EA/CLC Settlement With O'Bannon Team Is $40 Million

[ubernoob]

Re: EA/CLC Settlement With O'Bannon Team Is $40 Million

Again look up the definition of exploitation and tell me it doesn't fit. I can't be responsible if you don't know the definition of a word or how said word makes you feel.

Coaches cash in, AD's, Dean's, trainers, tutors, tv Networks, commentators, sports writers, ground keepers, and up until recently people who worked for EA making NCAA.

What type of person am I exactly? One that speaks out against what I think is wrong even though it doesn't benefit me. I can almost assure you you have no clue what type of person I am if you think I base fairness solely around money.

Exploitation does fit, if you use it in the other sense - "to make use of; to use".

If you're talking about the other way, get outta here with that BS.

Also, it's not hard to find people supporting causes that don't benefit them - doesn't mean they're right. Don't get up on your soapbox and act like you're crusading for justice. Sick and tired of seeing these "woe is me/them" posts about college students.

[bkrich83]

Re: EA/CLC Settlement With O'Bannon Team Is $40 Million

Exploitation does fit, if you use it in the other sense - "to make use of; to use".

If you're talking about the other way, get outta here with that BS.

Also, it's not hard to find people supporting causes that don't benefit them - doesn't mean they're right. Don't get up on your soapbox and act like you're crusading for justice. Sick and tired of seeing these "woe is me/them" posts about college students.

It's the culture for a lot of people. It's why they usually end up where they do. It's easy to play the victim, even when there's nothing there.

[BizDevConglomerate]

You can't blame O'bannon, and Keller for EA not making a game. Lol. All they havr to is keep a helmet on the players vs e, use throwing motions from THE NFLPA contract, and use city names instead of licensed names of the schools. You cantbtelk me they won't save money, and make the game more interesting. Add features for the user to change the names or replace the teams. BUT this tells me EA is lazy and can care less about gaming from the shoes of a consumer, but the profits off naive consumers.

Exp. Teambuilder, Backbreaker, 2K APF,

NES Tecmo Bowl needs to return. Sega messed up sports gaming. I mean when it was electronic arts, they produced good games, but EA got lazy.

I wish Backbreakee would return to consoles and change the camera view.

[ubernoob]

Re: EA/CLC Settlement With O'Bannon Team Is $40 Million

I almost missed this in your post, it's not explained and just randomly thrown in there.

How did Sega mess up sports gaming?

[Kaiser Wilhelm]

Re: EA/CLC Settlement With O'Bannon Team Is $40 Million

First and foremost did your high school prevent you from making money off of your popularity and/or likeness or prevent you from accepting gifts? My point exactly. I recall a one LeBron James inking a 90million dollar deal with Nike while still in HS.

Secondly that's not act like the amount of revenue collected doesn't factor into what is or isn't exploitation.

Actually, yes, the rules of amateur athletics apply to high schools. Upstate New York even has a magazine with the high school athletes, the same way ESPN and SI do with collegiate athletes. They just don't get paid but do give consent simply because most High Schoolers think its freaking awesome to be in a magazine or newspaper.

To the second point of that post, then scale matter? So it isn't the principle alone but only when applied to scale? That weakens the argument in my opinion. It's okay for high schools to use "profitable" programs to support the other programs but not colleges.

Thirdly, you never answered who was being exploited? Is it all student-athletes or is it just the football and men's basketball players?

[BizDevConglomerate]

I almost missed this in your post, it's not explained and just randomly thrown in there.

How did Sega mess up sports gaming?

I was running off. I couldnt remember if konami or Sega made Tecmo. But it was NES. Lol.

See what had happened was I misremembered. Yeah that's what happened. And Sega ushered in EA. Right?

Come on ppl. Yall are bi5ching about these ppls lives and how it affected a game. It's not their fault. It's EA blame them.

