EA/CLC Settlement With O'Bannon Team Is $40 Million

[Sam Marlowe]

Re: EA/CLC Settlement With O'Bannon Team Is $40 Million

But but but...i thought Ed O'Bannon was the flag bearer for NCAA reform....but but but he's doing this for what's right....YAWN! this is and was always about a check for Mr. O'Bannon who has already thrown away millions in his life time. When EA flashed him dollars he immediately gave up on the "new slaves".

LOL, in a large number if cases whistleblowers and dime droppers who cause reform or criminal activity to become unearthed are people with an ax to grind. This is nothing unconventional. Its how people are. You don't really care about something until it affects you. Then you suddenly find a "cause". That doesn't mean the cause itself is invalid.

And let's be clear here, the system is in place to generate revenue. First and foremost. Any exposure someone gets is simply a by product.

[sportzbro]

Re: EA/CLC Settlement With O'Bannon Team Is $40 Million

This kind of mentality is disturbing. Colleges (and by extension the NCAA) are not benevolent benefactors. They are businesses by any standard definition. Their objective is to profit. Why should they be given free reign to benefit monetarily? A full on pay system isn't practical (or currently legal) but what good reason is there for depriving someone the same opportunity to profit from themselves in the exact same way the institutions do?

You're volunteering your football/sports talents to improve the brand/image of the university just like any student is volunteering their time/effort/grades to increase program rankings future applications/interest in that school. And really, only 25-30 athletic departments actually turn a profit each year, how would that effect the smaller teams - tennis, soccer, etc. Do they get a piece of the pie? What about your 3rd string linebacker - what's his compensation? How do you measure his contribution and "sacrifice" for the almighty football squad? It's not like each and every single school is going gangbusters.

[sportzbro]

Re: EA/CLC Settlement With O'Bannon Team Is $40 Million

It is just that simple. He's worth more than you are to the institution. The scholarship (to go with vip treatment ect) is an incentive to entice him to sign.

Yes, and that VIP treatment you mention is where the compensation should end. What about the kids that get academic scholarships - Should they be compensated on top of the scholarship for increasing program rankings/job placement/etc.

[KingofATL]

All the time in court and court cost for a few hundred dollars.....

C'mon Maaaaaaaaaaaan!!!!!!!!

[Sam Marlowe]

Re: EA/CLC Settlement With O'Bannon Team Is $40 Million

How about I bitch and moan about the university commercials often shown touting how great this program is - or how amazing this field of study is - or how if you come here you're life will change - or we have X amount of award winners - or the debate team is defending national champions... I'm part of that. I make that happen along with countless other students. Where's my compensation for making the university what it is?

You either aren't really reading my comments or you don't understand what Im saying. Im basically throwing any pay system from the school end of things out of the window. Its untenable and currently illegal. But why should the NCAA be allowed to have a monopoly on player likenesses and names for profit to go along with their other revenue streams?

Players can't be paid, but why should they be denied access to money they themselves could generate from their own likeness or name? And not just while they attend school but even after they have left?

[sportzbro]

Re: EA/CLC Settlement With O'Bannon Team Is $40 Million

You either aren't really reading my comments or you don't understand what Im saying. Im basically throwing any pay system from the school end of things out of the window. Its untenable and currently illegal. But why should the NCAA be allowed to have a monopoly on player likenesses and names for profit to go along with their other revenue streams?

Players can't be paid, but why should they be denied access to money they themselves could generate from their own likeness or name? And not just while they attend school but even after they have left?

Yes, I was a bit confused by your comment, but do agree with the pay system not happening. As far as compensation for likeness - games/jerseys/etc. - IMO, they are simply a number... a member of the collective, amateur team with revenues going back into the team which propels it for future success helping attract more students/professors/athletes.

It's a two way street - you play for us & we'll set you up for success, BUT we own your "image". I think it's a fair trade off all things considered. That's about as simple as I can summarize my stance on it.

[Sam Marlowe]

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Yes, I was a bit confused by your comment, but do agree with the pay system not happening. As far as compensation for likeness - games/jerseys/etc. - IMO, they are simply a number... a member of the collective, amateur team with revenues going back into the team which propels it for future success helping attract more students/professors/athletes.

It's a two way street - you play for us & we'll set you up for success, BUT we own your "image". I think it's a fair trade off all things considered. That's about as simple as I can summarize my stance on it.

