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  • laxman490
    Pro
    • Jul 2002
    • 838

    #241
    Re: EA Sports Will Not Publish College Football Game Next Year, Future Plans in Doubt

    Originally posted by hazey
    Any company can put a market value on one of their employees, it doesn't mean the employee somehow gets a certain % of profits back from the company.
    does an employee not deserve a fair market salary?

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    • hazey
      Pro
      • Mar 2008
      • 723

      #242
      Re: EA Sports Will Not Publish College Football Game Next Year, Future Plans in Doubt

      Originally posted by laxman490

      if you really think about it, what has A&M really done for manziel? offer him a place to play? a free place to stay valued at maybe $500/month? some food? clothes?

      Given him a free education. Given him an opportunity to grow as a football player and develop towards a next step of playing professionally.

      I guarantee you if A&M or any other college didn't do that for Manziel, he most likely would not have an opportunity to play in the NFL after being away from the game for 3 years.

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      • Forestman
        Rookie
        • Feb 2012
        • 38

        #243
        Re: EA Sports Will Not Publish College Football Game Next Year, Future Plans in Doubt

        For some reason I am starting to loose some interest in following NCAA Football because of this.....

        Is that normal? Should I just not care?

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        • ACardAttack
          Pro
          • Jul 2005
          • 711

          #244
          Re: EA Sports Will Not Publish College Football Game Next Year, Future Plans in Doubt

          I like how people seem to forget lots of jobs have low or no pay internship requirements

          Also sure education isnt important to most of these athletes, but most won't make a dime outside of what they get for scholarships on their football skills

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          • laxman490
            Pro
            • Jul 2002
            • 838

            #245
            Re: EA Sports Will Not Publish College Football Game Next Year, Future Plans in Doubt

            Originally posted by hazey
            Given him a free education. Given him an opportunity to grow as a football player and develop towards a next step of playing professionally.

            I guarantee you if A&M or any other college didn't do that for Manziel, he most likely would not have an opportunity to play in the NFL after being away from the game for 3 years.
            im going to leave this argument...you people are comparing millions of dollars to a $25K education and "an opportunity to play football." give me a break

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            • hazey
              Pro
              • Mar 2008
              • 723

              #246
              Re: EA Sports Will Not Publish College Football Game Next Year, Future Plans in Doubt

              Originally posted by laxman490
              does an employee not deserve a fair market salary?

              Deserving shouldn't even be an argument hear. There are plenty of past/current players that have been in the exact situation as Manziel. Hell, there are plenty of businesses who don't offer that fair market value to their employees. It's one of the "pleasures" of being born in the land of the free.

              I don't disagree with the notion that Manziel deserves to get some fair market value for his skillset, but that doesn't have to, or should it, come from Texas A&M. If he was allowed by NCAA policy they would have no issues with him making money off his name.

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              • JustAnotherGamer
                Rookie
                • Jul 2002
                • 130

                #247
                Re: EA Sports Will Not Publish College Football Game Next Year, Future Plans in Doubt

                Originally posted by hazey
                Given him a free education. Given him an opportunity to grow as a football player and develop towards a next step of playing professionally.

                I guarantee you if A&M or any other college didn't do that for Manziel, he most likely would not have an opportunity to play in the NFL after being away from the game for 3 years.
                Correct. Pls see Clarret, Maurice or Williams, Mike. Just b/c the athletes don't value the FREE EDUCATION they are being given doesn't mean it doesn't have any value.

                People are going bankrupt is this country to get a college education. Considering how few college athletes actually make it to the show, the education is what will make their lives a success, not the athletic field.

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                • Dogslax41
                  MVP
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 1901

                  #248
                  Re: EA Sports Will Not Publish College Football Game Next Year, Future Plans in Doubt

                  Originally posted by hazey
                  Deserving shouldn't even be an argument hear. There are plenty of past/current players that have been in the exact situation as Manziel. Hell, there are plenty of businesses who don't offer that fair market value to their employees. It's one of the "pleasures" of being born in the land of the free.

                  I don't disagree with the notion that Manziel deserves to get some fair market value for his skillset, but that doesn't have to, or should it, come from Texas A&M. If he was allowed by NCAA policy they would have no issues with him making money off his name.
                  Which is what the entire case is about. It's an anti trust issue created by the NCAA and their policies complicated by their greed.

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                  • ainokmw
                    Rookie
                    • Sep 2013
                    • 22

                    #249
                    Re: EA Sports Will Not Publish College Football Game Next Year, Future Plans in Doubt

                    Ultimately, the problem is that the NFL doesn't have a Developmental League for 18-21 year olds.

                    As of right now, if you're 18 and want to play in the NFL, you have no choice. You have to go to college (even if you don't want to), and you have to agree to work like a dog for years and get no pay while living under a Byzantine series of rules that other students don't have to live under, and the payoff is that you get your education for free, except that you have to appease your coaches who will dangle that scholarship over your head while they actively do everything in their power counter to you getting a quality education.

