Madden NFL 25 Next-Gen Presentation Trailer (Official)

[DCowboys22]

This isn't a PC-elitest deal. You miss my point entirely. If all they have to offer is great graphics, I am not impressed. My point about graphics is they can be had quite easlily. Great gameplay cannot. Fifa can actually trot out their wares with tons of interviews (which they are already doing) about various gameplay improvements, because they have great game. Wins award after award. Madden is closer to NBA Live/Elite in my book. They have to prove themselves all over again. So I'm looking with "Missouri eyes" at Madden. I get the marketing angle. But they need to show.

My main games are Fifa and NBA2k. They, long with "The Show" are the best sports games out there. Madden isn't as good as them. And one could make an argument that even PES is better. Madden can't just try to be better than NCAA anymore and call it a day. I might get called the "trailer police" or whatever. But I play, and have played, a ton of sports games in my 47 years. I'm just stating my simple opinion. That trailer did nothing to change my attitude about Madden being a second rate sports game. They have a ton of work to make me want to buy a console again, just to play their game. My point, in a nutshell......

I get that. I do, but my only thing is people are ragging Madden for this trailer not showing pretty much every card they hold. Which everyone should know thats not how it works. We cant bash them about gameplay yet when we have no idea if they have an Ace in hand there. We should only be commenting on the trailer,and at least for me, I was pleased with it. Doesnt mean I dont want to know about the rest or have skeptism. It's OK to praise the trailer, it doesnt mean you dont know the game has been underwhelming in the past and needs to step up.

[DCowboys22]

Look fantastic, but should we be worried the game cuts out before any contact animations (Ie: tackling), almost deliberately in every clip. If EA doesn't have enough confidence in their animations/gameplay why should we?

If thats what you get out of this, then I guess 2k14 for next gen has no confidence in any animation cuz they showed next to nothing. And before you go crazy, i know 2k has been great in the past. Im just saying you guys are completely using double standards. We all know you all love to complain about madden, its the cool thing to do around here. but you guys are REACHING. Let the info come out first.

[worstsportsgamer1977]

the current game runs pretty good as it is. i hope aside from the graphical improvements like a more active sideline. where the players are not ghosts. i would like faster load times to the game. smoother transitions to the tackle animations. also(will never happen)replace Phil Simms with a far less annoying commentator.

[DCowboys22]

Lol!!! you are to funny, do you even watch football? How old are you

Im 29 and have played and owned every single madden since 93. I see running and close ups,I see one juke by Johnson and its pretty standard in the NFL you see it every sunday. What would my age even mean? you still havent answered my question.

[Daywalker86]

Am I the only one who feels this footage was a level lower than what we saw in the AP promo?

Graphically AND player motion and animation wise.

I've held off of Madden for NG....but I am underwhelmed so at this point.

[lookatmenow]

I get that. I do, but my only thing is people are ragging Madden for this trailer not showing pretty much every card they hold. Which everyone should know thats not how it works. We cant bash them about gameplay yet when we have no idea if they have an Ace in hand there. We should only be commenting on the trailer,and at least for me, I was pleased with it. Doesnt mean I dont want to know about the rest or have skeptism. It's OK to praise the trailer, it doesnt mean you dont know the game has been underwhelming in the past and needs to step up.

Hey bottom line EA Suck!, You guys can continue to defend this crap!! all you want but it's 2013 not 1999.

The football I watch on Sunday looks nothing like anything EA has ever made ....PERIOD!!

Maybe they should do Tech Mo Bowl or NBA JAM, unrealistic games

[lookatmenow]

Im 29 and have played and owned every single madden since 93. I see running and close ups,I see one juke by Johnson and its pretty standard in the NFL you see it every sunday. What would my age even mean? you still havent answered my question.

Go and rent All PRO 2K8 ... made in 2007 and play that game and after, we can come back to your question later

[BrianFifaFan]

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Some of you guys are just ridiculous. You want EA to just flat out feature dump all in one shot. And because they actually have a marketing plan like every other developer you rip them for not showing every darn thing in 1 trailer. So stupid.

Look up where Fifa, which releases same day and date, is on their marketing. Had a fully playable next gen build back in August in Germany. David Rutter is in full swing with every major mag and gaming site. Has already laid out how the new tech will help with AI, about player avoidance and smarter marking and runs. How now they can have multiple players go up into headers. As well, as the living worlds, etc. Seems Tiburon isn't quite as confident in their product. They aren't hyping for launch. They are trying to build holiday sales. Trying to milk this whole deal out. I stand by my red letters. A great game doesn't need super marketing hype. It sells itself......

[DCowboys22]

Hey bottom line EA Suck!, You guys can continue to defend this crap!! all you want but it's 2013 not 1999.