[da ThRONe]

Re: EA/CLC Settlement With O'Bannon Team Is $40 Million

Exploitation does fit, if you use it in the other sense - "to make use of; to use".

If you're talking about the other way, get outta here with that BS.

Also, it's not hard to find people supporting causes that don't benefit them - doesn't mean they're right. Don't get up on your soapbox and act like you're crusading for justice. Sick and tired of seeing these "woe is me/them" posts about college students.

It funny you support someone questioning my character simply because you agree with his argument. I didn't say my lack of beneficial gain made me right.

Again exploitation is define as making profit without sharing. "Paying" student athletes in an inflated scholarships, gifts and benefits is the same as executive producers paying the talent in cars, jewelry and condos while pocketing the money, rights, and royalties.

This isn't woe is me? I never said college life is awful so again don't put your misconceptions in my post. It doesn't matter what college life is like. For one group to make billions and for another to be paid in gifts and in "potential" is exploitation. No matter how you want to tap dance around it.

[roadman]

Re: EA/CLC Settlement With O'Bannon Team Is $40 Million

Not sure where you went to HS, but my HS did and still does.

http://www.wiaawi.org/Schools/EligibilityRulesForms.aspx

Student-athletes are in violation of the members’ amateur status rules if they:

1) ...accept, receive and/or direct to another, reimbursement or award in any form of salary, cash, merchandise of any kind or amount, or share of game or season proceeds for achievement in athletics. A student may not receive such merchandise items as shirts, jackets, sweaters, sweatshirts, jerseys, warm-ups, equipment, balls, duffel bags, backpacks, watches, rings, billfolds, coupons, gift certificates, e.g., regardless of their value.
2) ...sign a contract or agreement for services as a participating athlete.
3) ...receive compensation or benefit, directly or indirectly, for the use of name, picture, and/or personal appearance as an athlete. This includes but is not limited to: receiving free and/or reduced rates on equipment, apparel, camps/clinics/instruction and competitive opportunities that are not identical for all other participants. In addition, student-athletes and parents must pay all costs associated with attending camps and/or clinics.
4) ...are identified as an athlete, provides endorsement as an athlete, or appears as an athlete, in the promotion of a commercial/advertisement and/or profit-making event, item, plan or service.
5) ...play in any contest (school or nonschool) under a name other than his/her own name.

Also, do you have a link to all this massive amount of money being made by all these colleges? I'd like to see financial pages of your stated claims or it's all opinion based.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/college/2013/05/07/ncaa-finances-subsidies/2142443/

23 of the 228 athletic departments at the NCAA D1 level generated enough money on their own to cover their expenses in 2012. So, 10% of the NCAA D1 schools generated enough money to cover their own expenses.

Please, show me the exploitation! Who is exploiting who with those figures?

This reason is based on logic.

And you continue to ignore what I posted? Fact vs your opinion?

Where is your information coming from that AD departments are making billions and exploiting players?

Sorry this fact doesn't fit your opinion.

When did cars, jewelry, and condos become payments? Those are called perks, bonus's, etc... Actors sign contracts with their agents for movies and they can negotiate royalties, perks and bonuses before the movie. Jack Nicholson took a percentage of the royalties for Batman instead of salary. It's called a signed contract. You are really reaching, now.

You've haven't shown us any proof whatsoever regarding AD departments making billions. And I have shown proof that only 10% of the 228 D1 colleges generated enough money to cover their own expenses.

[sportzbro]

Re: EA/CLC Settlement With O'Bannon Team Is $40 Million

Again look up the definition of exploitation and tell me it doesn't fit. I can't be responsible if you don't know the definition of a word or how said word makes you feel.

Coaches cash in, AD's, Dean's, trainers, tutors, tv Networks, commentators, sports writers, ground keepers, and up until recently people who worked for EA making NCAA.

What type of person am I exactly? One that speaks out against what I think is wrong even though it doesn't benefit me. I can almost assure you you have no clue what type of person I am if you think I base fairness solely around money.

