EA Sports Will Not Publish College Football Game Next Year, Future Plans in Doubt

[da ThRONe]

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Who's gonna buy an autographed picture of Johnny Football in street clothes? Who's gonna buy an autographed generic football helmet signed by Johnny Football? Who's gonna buy an autographed generic football jersey by Johnny Football? NOBODY.

The player wouldn't be able to use his university / logo image / and or anything related to it --- IF --- this was to be permitted. And that's a big if. So therefore, the player wouldn't make anything. Why do you think Johnny Football is signing Texas A&M mini helmets instead of a generic one? He needs the school to make money. Because the paying customer is a fan of the school / program -- than of the individual. Because the individual changes every few years (if not year).

Problem not solved.

This is a dumb argument. If Manziel can't generate revenue for himself than problem solved. The problem is he doesn't have the right to even try based on the rules.

The players should have a union to be able to negotiation things like universal healthcare or full scholarship to likeness rights with EA or 2K. Completely separate from the NCAA.

[GoDevils95]

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You should be blaming the NCAA, not the athletes. The NCAA is at fault for violating their IP rights.

The NCAA is an organization comprised of it's members. It's only function is to govern school's athletics programs. The school's elect / appoint members of the NCAA to lead and govern them. Ohio State, Penn State, Florida, Notre Dame, USC, Iowa, Arizona State, Texas A&M, Michigan, Georgia Tech, Harvard, Northwestern, Stanford, Duke, etc... are all the NCAA. When the athlete accepts an athletic scholarship to a given university, they must abide by NCAA laws that govern that scholarship or lose it and their eligibility to participate. Hating on the NCAA is no different than hating on your favorite school. They are the same thing. If you hate the NCAA and you're OSU Buckeye fan....you basically hate OSU too. These ex-players sued EA b/c they could. They couldn't sue the NCAA. Sam Keller couldn't sue ASU or Nebraska. EA was there and unprotected. In all, EA still made out okay on the whole deal -- even though they paid out a large sum. That gig is over now. The players went after the one thing they could and did. All the while, their school allowed them to be "exploited"....which they signed up for when they accepted the scholarship. Once again....all this lawsuit did was say "If the athlete can't get legally paid....nobody else is". How did this help the athlete? That's like saying....if I can't get paid for cutting that strip of lawn over there....I am making sure no landscaper will get paid either. How did this help anything? It didn't. Bitter, lame, washed up ex-athletes. God forbid they go to class and try to better themselves and build something....instead of tearing down something they NEVER were entitled to anyway.

[GoDevils95]

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This is a dumb argument. If Manziel can't generate revenue for himself than problem solved. The problem is he doesn't have the right to even try based on the rules.

The players should have a union to be able to negotiation things like universal healthcare or full scholarship to likeness rights with EA or 2K. Completely separate from the NCAA.

What world do you live in? Union for college athletes? LOL. Are you for real? This isn't a pro league. This is a university. You do realize "UNIONS" are for working people. Do you think "UNIONS" just function out of thin air? You pay dues for a union to pay for all the things they do. Are the college players gonna pay into this union? NFL players pay a hefty sum to their union. As would you if you worked for UPS or a if you were a teacher.

Playing college football is not a job. Why? Because a "job" is defined as providing a service or duty for a fee. Get that last part......a fee. If the NCAA has to pay it's players....they'll drop the programs all together. Do you know why? Read up son.

[loccdogg26]

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They also let current players join the lawsuit. I know some were from Arizona. Right before the season started several coaches were at ESPN and Rich Rod was asked about it on Sportscenter.

[The_Rick_14]

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What world do you live in? Union for college athletes? LOL. Are you for real? This isn't a pro league. This is a university. You do realize "UNIONS" are for working people. Do you think "UNIONS" just function out of thin air? You pay dues for a union to pay for all the things they do. Are the college players gonna pay into this union? NFL players pay a hefty sum to their union. As would you if you worked for UPS or a if you were a teacher.