Im sorry but this doesn't cut it. The institutions themselves value the higher earners (which is what they really are) more. Hence the vip treatment, bogus scholarships ect.

Anyway, its not nowhere a fair trade off. U get millions while I get "exposure" and "set up for success"? LOL, no. (Btw Im referencing things at the highest level. The top schools, top conferences, top players. That's where all the money is generated)

[Dogslax41]

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What is with this mentality of players and former players trying to convince others that their life was so terrible in their playing days because they "can't just enjoy the life of a regular student". This is a classic case of having your cake and eating it too, and the underlying problem of all these current athletes wanting to be paid. You can't have it both ways. You signed on to play whatever sport. Not one person forced you to do this, and you even had the resources to have your pick between scholarships and paying for your own education. This isn't a sacrifice - it's a privilege to have that type of option.

Life was so terrible...no. Would I do it all over again in a heartbeat absolutely but to sit and listen to a jocksniffer tell me that playing D1 ball doesn't require serious life altering sacrifices then yes that gets on my nerves. A PRIVILEGE that every single one of us worked non stop for pre-college and in college and earned.

At no point did I ever say it was unfair. What I said was you have ZERO room to trivialize the sacrifices athletes make.

[koolaid251]

We need to whip Ed O'bannon and Sam kellers *** this is some bs!!!

[jerwoods]

Re: EA/CLC Settlement With O'Bannon Team Is $40 Million

if i was EA and knew let say in dec 2012 that this was going to be my last ncaa game most likely for good


i would have done this
1 Add a Custom Playoff 4'8'12'16
2 add all 1-a and 1-aa teams
add all 1-aa conf
3 add storming the field after a big win
in dynasty mode add loss of scholarships bowl bans
add all uni
4 put in a stadium editor

[da ThRONe]

Re: EA/CLC Settlement With O'Bannon Team Is $40 Million

You made the decision to play. You knew the risks. Why is that so hard to understand?

And students also generate "millions" by developing technology, cures, figuring out formulas, producing top talent that enters the work force. By them succeeding, more students want to go to that university. It's not all about you.

And you make the decision to go to the school. That doesn't make the escalating cost of college fair or the exploitation of college athletes fair.

You make my case. Those student who work in labs get paid through grants. Again I think the cost of colleges are criminal and something should be done about it. However that's not the discussion here. Also forbiding athletes from accepting money and/or signing endorsement deals doesn't have any impact on your tuition.

10K per semester for this regular student. Stop putting yourself on a pedestal.

It's no pedestal just common sense. Nothing prevents you from accepting money or working. If you can work for Mircosoft for a summer and they want to pay you however much they are more than welcome to. Student athlete not so much.

[jyoung]

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Yes, and that VIP treatment you mention is where the compensation should end. What about the kids that get academic scholarships - Should they be compensated on top of the scholarship for increasing program rankings/job placement/etc.

Student stipends are already an extremely common practice among universities. In addition to their academic scholarships, many students receive thousands of dollars each semester for doing work, research or teaching outside their classroom responsibilities.

Athletes are pretty much the only type of students who can't receive stipends right now because of the NCAA's archaic amateurism rules.

Yet they do just as much work, if not more, for a university than a teacher assistant or a research assistant does.

[Crimsontide27]

Re: EA/CLC Settlement With O'Bannon Team Is $40 Million

if i was EA and knew let say in dec 2012 that this was going to be my last ncaa game most likely for good


i would have done this
1 Add a Custom Playoff 4'8'12'16
2 add all 1-a and 1-aa teams
add all 1-aa conf
3 add storming the field after a big win
in dynasty mode add loss of scholarships bowl bans
add all uni
4 put in a stadium editor

There was a copy already with storming the field, it was removed from the retail version due to outside pressure.

[ubernoob]

Re: EA/CLC Settlement With O'Bannon Team Is $40 Million

All athletes should be entitled to their fair share?

Yup. And every employee at Nike should get paid like Jordan since they do all the work too.

[Sam Marlowe]

Re: EA/CLC Settlement With O'Bannon Team Is $40 Million

All athletes should be entitled to their fair share?

Yup. And every employee at Nike should get paid like Jordan since they do all the work too.

Way to live up to your name...wow