EA Sports Will Not Publish College Football Game Next Year, Future Plans in Doubt

[bkrich83]

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I gotta get mine generation? And that only applies to the players right.

Applies to the entire generation. The players are just the most visible now.

[da ThRONe]

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So, basically, because they work at the same company and building, from top to bottom, throw them all under the bus and drive over in reverse with people you don't know.

Sounds like a game plan, but something that I was never taught to do. Guilt by association.

I do agree with paying for their likeness and similar things to that, but outside of that, I don't agree with paying them any more.

What are you talking about? I'm not happy anybody is losing their jobs. However I can't support the exploitation of human beings either.

[nc0ffey]

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"For starters, the scholarships don't actually cost the schools anything. You're talking about 90 additional students among tens of thousands. The schools aren't hiring extra professors or building extra lecture halls for a fraction of a percent of their student body. Simply having these kids enrolled makes zero difference to their bottom line as far as the scholarship is concerned. It doesn't matter if it's BC at $60K/yr or UF at $20K/yr for a normal student, giving a scholarship to 90 football players isn't really costing the school any money.

Room & board at somewhere around $10K-$15K/yr has some real costs involved, but it's also got a ton of markup involved. I'm not sure where you went to school, but I've never heard of a single school where it wasn't considerably cheaper to live off campus and buy real food from grocery stores.

So, real costs, maybe $7500/yr? That's really not a lot of money, especially when you consider the earning potential being denied by NCAA regs."


Tapatalk won't let me do a proper quote...

But this scenario is only taking 1 sport into account. Title IX wouldn't allow for just football players to get paid, it would have to be across all sports. Then you'll have non athletes looking for handouts too, think about those kids who's GPA brings up the overall GPA of the school...would it be wrong for them to get compensated outside of their scholarship.

I really could care less about college students/athletes getting paid. I'm definitely going to miss college sports games. Glad I have CH 2K8 and will keep NCAA 14 til something changes.

[da ThRONe]

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Today's athletes are punks. They are more intent on destroying something instead of trying to build. This EA-NCAA-athletes lawsuit is just one little small example in our society. Feel free to drive off a cliff Sam Keller. You piece of trash.

I'll just focus on this part. At what point are we going to hold the people who actually made millions of dollars on these young men likeness accountable? There is a reason why EA settle this suit and it's not because EA just enjoy handing money out. They where well aware of what was taking place.

We should applaud the fact that this injustice has been corrected. At a point I loved EA's NCAA and was optimistic that moving over to next gen that EA would be able to get NCAA Football up to my standard. So I feel some sense of a loss, but IMO this settlement means more big picture than me enjoying a video game.

[bkrich83]

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LOL injustice and exploitation. Talk about lack of perspective. Thanks for proving my point.

And who are all these guys making millions?

[roadman]

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What are you talking about? I'm not happy anybody is losing their jobs. However I can't support the exploitation of human beings either.

As I stated in the other thread to you, the exploitation, (which is a very strong word to use) goes both ways.

The star player is being marketed by the NCAA and university to prepare the star player for the NFL. Also, it's all about college football and basketball. That's what drives people to the games. Seeing their favorite TEAM, not star player.

The star player will come and go, but the colleges will carry on without them and still fill the stadiums. Marquette lost Vander Blue to the NBA(wasn't even drafted) this season. Do you really think there will less sellouts at Marquette because Vander Blue left early?

If you don't agree, then it's time to agree to disagree and bow out, just like last year at this time with the "Fail Mary."

[da ThRONe]

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As I stated in the other thread to you, the exploitation, (which is a very strong word to use) goes both ways.

The star player is being marketed by the NCAA and university to prepare the star player for the NFL. Also, it's all about college football and basketball. That's what drives people to the games. Seeing their favorite TEAM, not star player.

The star player will come and go, but the colleges will carry on without them and still fill the stadiums. Marquette lost Vander Blue to the NBA(wasn't even drafted) this season. Do you really think there will less sellouts at Marquette because Vander Blue left early?

If you don't agree, then it's time to agree to disagree and bow out, just like last year at this time with the "Fail Mary."

That's like saying because Microsoft will go on whether I work there are not, I shouldn't get paid. That's nonsense. If I generate revenue for a source I should get some of it. At the very least that group shouldn't be able to block my ability to make money from a 3rd party.