It funny you support someone questioning my character simply because you agree with his argument. I didn't say my lack of beneficial gain made me right.

Again exploitation is define as making profit without sharing. "Paying" student athletes in an inflated scholarships, gifts and benefits is the same as executive producers paying the talent in cars, jewelry and condos while pocketing the money, rights, and royalties.

This isn't woe is me? I never said college life is awful so again don't put your misconceptions in my post. It doesn't matter what college life is like. For one group to make billions and for another to be paid in gifts and in "potential" is exploitation. No matter how you want to tap dance around it.

Dude, you are making a fool of yourself. Just stop.

And really, Ground's Keepers? Trainers? Tutors? - They def shouldn't be cashing in their $35K per year to keep YOUR fields in pristine condition so YOU can play YOUR GAME. The tutors shouldn't be compensated either to keep your stupid *** eligible, and the trainers need not even show up anymore when you can't figure out why your foot hurts.

Maybe the poor souls that have to wash your uniforms and tighten up helmets shouldn't get a dime (many are just interns anyway) because you can do your own laundry. Do you even realize how much time, effort, resources, and bodies already go into your football playing days?

That's not even getting into the administration portion that you mentioned with AD's and marketing departments which go to great lengths in an effort to help put butts in the seats when your team sucks. But it's obvious you don't consider all that because you're busy with your image and complaining about how "exploited" you are.

Amateur athletes are playing for a college which does way more than focus on football/basketball. Athletes are nothing but bodies wearing the name of the school while they get a hell of a lot more perks than the average student. I'll admit that I'm unsure exactly how the sports revenues are precisely distributed (that you feel so entitled to), but it is eventually funneled into new facilities, professor's salaries, campus buildings, the student recreation center, etc. You know - things that make the university run properly, so you actually have somewhere to play?

It's different than the pro's because with the NFL or NBA - there's no ancillary costs that the universities face. No students, teachers, lab equipment, bike paths, rec centers, on & on to take care of and provide for. Just the arena, staff, and players. Once you get to that level, then & only then should you be able to "get yours".

[bkrich83]

Re: EA/CLC Settlement With O'Bannon Team Is $40 Million

You can't blame O'bannon, and Keller for EA not making a game. Lol. All they havr to is keep a helmet on the players vs e, use throwing motions from THE NFLPA contract, and use city names instead of licensed names of the schools. You cantbtelk me they won't save money, and make the game more interesting. Add features for the user to change the names or replace the teams. BUT this tells me EA is lazy and can care less about gaming from the shoes of a consumer, but the profits off naive consumers.

Exp. Teambuilder, Backbreaker, 2K APF,

NES Tecmo Bowl needs to return. Sega messed up sports gaming. I mean when it was electronic arts, they produced good games, but EA got lazy.

I wish Backbreakee would return to consoles and change the camera view.

Anyone?

10 char.

[bkrich83]

Re: EA/CLC Settlement With O'Bannon Team Is $40 Million

And you continue to ignore what I posted? Fact vs your opinion?

Where is your information coming from that AD departments are making billions and exploiting players?

Sorry this fact doesn't fit your opinion.

When did cars, jewelry, and condos become payments? Those are called perks, bonus's, etc... Actors sign contracts with their agents for movies and they can negotiate royalties, perks and bonuses before the movie. Jack Nicholson took a percentage of the royalties for Batman instead of salary. It's called a signed contract. You are really reaching, now.

You've haven't shown us any proof whatsoever regarding AD departments making billions. And I have shown proof that only 10% of the 228 D1 colleges generated enough money to cover their own expenses.

I've asked at least 10 times who's raking in all these billions. Answer has been non-existent.

But hey, it's all about them getting theirs. Common sense and logic be damned. Play the victim card whenever possible, and scream injustice, even when you have it better than 99.9% of the same people in your situation. Makes perfect sense. He's just fighting injustice here.

Absurd.