The football I watch on Sunday looks nothing like anything EA has ever made ....PERIOD!!

Maybe they should do Tech Mo Bowl or NBA JAM, unrealistic games

Haha dude Im not defending anything. Im simply stating that you guys are bashing this game for features and gameplay they havent even revealed yet. I get that the past games havent performed like we all want. But its assinine to watch their first trailer, which showed more footage than the 2k14 trailer, and rag on the fact that they havent shown every single element of their new game in one shot. At least wait for the info to come out before you bash it. Also, if you have zero hope that they might do it right this time around, why the heck are you even here? You clearly arent here to comment on the trailer

[Hassan Darkside]

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Not impressed. Maybe my expectations are too high. Maybe watching the 2k next-gen spot tainted my expectations.

But honestly, I almost can't believe we're about to go through this tired song and dance AGAIN. Everybody remembers the Michael Strahan sacking Donovan McNabb trailer right before this current generation of consoles. The sad part is that it still appears that 8 years later heading into the NEXT generation of consoles, EA hasn't achieved that level of realism yet. On top of it, it looks like the same thing is going to happen based off that sizzle trailer we got during E3.

Sure, very little gameplay has been shown outside of that demo they showed at E3. And I know the "this is the pre-phi-beta-alpha build" song and dance that will definitely go along with that but it honestly doesn't look like the gameplay/graphics of Madden 25 is going to measure up to the E3 trailer.

It honestly looks only marginally improved for next gen and there's a couple things that are holding me back. The fact that they're showing very little gameplay, the fact that the little gameplay they show, even less of it is in real time, most is in slow motion or zoomed all the way in. The parts that aren't (like Jay Cutler's drop), looked very similar to current gen, down to the animations. He looks like he's scurrying back and has no weight to him. The rest are cut scenes. The best parts of the video are the celebrations. The lighting looks similar to current gen and doesn't do enough to toe the lines of photorealism enough for me.

Game will still get my money, which will only be the $10 since I have the current gen version right now. Still too early to draw too many conclusions but right now, haven't been impressed with what I've seen where 2k has shown all of 20 seconds of next gen footage and has my jaw on the floor.

[Dogslax41]

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Am I the only one who feels this footage was a level lower than what we saw in the AP promo?

Graphically AND player motion and animation wise.

I've held off of Madden for NG....but I am underwhelmed so at this point.

Agree 100%. Not sure how no one has mentioned this yet. The AP video looked like a great start to evolving the gameplay. This looked like a completely different game and much more similar to current gen with a couple improvements. Granted you can't tell that much because there's not much gameplay there but you can certainly tell that it does not look like that AP video.

But the 2k next gen trailer comparisons crack me up. 2k showed 40 seconds of cgi and 15 seconds of gameplay. Neither trailer showed anything.

[ghettogeeksta]

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Wonder if those celebrations are cut-scenes? Did they remove the cut-scenes or did they recycle the same old ones from current gen? And it looks like Qb drop back animations have not been touched as it still looks like they are sliding/scooting backwards. And that catch animation at the very end didn't look natural either. Need to see more, need to see raw game-play.

[DCowboys22]

Look up where Fifa, which releases same day and date, is on their marketing. Had a fully playable next gen build back in August in Germany. David Rutter is in full swing with every major mag and gaming site. Has already laid out how the new tech will help with AI, about player avoidance and smarter marking and runs. How now they can have multiple players go up into headers. As well, as the living worlds, etc. Seems Tiburon isn't quite as confident in their product. They aren't hyping for launch. They are trying to build holiday sales. Trying to milk this whole deal out. I stand by my red letters. A great game doesn't need super marketing hype. It sells itself......

Its not about confidence. Do you work for a large corporation? I do, and their moves are driven by profit margins. And bottom line, FIFA is their most profitable sports game because its sold world wide at a much higher clip than Madden which is really relegated to NorthAmerica. Fifa showed at the Germany show BECAUSE it has a huge market in Europe. If Madden did, they'd be there too I can assure you that. Marketing for these game is extremely calculated and it's not simply tied to confidence in their game and which one they think is good. Fifa is obviously going to be first on the docket for them.Its their #1 game. Madden going to Germany is throwing money away.

[StormsWarning]

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give ea there props, and stop hating! for a trailer it looked GREAT! i think the game is going to be great, i think there's alot of people mad that they are stuck playing a older version then what is new out, stop being jealous hearted! ea, is doing a good job, and i think they deserve a hand!

[roadman]

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Not overly whelmed.

I'm going to be looking hard at game play, animations, the new AI and presentation.

Those four categories above need to improve drastically and start moving the needle upward.