[ACardAttack]

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Couldn't have said it better myself. And yes, for the reasons you mentioned, the university system is about as likely to pay players as the Catholic Church is likely to endorse abortion. The other day, the Big 10 Commissioner Tom Delaney pretty much said as much. If the Big 10 is willing to cut off their cash cow, so will all the others (except for maybe the SEC, since they care little about academics). They simply CAN'T pay players, and they won't. If they have to shut it all down, they will. They aren't bluffing.

Not to mention, most athletic departments do not operate in the black already

[bkrich83]

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Not to mention, most athletic departments do not operate in the black already

To further that people aren't factoring in things like Title IX. So if you're going to start paying players, it's not going to be football players only .

Not to mention the labor/Tax/Benefits laws that now come in to affect since the players would be actual employees of the school.

Any notion that players are somehow going to get paid, is simply fantasy.

[Mouse]

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yeah society is really going to the pits because some athlete won't let me use his likeness in a video game without being compensated for it.

[roadman]

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That's like saying because Microsoft will go on whether I work there are not, I shouldn't get paid. That's nonsense. If I generate revenue for a source I should get some of it. At the very least that group shouldn't be able to block my ability to make money from a 3rd party.

I've never disagreed with your last sentence, makes much more sense.

If you don't work at MS, why would you get paid, unless you were a temp employee or a consultant?

That's true with any company. Once you leave, you can be replaced.

[RedSoxFox7]

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"For starters, the scholarships don't actually cost the schools anything. You're talking about 90 additional students among tens of thousands. The schools aren't hiring extra professors or building extra lecture halls for a fraction of a percent of their student body. Simply having these kids enrolled makes zero difference to their bottom line as far as the scholarship is concerned. It doesn't matter if it's BC at $60K/yr or UF at $20K/yr for a normal student, giving a scholarship to 90 football players isn't really costing the school any money.

Room & board at somewhere around $10K-$15K/yr has some real costs involved, but it's also got a ton of markup involved. I'm not sure where you went to school, but I've never heard of a single school where it wasn't considerably cheaper to live off campus and buy real food from grocery stores.

So, real costs, maybe $7500/yr? That's really not a lot of money, especially when you consider the earning potential being denied by NCAA regs."


Tapatalk won't let me do a proper quote...

But this scenario is only taking 1 sport into account. Title IX wouldn't allow for just football players to get paid, it would have to be across all sports. Then you'll have non athletes looking for handouts too, think about those kids who's GPA brings up the overall GPA of the school...would it be wrong for them to get compensated outside of their scholarship.

I really could care less about college students/athletes getting paid. I'm definitely going to miss college sports games. Glad I have CH 2K8 and will keep NCAA 14 til something changes.

Like I said, none of that matters if the schools aren't paying the kids. None of this matters if the NCAA simply allows the kids to get paid through endorsements, licensing, autograph signings, etc.

[Gronk4M13]

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I considered trading in NCAA 14 last month, but decided not to. Looks like I made the right choice.

[RedSoxFox7]

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To further that people aren't factoring in things like Title IX. So if you're going to start paying players, it's not going to be football players only .

Not to mention the labor/Tax/Benefits laws that now come in to affect since the players would be actual employees of the school.

Any notion that players are somehow going to get paid, is simply fantasy.

Absolutely none of this matters in the context of video games.

If the NCAA would lift their asinine restriction on athletes making money, the kids could license their likeness directly to EA and we'd have new games.

No Title IX, no school employees, no changes in federal funding of schools, no changes in tax law, nothing along these lines.

The only significant change that might occur is players having licensing deals with their own schools so the schools can sell player merch.

[bkrich83]

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Absolutely none of this matters in the context of video games.

If the NCAA would lift their asinine restriction on athletes making money, the kids could license their likeness directly to EA and we'd have new games.

No Title IX, no school employees, no changes in federal funding of schools, no changes in tax law, nothing along these lines.

The only significant change that might occur is players having licensing deals with their own schools so the schools can sell player merch.

I agree, if it could be controlled. The problem is once you start allowing kids to accept money they become open to outside influences. That's a major concern imo. Also how do the schools and the programs protect their IP's in the process as well? Who regulates this?

I am not opposed to this in theory, but the logistics and the possible repercussions of outside influences would make me nervous.

Also with the added complexity and where NCAA games fall in the profit tier, I doubt EA would even think it worth the added effort that would come with an added complexity of individual player licensing.