[BizDevConglomerate]

Anyone?

10 char.

Huh. Maybe i'm slow but what are you saying?

[BizDevConglomerate]

Skimming through these posts reveals the divide in our country. Here we we ate on a sports forum, and the topic being a settlement decided in the court of law for ppl who challenged what they thought wasn't fair.

Everybody here who saw UCLA and Ed O'bannon play lived him. Don't lie. Even if you hated UCLA, and his linky body, and big shirt. Hell my home town drafted him. However, the fact remains he won in the court of law. The problem is some feel he doesn't deserve and the many others. like living in our crooked system, and if you challenge it then your a traitor. No, the ppl here who are wrong and who left us hanging are the companies. The NCAA, and EA Sports. Mostly EA.

The price of education is overrated when opposing them and why they fought, because the profit from them far outweighs their scholarships. It's the same as credit. Compounding interest far outweighs the benefit of the loan.

EA is moving along and saying EFF it. We won't make a game and Keller and O'bannon will be to blame.

What I believe is smart ppl aren't filled with common sense, because their on here saying stating really pompous ignorance.

I respect the work thats producd by the team at EA, but the fact remains nerds don't play sports well. And to reproduce an action that they themselves cannot accomplish is impossible. So EA is taking the high road, they know they don't have the ppl that can produce authentic sports gaming on the next gen platform. Graphics won't cut it. But they used this opportunity to escape. And you smart guys bought it.

It's time jocks learn to design and development of games.

[Swamp Swagger]

Re: EA/CLC Settlement With O'Bannon Team Is $40 Million

So canceled series over $300

Well ill be lol

[eyeamg0dly]

Re: EA/CLC Settlement With O'Bannon Team Is $40 Million

Dude, you are making a fool of yourself. Just stop.

And really, Ground's Keepers? Trainers? Tutors? - They def shouldn't be cashing in their $35K per year to keep YOUR fields in pristine condition so YOU can play YOUR GAME. The tutors shouldn't be compensated either to keep your stupid *** eligible, and the trainers need not even show up anymore when you can't figure out why your foot hurts.

Maybe the poor souls that have to wash your uniforms and tighten up helmets shouldn't get a dime (many are just interns anyway) because you can do your own laundry. Do you even realize how much time, effort, resources, and bodies already go into your football playing days?

That's not even getting into the administration portion that you mentioned with AD's and marketing departments which go to great lengths in an effort to help put butts in the seats when your team sucks. But it's obvious you don't consider all that because you're busy with your image and complaining about how "exploited" you are.

Amateur athletes are playing for a college which does way more than focus on football/basketball. Athletes are nothing but bodies wearing the name of the school while they get a hell of a lot more perks than the average student. I'll admit that I'm unsure exactly how the sports revenues are precisely distributed (that you feel so entitled to), but it is eventually funneled into new facilities, professor's salaries, campus buildings, the student recreation center, etc. You know - things that make the university run properly, so you actually have somewhere to play?

It's different than the pro's because with the NFL or NBA - there's no ancillary costs that the universities face. No students, teachers, lab equipment, bike paths, rec centers, on & on to take care of and provide for. Just the arena, staff, and players. Once you get to that level, then & only then should you be able to "get yours".

so someone who can do something that most HS students cannot do, which is earn a full athletic scholarship is not entitled to earn money on their own? does the NCAA take away that ability to students with a full academic scholarship? What the NCAA has done is very borderline unconstitutional, in fact congress is already said after the MLB steriods hearings, they are going to go after the NCAA and their practices.

I am like you and the majority of college students who can't get either full athletic or academic scholarships. We have to work and go to school full time. Last year the ncaa made around 70 million profit after the 800+ million it took in, mostly from tv contracts. 70 mil profit and yet they wont let athletes have jobs, agent, or any way to make money for themselves. some of these guys have families to feed and debt like we do.

I think we have to stop looking at this from the college pov but between the athetes and the ncaa.