 was released.

                As for the fascination with that Raptors team, I think you hit the nail on the head with your TMC and Charlotte comparison. Often, gamers like using great teams from years prior (1996 Bulls, 1986 Celtics). Other times, they like using exciting teams. I think the Raptors love comes from the idea of using athletic prime versions of Tracy McGrady and Vince Carter. I'd personally be a little giddy at the idea of having an authentic prime Vince Carter dunk package at my disposal. Another non-great team I've endorsed in the past is the 2007 Warriors. I just think it'd be a fun experience.

                Originally posted by The 24th Letter
                I could totally see KAJ being an *** hat and refusing to let his likeness be used...but I wonder why other players decline, is it all $ motivated?
                I do not know a ton about individual player's refusal to sign, but I know at least some of the cases are not money related, or at least not in the manner of, "I want more than this, or else I'm not doing it."

                In the case of Charles Barkley, in a radio interview last year he mentioned displeasure (and I could easily have the exact details wrong) with the NBA's stance on retiree compensation. He didn't have an issue regarding himself, because he declared himself incredibly wealthy (I think he said 2K's offer, in the thousands, was like nothing to him). Instead, I think he mentioned an objection to how his former teammates, mentors, and others have been taken care of since retiring.

                So in Barkley's case, I think he felt he was taking a principled stance. There could be loopholes to his feelings and logic, but that seemed to be why he hesitated to be included in NBA video games at any point. Surprisingly to me, he actually confirmed that the only reason he ultimately let his likeness be used for the USA team (though still not any NBA squads) was because Jay-Z called him personally. And, in Barkley's words, if I recall them correctly, "You don't say no to Jay-Z."

                Originally posted by Vni
                Just wondering, coudn't have they put up teams like the 08 celtics or 10's Lakers for basically nothing? (Just use theses teams as exemple because most of the players are in the game). I would have definately loved it.
                I think that'd be a great addition as well. I mentioned the '07 Warriors above, but there's actually a ton of different routes 2K could go that wouldn't require breaking the bank by signing retirees (though I honestly don't know how much it costs per retired player, it actually seems like it might be relatively affordable for role playing, Will Perdue types).

                That's also kind of why I always thought the '00 Raptors would be a fun inclusion. Around eight of their players were already accounted for in 2K, as well as the home and road jerseys. All that'd be needed was authentic court art and preferably, some VC and T-Mac signature dunk/layup packages. Relative to creating a historic team from scratch, the '00 Raptors would seem like a great deal in theory.

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                • jd@os
                  Roster Editor
                  • Jul 2007
                  • 3718

                  #83
                  Re: NBA 2K14 Video - Player Ratings: Classic Teams and Euroleague



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                  • NickYoungGoat
                    Banned
                    • Sep 2012
                    • 357

                    #84
                    Re: NBA 2K14 Video - Player Ratings: Classic Teams and Euroleague

                    Originally posted by jd@os


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                    2k gonna 2k

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                    • NINJAK2
                      *S *dd*ct
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 6185

                      #85
                      Re: NBA 2K14 Video - Player Ratings: Classic Teams and Euroleague

                      Originally posted by jd@os


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                      LOL. I noticed that too. If you look at Ewing's Knicks in that same video you can see they had a picture of Roger Mason when the player was supposed to be Anthony Mason.
                      Last edited by NINJAK2; 09-27-2013, 01:45 PM.
                      EA and 2k have the unfortunate task of trying to balance on a tightrope of fun and sim while trying not to fall 10,000 feet to their death. Instead of a safety net waiting down below there will just be angry customers quick to move out of the way and talk of their failure.

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                      • jd@os
                        Roster Editor
                        • Jul 2007
                        • 3718

                        #86
                        Re: NBA 2K14 Video - Player Ratings: Classic Teams and Euroleague

                        Originally posted by NINJAK2
                        LOL. I noticed that too. If you look at Ewing's Kincks in that same video you can see they had a picture of Roger Mason when the player was supposed to be Anthony Mason.
                        Well I certainly hope they get that fixed because I play exclusively with classic teams.


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                        • cliff1cj
                          Just started!
                          • Aug 2013
                          • 4

                          #87
                          This is looking like a recycled version of 2k13 exactly the same with different visuals no new legends and the same ratings, really 2k im not buying this game for sure and i was ranked in the top 150 on 2k13 smh. Madden and EA are destroying 2k as of right now.

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                          • NINJAK2
                            *S *dd*ct
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 6185

                            #88
                            Re: NBA 2K14 Video - Player Ratings: Classic Teams and Euroleague

                            Originally posted by jd@os
                            Well I certainly hope they get that fixed because I play exclusively with classic teams.


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                            No doubt jd. Those are some pretty basic errors...
                            EA and 2k have the unfortunate task of trying to balance on a tightrope of fun and sim while trying not to fall 10,000 feet to their death. Instead of a safety net waiting down below there will just be angry customers quick to move out of the way and talk of their failure.

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                            • 24
                              Forever A Legend
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 2809

                              #89
                              Re: NBA 2K14 Video - Player Ratings: Classic Teams and Euroleague

                              Really Disappointed in the current gen installation of 2k. I'll be honest if the next gen version fails to impress me then this will be the first time since 2002 that I don't own a 2k basketball game.


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                              • daveberg
                                MVP
                                • Sep 2008
                                • 2788

                                #90
                                Re: NBA 2K14 Video - Player Ratings: Classic Teams and Euroleague

                                To be fair, I don't think i'll get next gen either - it looks like legends are pretty much just an afterthought now, unless next gen comes up with something big, I don't want anything to do with 2k this year. (And no, i'm not going to go and buy Live.)

                                2k13 and retro rosters offline is the way to go for me.
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