Playing college football is not a job. Why? Because a "job" is defined as providing a service or duty for a fee. Get that last part......a fee. If the NCAA has to pay it's players....they'll drop the programs all together. Do you know why? Read up son.

You could easily argue that the service they provide is being a member of the team (which includes meetings, practices, games, etc) and the fee or payment they receive through scholarships includes tuition, books, food, housing, clothing, access to fitness facilities, tutoring, etc.

Like a job there is an exchange of value for services rendered.

[GeauxTigers]

How about a parting gift from EA Sports ... patch in the four team playoff (I don't even care how they set up the selection process for the game). I'll pay for that before I spend another $1 on a set of new gloves for a team I may play once in my dynasty.

[GeauxTigers]

How about a parting gift from EA Sports ... patch in the four team playoff (I don't even care how they set up the selection process for the game). I'll pay for that before I spend another $1 on a set of new gloves for a team I may play once in my dynasty.

Also has anyone heard if any of the individuals who've historically done the named rosters after release will continue to do so next year using the same '14 game (no reason this couldn't be done right? schedules wouldn't be accurate; but who cares once you've played the first year in a dynasty).

[Forestman]

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Future plans are in doubt. Does this mean NCAA Football is forever gone? Or does it mean NCAA Football may return and we'll see NCAA Football 16?

Where is the information?

[loccdogg26]

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That whole concept of "amateurism" is just a facade. I say pay em if not let em work.

[BA2929]

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That whole concept of "amateurism" is just a facade. I say pay em if not let em work.

The NCAA should just allow players to get individual endorsements for their likenesses. If they don't want them doing gambling or porn websites and stuff like that, then allow each university to hire a guy who has to approve the endorsement. Then the big name guys like Manziel can get their money and everyone is happy and this silly argument that happens every single year will finally end. Nobody cares that the backup DT for Akron isn't getting paid. It's all about the big name players being able to capitalize on themselves.

[JohnDoe8865]

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Fell asleep on this one....was not aware that if I own NCAA 14 for PS3 and Madden 25 for PS3....I cannot import draft classes from NCAA to Madden? Please tell me I can. Thanks.

I clearly stated next-gen.

EA had said that for example, if you owned PS3 NCAA 14 and bought PS4 M25, you could import draft classes across into the NG version. Then they retracted that.

[RedSoxFox7]

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Who's gonna buy an autographed picture of Johnny Football in street clothes? Who's gonna buy an autographed generic football helmet signed by Johnny Football? Who's gonna buy an autographed generic football jersey by Johnny Football? NOBODY.

The player wouldn't be able to use his university / logo image / and or anything related to it --- IF --- this was to be permitted. And that's a big if. So therefore, the player wouldn't make anything. Why do you think Johnny Football is signing Texas A&M mini helmets instead of a generic one? He needs the school to make money. Because the paying customer is a fan of the school / program -- more so than a fan of the individual -- Because the individual changes every few years (if not every year).

Problem not solved.

You're creating problems that wouldn't really exist.

Manziel could charge to autograph anything. As long as he's not providing the A&M gear, there's absolutely nothing they could do (and even if he were providing it, it's a stretch to say A&M could stop him from doing so if the products were purchased separately). He could also do endorsements in a generic maroon jersey, as long as it's not an official A&M one, and there's nothing they can do about it.

Pro athletes do this all the time. When they do commercials for car dealers or tires shops or donut shops or 90% of the rest of endorsements they do, they're wearing team colors but no official equipment. There's plenty Manziel could do to make money off his image without using anything from A&M.

And that's all ignoring that licensing agreements could most likely be worked out to benefit both the schools and the players without technically being pay for play. This is especially true if there were a player's association formed, which would create a layer of separation between the players and schools.

