EA/CLC Settlement With O'Bannon Team Is $40 Million

[dghustla]

I never played D1 sports but have had several very close friends who made it to that level. And also associated with plenty of ballers on campus. and I'm sorry anyone crying about the rigors of playing sports in college and being a campus legend, I DON'T feel your pain. Players are given preferential treatment that regular students only dream about. Tutors, healthcare, free meals, vip treatment. I'm not buying the "my life is soo hard i'm a broke college athlete routine". Everyone i knew grew up middle class or poor. The ppl who got to play sports were lucky they never had to worry about their tuition check bouncing.

[da ThRONe]

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How much actual money does a scholarship cost a school? Just because they charge 75K a year doesn't mean that's what it cost the school. Whats 200 or so "free rides" to a university that has 25,000 plus students?

[dghustla]

Re: EA/CLC Settlement With O'Bannon Team Is $40 Million

How much actual money does a scholarship cost a school? Just because they charge 75K a year doesn't mean that's what it cost the school. Whats 200 or so "free rides" to a university that has 25,000 plus students?

Opportunity Cost: 1. The cost of an alternative that must be forgone in order to pursue a certain action. Put another way, the benefits you could have received by taking an alternative action.

By giving that spot to an athlete a paying student must be rejected.

[da ThRONe]

Re: EA/CLC Settlement With O'Bannon Team Is $40 Million

I never played D1 sports but have had several very close friends who made it to that level. And also associated with plenty of ballers on campus. and I'm sorry anyone crying about the rigors of playing sports in college and being a campus legend, I DON'T feel your pain. Players are given preferential treatment that regular students only dream about. Tutors, healthcare, free meals, vip treatment. I'm not buying the "my life is soo hard i'm a broke college athlete routine". Everyone i knew grew up middle class or poor. The ppl who got to play sports were lucky they never had to worry about their tuition check bouncing.

Here is the difference many of you are over looking. It isn't luck. These young people have to work hard to earn and maintain that scholarship. They generate insane revenue that the school couldn't have done so in other methods.

[da ThRONe]

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Opportunity Cost: 1. The cost of an alternative that must be forgone in order to pursue a certain action. Put another way, the benefits you could have received by taking an alternative action.

By giving that spot to an athlete a paying student must be rejected.

You can't believe that?

There's no set number. No student is rejected because of a student athlete.

[sportzbro]

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I'm saying you have no clue what you are talking about and have no room to ask how tough can it be because you have never done it. I played D1 in college. I had scholarships and chose not to accept them. Why would someone do this? Because I played a sport where going pro meant making a couple hundred bucks a game and I knew that if I accepted a scholarship that University could dictate the terms of my scholarship. I get hurt...bye bye scholarship. I want to take challenging classes, only at the approval of the head coach. I don't feel like sacrificing my education for a sport that may or may not be in my future, too bad I'm committed to the team and my education being "paid" for is at their discretion.

You sound like you're reaching for sympathy points. First, you turned down scholarships because you apparently couldn't pick your classes. Then you go on to complain about an athlete's "lifestyle" and how tough it is because of the time commitment? Gimme a break.

So instead I chose a better education that I had to pay for and still had film sessions, lifting, practice marketing commitments, travel and much more that prevented me from having even remotely the college experience that non-athletes get to enjoy. Luckily I chose the way I did because I blew my knee out and would have had my scholarship taken before I was done.

Dude, you and you alone made that decision. Why am I or anyone else supposed to feel sorry for you because you didn't get to drink, tailgate, or hang with friends as much as regular students? And injury is an assumed risk playing sports...

After tearing up my knee and getting to be a regular student my GPA went through the roof and I had time to socialize, attend special lectures and just be a student. None of those things were available as a D1 athlete. So unless you have put in the hours then its pretty ridiculous to ask what's so hard about being a D1 athlete.

Oh cry me a river.. You CHOSE to play! No one forced you to. An injury made you realize this?

So a free education could have only potentially cost me a compromised education, a surgically repaired knee, a surgically repaired elbow and a lifetime of migraines possibly from concussions. You get any of those being an EMPLOYEE of a D1 program?

You alone chose to play. Just you. You knew exactly what type of commitment, risks, and terms of that decision were when you signed on, and here you are trying to act like it was just so unfair that others aren't faced with that reality. You're so very brave for enduring those injuries to realize it wasn't really worth it.

What is with this mentality of players and former players trying to convince others that their life was so terrible in their playing days because they "can't just enjoy the life of a regular student". This is a classic case of having your cake and eating it too, and the underlying problem of all these current athletes wanting to be paid. You can't have it both ways. You signed on to play whatever sport. Not one person forced you to do this, and you even had the resources to have your pick between scholarships and paying for your own education. This isn't a sacrifice - it's a privilege to have that type of option.

[sportzbro]

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If you have a problem with your college experience you should take that up with the institution not the young people doing their best to navigate the same screwed up system.

