Madden NFL 25 Next-Gen Presentation Trailer (Official)

[Big FN Deal]

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That is on ESPN, EA can only do so much. Yes, the video above is next-gen. However, I wouldn't look at it. The quality is awful (Just look at the blurry intro) and the gameplay seems sped up to fit the gameplay into the segment.

So it should be completely ignored due to the encoding issues, even though ESPN nor EA have made the same video with the correct coding available to the public? It doesn't make sense to accept a trailer as a replacement for an actually game play video with awful quality, what makes sense is that EA, ESPN or both replace it with a higher quality version of the same game play video.

[Kevin26385]

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So it should be completely ignored due to the encoding issues, even though ESPN nor EA have made the same video with the correct coding available to the public? It doesn't make sense to accept a trailer as a replacement for an actually game play video with awful quality, what makes sense is that EA, ESPN or both replace it with a higher quality version of the same game play video.

Just my opinion. I am not going to watch the ESPN video because it doesn't look like what I will be playing in November.

Also, both are gameplay videos...

EDIT: I agree, I would love to see the same video in the highest quality possible. However, you can't be naive to how big a big company like ESPN runs social media. They will NEVER delete that video and upload a new one. It just won't happen.

[kehlis]

Madden NFL 25 Next-Gen Presentation Trailer (Official)

So it should be completely ignored due to the encoding issues, even though ESPN nor EA have made the same video with the correct coding available to the public? It doesn't make sense to accept a trailer as a replacement for an actually game play video with awful quality, what makes sense is that EA, ESPN or both replace it with a higher quality version of the same game play video.

Hey Big,

If you would like to or have the desire to do so please start a thread comparing that other video which we now know to be next gen.

That other thread that is now closed was agenda filled and not necessary and is not going to be reopened but I wouldn't mind at all a discussion on the variances of the two videos as long as it's done with productive thoughts in mind.

[NicVirtue]

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I don't understand what video quality or encoding has to do with the gameplay looking exactly like current gen....you can't encode next gen madden gameplay video to look like current gen madden gameplay. Graphics? Sure. But gameplay doesn't change due to video encoding. If the 1st video is indeed next gen Madden, I will not touch it. That better be WiiU gameplay.

[Demoncrom]

I can totally agree with that. Whats crazy is that the E3 trailer showed more life life/humanistic movement, but seeing what was shown today just looked like the same current gen movements, just smoother. I think what they do with the mo-cap team is tell them to over exaggerate everything so it looks "cool" instead of realistic. Madden has always been more of a "highlight" football kind of game, more than a gritty, controlled chaos type of game.

The graphics of this are NO WHERE NEAR the renders from E3:

http://www.operationsports.com/media/1069/madden-nfl-25/screenshot-24528

[Big FN Deal]

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Just my opinion. I am not going to watch the ESPN video because it doesn't look like what I will be playing in November.

Also, both are gameplay videos...

EDIT: I agree, I would love to see the same video in the highest quality possible. However, you can't be naive to how big a big company like ESPN runs social media. They will NEVER delete that video and upload a new one. It just won't happen.

C'mon man, obviously this video didn't appear out of thin air so it would seem easy enough for EA Sports to get this same video and upload it encoding correctly to the public. No offense man but I don't get this seeming loyalty or instinct to defend mistakes, regardless of how anyone feels about the game or EA as a whole. I'm a life long Redskins fan but I don't feel the need to justify or defend whatever the front office or players do because of that.

Also I just realized that you mentioned being "naive" in reference to my statement, that's ironic considering that's how buying into this whole game play trailer distraction and ignoring the MNF video seems to me.

[BenjiA]

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Also, camera men would all look the same and the crowd would not be 3D

[BenjiA]

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Right encoding doesnt create new camera men

[tfer717]

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the saints vs dolphins video was next gen?? were encoding problems the reason for the same animations?... how about the same qb dropbacks... td celebrations... everything! i can't believe what I'm seeing

[NicVirtue]

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The graphics of this are NO WHERE NEAR the renders from E3:

http://www.operationsports.com/media...reenshot-24528

Then what is it from? It's obviously NOT current gen, cause last time I checked, my copy of current Madden looks NOTHING like the 1st video in terms of texture, lighting, and overall graphics. So if the 1st video was already said to be next gen by Sports Center and it still says that if I'm not mistaken, then why is it not possible for it to actually what we will be getting next month? I mean I can see the differences between the 1st and second video, but if both are said to be next gen, then somebody's giving us the run around.

[Dogslax41]

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Then what is it from? It's obviously NOT current gen, cause last time I checked, my copy of current Madden looks NOTHING like the 1st video in terms of texture, lighting, and overall graphics. So if the 1st video was already said to be next gen by Sports Center and it still says that if I'm not mistaken, then why is it not possible for it to actually what we will be getting next month? I mean I can see the differences between the 1st and second video, but if both are said to be next gen, then somebody's giving us the run around.

I think you are missing his point. He is saying as much as EA is hyping the graphics right now, they still appear to be worse than what they showed at E3.

[SageInfinite]

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Then what is it from? It's obviously NOT current gen, cause last time I checked, my copy of current Madden looks NOTHING like the 1st video in terms of texture, lighting, and overall graphics. So if the 1st video was already said to be next gen by Sports Center and it still says that if I'm not mistaken, then why is it not possible for it to actually what we will be getting next month? I mean I can see the differences between the 1st and second video, but if both are said to be next gen, then somebody's giving us the run around.

The colors and quality of the textures will more than likely be like the presentation video. The animations and in game elements will be like the Dolphins Saints video. That is next gen footage. The footage was just of bad quality.

[NicVirtue]

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I think you are missing his point. He is saying as much as EA is hyping the graphics right now, they still appear to be worse than what they showed at E3.

Ahh, if that is the case then apologies. To my knowledge some of the E3 footage were games running on PC's instead of the consoles. I'm not surprised at all.

[Kevin26385]

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C'mon man, obviously this video didn't appear out of thin air so it would seem easy enough for EA Sports to get this same video and upload it encoding correctly to the public. No offense man but I don't get this seeming loyalty or instinct to defend mistakes, regardless of how anyone feels about the game or EA as a whole. I'm a life long Redskins fan but I don't feel the need to justify or defend whatever the front office or players do because of that.

Also I just realized that you mentioned being "naive" in reference to my statement, that's ironic considering that's how buying into this whole game play trailer distraction and ignoring the MNF video seems to me.

This is going to be my last post in this thread as I want to keep it on topic about the next-gen presentation trailer. I have been apart of this community for 10 years and I don't appreciate your comment about me defending mistakes. I have an optimistic attitude about everything in life. That is just who I am.

Personally, I will not judge the ESPN video. Why? Because it was encoded incorrectly and does not represent how the game actually looks. Also, I would never judge a commercial or anything from ESPN in terms of gameplay. This is for entertainment purposes. My guess is the game is captured on Rookie or Pro in order to capture the best highlights.

Lastly, look into how big organizations run social media. ESPN will not delete this video and upload a new one. EA SPORTS will not upload the same video on their channel with the correct encoding.

[tfer717]

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it literally looks like its 95% ported over from the 360/ps3 generation. Graphically it looks different.. (i wouldnt say better).. but just different. Textures are a bit improved obviously. but omg the gameplay looks identical. Stiff animations and all. I nearly turned it off when I saw the same endzone celebrations. Identical to what we have now. I just dont get it