[RedSoxFox7]

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The NCAA is an organization comprised of it's members. It's only function is to govern school's athletics programs. The school's elect / appoint members of the NCAA to lead and govern them. Ohio State, Penn State, Florida, Notre Dame, USC, Iowa, Arizona State, Texas A&M, Michigan, Georgia Tech, Harvard, Northwestern, Stanford, Duke, etc... are all the NCAA. When the athlete accepts an athletic scholarship to a given university, they must abide by NCAA laws that govern that scholarship or lose it and their eligibility to participate. Hating on the NCAA is no different than hating on your favorite school. They are the same thing. If you hate the NCAA and you're OSU Buckeye fan....you basically hate OSU too. These ex-players sued EA b/c they could. They couldn't sue the NCAA. Sam Keller couldn't sue ASU or Nebraska. EA was there and unprotected. In all, EA still made out okay on the whole deal -- even though they paid out a large sum. That gig is over now. The players went after the one thing they could and did. All the while, their school allowed them to be "exploited"....which they signed up for when they accepted the scholarship. Once again....all this lawsuit did was say "If the athlete can't get legally paid....nobody else is". How did this help the athlete? That's like saying....if I can't get paid for cutting that strip of lawn over there....I am making sure no landscaper will get paid either. How did this help anything? It didn't. Bitter, lame, washed up ex-athletes. God forbid they go to class and try to better themselves and build something....instead of tearing down something they NEVER were entitled to anyway.

This is almost entirely incorrect.

The NCAA is an organization to represent and govern collegiate sports. Decrying the NCAA for its illegal decisions is not calling the entire 1281 school body of NCAA affiliated colleges thieves.

For starters, they did sue the NCAA and that suit is still pending. They only settled with EA and the CLC. They didn't sue the individual schools because the individuals schools weren't responsible for the IP violations, the NCAA is/was.

The players signed up to play football or basketball in exchange for a scholarship. Nowhere in there did they sign away the rights to their likenesses. Nowhere in there did they give up the intellectual property rights to their own image.

They tore down something they were never entitled to? Excuse me? Did you really just suggest an individual has no right to his own image? Are you insane?

The one thing you got right is that this lawsuit was to say "if the athlete can't get paid, nobody can." And that's exactly what should happen. Nobody, not the NCAA, EA, Google, or your next door neighbor should be able to profit on your image without your consent. It's a really basic principle that goes well beyond crying about some video game being discontinued.

[RedSoxFox7]

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What world do you live in? Union for college athletes? LOL. Are you for real? This isn't a pro league. This is a university. You do realize "UNIONS" are for working people. Do you think "UNIONS" just function out of thin air? You pay dues for a union to pay for all the things they do. Are the college players gonna pay into this union? NFL players pay a hefty sum to their union. As would you if you worked for UPS or a if you were a teacher.

Playing college football is not a job. Why? Because a "job" is defined as providing a service or duty for a fee. Get that last part......a fee. If the NCAA has to pay it's players....they'll drop the programs all together. Do you know why? Read up son.

OR, the NCAA simply allows the player to get paid.

If the NCAA allows the players to get paid, then there's plenty of reasons for them to form a union, a player's association, to handle licensing in bulk.

[blkrptnt819]

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Who's gonna buy an autographed picture of Johnny Football in street clothes? Who's gonna buy an autographed generic football helmet signed by Johnny Football? Who's gonna buy an autographed generic football jersey by Johnny Football? NOBODY.

The player wouldn't be able to use his university / logo image / and or anything related to it --- IF --- this was to be permitted. And that's a big if. So therefore, the player wouldn't make anything. Why do you think Johnny Football is signing Texas A&M mini helmets instead of a generic one? He needs the school to make money. Because the paying customer is a fan of the school / program -- more so than a fan of the individual -- Because the individual changes every few years (if not every year).

Problem not solved.

He can sign a picture of himself in a blank #2 Maroon jersey, just like pro athletes wear when they do commercials. Like I said problem solved. Everybody wants these kids who everybody else is making money off of to smile and just take it. I hope they hammer the NCAA and at least get the rule changed so they can get some money in their pocket.