                    The NFL with their anti-trust exemption has quietly turned a loosely affiliated group of universities in America into their developmental league, most of which are funded at the taxpayers expense. And the sad thing is that students and the universities are fighting each other more and more over who gets the increasingly large chunk of the pie, meanwhile the NFL just reaps the rewards by creating years of buzz and marketing around players they haven't even had to pay yet.

                    If the NFL were forced to create a D-League for 18-21 year old players, then potential players would have a choice. They could join the D-League and play for (low) pay, or they could go to college and play, but they have to agree to play for scholarships. If players had free choice in this matter, most of these legal issues would dry up.

                    Would that affect the quality of college football? Sure. So what. I loved watching it when most teams were terrible. Most people who love college football love it for the pageantry, not the quality of play on display.

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                    • Ky3217
                      Pro
                      • Jun 2012
                      • 699

                      #250
                      Re: EA Sports Will Not Publish College Football Game Next Year, Future Plans in Doubt

                      Originally posted by laxman490
                      i'm pretty sure manziel should care that his #2 jersey is making money, but he isnt getting any of it. that is not being selfish, that is getting what you deserve. im not saying athletic departments have to pay them, i will bet in 15 years there will be a development league.

                      if you really think about it, what has A&M really done for manziel? offer him a place to play? a free place to stay valued at maybe $500/month? some food? clothes?

                      Manziel's jersey makes money for the athletic department, who in turn, uses that revenue to pay for the expenses of every sports program they run. (because football is the money maker for athletic departments. Occasionally basketball.) It pays for equipment, uniforms, facilities, etc. It's not like the school just hoards that money for itself. Nor should Manziel.
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                      • hazey
                        Pro
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 723

                        #251
                        Re: EA Sports Will Not Publish College Football Game Next Year, Future Plans in Doubt

                        Originally posted by laxman490
                        im going to leave this argument...you people are comparing millions of dollars to a $25K education and "an opportunity to play football." give me a break

                        You're trying to make an argument against something that has existed in our country since our independance and somehow making Manziel an exception.

                        And how ar eyou determining 25K? That seems kind of low when your including books, tuition, free meals on a daily basis that probably add over $1000. They get free strength and conditioning programs at a permier level that most people on the street couldn't even afford.

                        Athletes nowadays get open ended credit cards to use on University campus for whichever they wish, all included in their "scholarship".

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                        • davidd
                          Rookie
                          • Jul 2009
                          • 134

                          #252
                          Re: EA Sports Will Not Publish College Football Game Next Year, Future Plans in Doubt

                          okay back on the topic of this game, has EA confirmed that they'll be taking down the servers for NCAA 14 or will they leave them up for the foreseeable future as 2k did with College Hoops 2k8?

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                          • hazey
                            Pro
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 723

                            #253
                            Re: EA Sports Will Not Publish College Football Game Next Year, Future Plans in Doubt

                            Originally posted by davidd
                            okay back on the topic of this game, has EA confirmed that they'll be taking down the servers for NCAA 14 or will they leave them up for the foreseeable future as 2k did with College Hoops 2k8?

                            Rumors are theyare taking them down after season, but I don't think I believe that. The only way I think they are taking them down is if it was part of the settlement, as a way of preventing rosters to be passed around.

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                            • ainokmw
                              Rookie
                              • Sep 2013
                              • 22

                              #254
                              Re: EA Sports Will Not Publish College Football Game Next Year, Future Plans in Doubt

                              Originally posted by Ky3217
                              Manziel's jersey makes money for the athletic department, who in turn, uses that revenue to pay for the expenses of every sports program they run. (because football is the money maker for athletic departments. Occasionally basketball.) It pays for equipment, uniforms, facilities, etc. It's not like the school just hoards that money for itself. Nor should Manziel.
                              More and more it's not going to "equipment, uniforms, facilities, etc." nor is it being hoarded by the schools. It's being hoarded by coaches, whose salaries have skyrocketed in recent years.

                              Between 2006 and 2011, SEC football coaches salaries rose on average 128% at a time when their instructional faculty only had a 15% increase in salary.

                              In 26 states in the US, the highest paid state employee is a football coach at a public university.

                              Nick Saban's salary ($5.3 mil) is enough to pay the full years tuition of an entire 85 member football team, and still have $3.2 mil to play around with.

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                              • Mazarati 2012
                                Pro
                                • Jul 2012
                                • 533

                                #255
                                Re: EA Sports Will Not Publish College Football Game Next Year, Future Plans in Doubt

                                Being that the NCAA Football series was the only sports game I purchased every year since it began, I am very, very disappointed by this but life goes on. I'll just put the $60 I spent on this game every year towards Madden. I wasn't a big fan of Madden before, but I am now.

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