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Old 10-01-2013, 01:40 AM   #1
Robrain
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CFM: Best of the Best Players (SPD/ACC, STR, Size) [Madden 25]

I think we've all realized this by now, SPD and ACC are EXTREMELY expensive to upgrade, as is STR.

Need to raise Awareness? Cake-walk. Play-Recognition? Super cheap. Catching? Easy.

Taking this into account, the easiest way to train up some godly players would be to start with the best building blocks, the best underlying structure.

And that's SPD/ACC for most positions, though STR seems to me to be the way to go for O-line (and maybe DT).

Some quick notes (my opinion):

1) Minimum STR you want on O-line is 90. However, I'd say the best-of-the-best has ABOVE 95 STR. I believe the O-linemen with above 95 STR number less than ten.

2) The majority of DT's seem to have 90 or more STR. This is why it's a must for your O-line to have Elite (95+) STR. Similarly, the DT's that I find worth their salt are those who also have 95+ STR.

I skimmed the rosters at the start of CFM, and these are the players that have stood out to me (I mainly was looking at defense). The real key here in most instances is to look for 90+ ACC.

DE:
[RE] SEA - Bruce Irvin - 90SPD/94ACC [6'3" 248] [70STR / 84AGI] [AGE:25]
[RE] MIA - Dion Jordan - 85SPD/94ACC [6'6" 248] [67STR / 86AGI] [AGE:23]
[LE] CIN - Carlos Dunlap - 84SPD/88ACC [6'6" 289] [81STR / 81AGI] [AGE:24]
[RE] CIN - Michael Johnson - 84SPD/92ACC [6'7" 267] [72STR / 83AGI] [AGE:26]
[RE] DET - Ezekiel Ansah - 83SPD/93ACC [6'5" 271] [84STR / 85AGI] [AGE:24]

For reference, J.J. Watt is (77SPD/90ACC/97STR). And 24 years old.

For reference, Ravens RE Haloti Ngata has 98STR, but with just 68SPD/81ACC/70AGI at 6'4" / 330 lbs, and he's 29 years old.

I included Michael Johnson here primarily because I did a franchise trying to make the biggest/fastest LB corps. Wanted them all 6'5", 6'6", or 6'7".

Note: Michael Johnson is a bitch to trade for. Bengals want a TON for him.

Conversely, Carlos Dunlap usually gets put on the trade block by the Bengals as soon as the initial regular season begins, and I believe can usually be had for a 6th Round Pick while he's on the block (or maybe a 6th and 7th, make a separate MANUAL trade offer until you get him, do NOT make an offer via the trade block "Action" screen - if your trade offer from the trade block screen is declined by the CPU, another team's offer will instantly be accepted for the player, whereas via the Manual Trade you can make unlimited offers until the CPU accepts your offer).

Bruce Irvin I think can be gotten for real cheap during the initial preseason. Maybe a 6th, or a 5th, or a pair of 5ths, I forget.

These two guys get an honorable mention because they're freaking 6'8", lol:
[LE] CIN - Margus Hunt - 85SPD/89ACC [6'8" 277] [88STR / 78AGI] [AGE:26]
[DT] TEN - Ropati Pitoitua - 62SPD/74ACC [6'8" 315] [88STR / 62AGI] [AGE:28]

You can actually move them to linebacker during the offseason, if you ever wanted to have two 6'8 Outside Linebackers for some reason, lol.

LB:
[ROLB] TEN - Zaviar Gooden - 90SPD/91ACC [6'1" 234] [74STR / 87AGI]
[AGE:23]
[MLB] TEN - Zach Brown - 88SPD/91ACC [6'1" 242] [63STR / 90AGI] [AGE:23]
[MLB] SD - Donald Butler - 84SPD/93ACC [6'1" 248] [76STR / 84AGI] [AGE:24]
[MLB] NYJ - DeMario Davis - 87SPD/92ACC [6'2" 235] [83STR / 88AGI] [AGE:24]

I didn't include guys like Brian Orakpo (84SPD/92ACC/91STR) because he's 27. I wanted this list mainly to be players that you could build a franchise around for a long time.

DT is a mixed bag because you tend to either have the strong, slow fat guys, or the lower weight weak fast guys. Not a lot of in-between that I've found.

A few notable standouts, imo:

DT:
KC - Dontari Poe - 73SPD/85ACC [6'3" 346] [96STR / 75AGI] [AGE:23]
DET - Ndamukong Suh - 72SPD/87ACC [6'4" 307] [96STR / 82AGI] [AGE:26]
CAR - Star Lotulelei - 61SPD/79ACC [6'2" 311] [96STR / 72AGI] [AGE:23]
CHI - Stephen Paea - 63SPD/77ACC [6'1" 300] [98STR / 54AGI] [AGE:25]
BAL - Terrance Cody - 45SPD/70ACC [6'4" 349] [97STR / 54AGI] [AGE:25]
SD - Cam Thomas - 55SPD/78ACC [6'4" 335] [96STR / 57AGI] [AGE:26]

Those are pretty much ALL the DT's with above 95 STR...Dontari Poe is a VERY nice size/speed/strength blend at DT.

For reference, Vince Wilfork is 6'2" 325lbs, 96STR, 61AGI, 56SPD/79ACC, and 31 years old.

STR is really the only truly relevant stat to me for O-line:

[RT] BAL - Michael Oher - 98 STR - [6'4" 315] [AGE:26]
[RG] DAL - MacKenzy Bernadeau - 98 STR - [6'4" 308] [AGE:27]

[LG] SF - Mike Iupati - 97 STR - [6'5" 331] [AGE:26]
[C] SD - David Molk - 97 STR - [6'2" 288] [AGE:24]

[RT] MIN - Phil Loadholt - 96 STR - [6'8" 343] [AGE:27]
[LT] BAL - Bryant McKinnie - 96 STR - [6'8" / 360] [AGE:33]
[RT] CIN - Andre Smith - 96 STR - [6'4" 335] [AGE:26]
[LT] PHI - Jason Peters - 96 STR - [6'4" 328] [AGE:31]
[LT] OAK - Jared Veldheer - 96 STR - [6'8" 315] [AGE:26]
[LT] STL - Jake Long - 96 STR - [6'7" 317] [AGE:28]
[LG] TB - Carl Nicks - 96 STR - [6'5" 343] [AGE:28]
[RG] BUF - Kraig Urbik - 96 STR - [6'5" 324] [AGE: 27]
[RG] DEN - Louis Vasquez - 96 STR - [6'5" 335] [AGE:26]
[RG] NO - Jahri Evans - 96 STR - [6'4" 318] [AGE:30]

NYG RG Michael Jasper gets an honorable mention for being 375 lbs (94 STR).

That's it. 14 O-linemen in the entire NFL with over 95 STR.

C David Molk is the only one under 26 years old, unfortunately. Which means if you put together a group of the above linemen via trade, they won't have a significantly long lifespan before they hit their decline phase.

Funny enough, C David Molk consistently gets cut during the preseason by the CPU. I believe he's available to sign as a FA usually during Week 4 of the preseason.

So when I tell you that storyline draft player DeAndre King has 99 STR as a DT for his good storyline after lifting that car, now you know how rare that is.

Ransford Blake (non-storyline draft player) is an O-line player (I think a guard) who has 98 STR.

If I've missed a player, reply to this thread and add 'em here!

If you encounter a player with Elite stats (STR/SPD/ACC) that fits this mold, add 'em here!

Note: I didn't list the top STR DE's because I felt a speed combo was more important usually with that position. But if someone wants to take the time and list all the 95+ STR DE's, feel free.
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