We aren't "navigating the same screwed up system" though. One person receives a free ride with perks while the others pay for it. Pretty simple.

[Kaiser Wilhelm]

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You don't seem to understand.

From another thread:

"Amateur status", "education", ect are all just red herrings at the end of the day with respect to this issue. The entire transaction (which is what this really amounts to) is very simple when you're at the levels of competition where the real money made. The player is interested going somewhere to maximize his opportunity to become a professional. The institution is looking for players to help them mantain/attain a successful program and therefore increase revenue generated. "Education" has absolutely nothing to do with what either side is really interested in at this level. But some of you are perfectly ok with colleges using it as some kind of compensation?

For a small percentage of football and basketball players, and an even small amount regarding the entirety of college athletics. The entire purpose of maintaining a collegiate sports team, clubs and other student activity groups is to market the institution to get people to spend their money their. Even for non-profits that is the goal. So yes that is the interest of the University.

For the players on the other hand, only a small few have any opportunity to actually gain anything substantial from their playing careers by going pro or in any other form. Most people who go to college don't give a rats *** about their education; it is a means to an end. They want a career, just like these athletes. The difference is these athletes get free room and board, free meals, a free education, free access to the highest quality physical training and a free opportunity to try to audition for professional athletics. They aren't different than the majority of college students, they are trying to get a job.

To all those who think college players should be paid outright, what do you say to the Gymnastics, Swimming, Track and Field, Cross Country, Wrestling, Field Hockey, Tennis, Rowing, Bowling, Baseball, Softball, Soccer, Women's Basketball, etc, teams that they no longer have a program because the Football and Men's Basketball teams are now hoarding the revenue for themselves.

[roadman]

Re: EA/CLC Settlement With O'Bannon Team Is $40 Million

How much actual money does a scholarship cost a school? Just because they charge 75K a year doesn't mean that's what it cost the school. Whats 200 or so "free rides" to a university that has 25,000 plus students?

A lot when you have two kids in college. lol

[da ThRONe]

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For a small percentage of football and basketball players, and an even small amount regarding the entirety of college athletics. The entire purpose of maintaining a collegiate sports team, clubs and other student activity groups is to market the institution to get people to spend their money their. Even for non-profits that is the goal. So yes that is the interest of the University.

For the players on the other hand, only a small few have any opportunity to actually gain anything substantial from their playing careers by going pro or in any other form. Most people who go to college don't give a rats *** about their education; it is a means to an end. They want a career, just like these athletes. The difference is these athletes get free room and board, free meals, a free education, free access to the highest quality physical training and a free opportunity to try to audition for professional athletics. They aren't different than the majority of college students, they are trying to get a job.

To all those who think college players should be paid outright, what do you say to the Gymnastics, Swimming, Track and Field, Cross Country, Wrestling, Field Hockey, Tennis, Rowing, Bowling, Baseball, Softball, Soccer, Women's Basketball, etc, teams that they no longer have a program because the Football and Men's Basketball teams are now hoarding the revenue for themselves.

The difference is how much of a regular student times and energy goes to generating revenue for the schools and how much.

[da ThRONe]

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We aren't "navigating the same screwed up system" though. One person receives a free ride with perks while the others pay for it. Pretty simple.

I'd make an agruement their situation is worse. They are putting their minds and body at risk to generate millions for the school and they don't get any of the money.

[sportzbro]

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I'd make an agruement their situation is worse. They are putting their minds and body at risk to generate millions for the school and they don't get any of the money.

You made the decision to play. You knew the risks. Why is that so hard to understand?

And students also generate "millions" by developing technology, cures, figuring out formulas, producing top talent that enters the work force. By them succeeding, more students want to go to that university. It's not all about you.

The difference is how much of a regular student's time and energy goes to generating revenue for the schools and how much.

10K per semester for this regular student. Stop putting yourself on a pedestal.

[roadman]

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The difference is how much of a regular student times and energy goes to generating revenue for the schools and how much.

Depends.

If a student feels it's a great college, they recruit their friends to go there.

As a fan, I don't go to Badger games to see Melvin Gordon, James White, Joel Stave or Jared Abberderris. I go to watch the Badgers as a team.

Same goes for Marquette or the Badgers hoops team.

[Sam Marlowe]

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You made the decision to play. You knew the risks. Why is that so hard to understand?

This kind of mentality is disturbing. Colleges (and by extension the NCAA) are not benevolent benefactors. They are businesses by any standard definition. Their objective is to profit. Why should they be given free reign to benefit monetarily? A full on pay system isn't practical (or currently legal) but what good reason is there for depriving someone the same opportunity to profit from themselves in the exact same way the institutions do?

[Sam Marlowe]

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One person receives a free ride with perks while the others pay for it. Pretty simple.

It is just that simple. He's worth more than you are to the institution. The scholarship (to go with vip treatment ect) is an incentive to entice him to sign.