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Re: NBA 2K14 Next-Gen TV Spot
Its no use talking Logic with a few of those Live guys trolling the 2k forum they have already made up their minds with little to no info that Live is the better game.Last edited by coolcras7; 10-01-2013, 01:58 PM.PSN=Coolcas7Comment
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But that's why I'm optimistic. They are using the same name, and got a loan from the same bank, but it's not the same restaurant. New chefs and a new menu have the potential to make a delicious meal. Whether they use the same ingredients and recipes remains to be seen. But look at 'Kitchen Nightmares' with Gordon Ramsey. He takes complete dumps with disgusting food and unclean habits and turns them into popular restaurants with quality food and practices. New leadership on the Live team may be able to do the same. I know about the 'Chinese restaurants serve cats/dogs' thing. I was more referring to the 'screaming in the back' part, as if you have evidence, or can hear/see bad things happening behind the scenes.
Foot planting has been more an issue in Live than 2k. For 2k, I'm more concerned about clipping/morphing (player interaction), AI, and ball awareness. I've always found Live to have better AI (players cutting to the basket when there's an opening, not clogging the lane on isolations, etc.), but the player movement is generally lackluster and in a lot of cases, not very responsive to user input. That's one of the main reasons I'm optimistic about the new version; they have worked on player control (at least on offense).Anyway, to temper expectations, I do expect next-gen 2k to exhibit some of the same foot planting issues as current gen 2k. I see a bit of that in the video already. The gameplay will be solid 2k14 gameplay, hopefully further enhanced on next-gen, but will look phenomenally better. For what it's worth, I don't think Live will do much better in the foot planting area except for the ball handler-- you can see a lot of twitchy animations in the background of every player not named Kyrie. EA tried hard to edit them out of the shot where possible but some of it actually looks quite bad. The foot planting issue is not solved in either franchise yet.Comment
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Foot planting isn't "solved" in ANY highly interactive game. Games that let you watch characters walk around as you wait for a sequence to finish have "solved" it. But for any game to all the characters a certain degree of freedom in movement and actions, you will see feet sliding. If people have expectations to see this suddenly disappear, they are quite naive and ignorant. If it were easy to solve, it would have been solved a long time ago.Comment
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Oh, I know that. Which is why I'm somewhat tolerant momentum affects and control that isn't instantly responsive (because that's also unrealistic). There has been work where foot planting was acheived but it's often klunky.Foot planting isn't "solved" in ANY highly interactive game. Games that let you watch characters walk around as you wait for a sequence to finish have "solved" it. But for any game to all the characters a certain degree of freedom in movement and actions, you will see feet sliding. If people have expectations to see this suddenly disappear, they are quite naive and ignorant. If it were easy to solve, it would have been solved a long time ago.
At any rate, it can definitely be improved, even if it's being "faked". I have to concede that the E3 Kyrie dribbling demo makes the foot sliding not so obvious whereas it's a problem in 2K even when dribbling while mostly stationary.Comment
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First. It's the SAME recipes! And the food was not delicious. That's why they shut down. I'm not saying I agree one way or the other, but your logic is just SO broken, it's sheer comedy.
Believe everything you see on TV huh?But look at 'Kitchen Nightmares' with Gordon Ramsey. He takes complete dumps with disgusting food and unclean habits and turns them into popular restaurants with quality food and practices.Comment
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Don't misunderstand - I was agreeing with you 100%.Oh, I know that. Which is why I'm somewhat tolerant momentum affects and control that isn't instantly responsive (because that's also unrealistic). There has been work where foot planting was acheived but it's often klunky.
At any rate, it can definitely be improved, even if it's being "faked". I have to concede that the E3 Kyrie dribbling demo makes the foot sliding not so obvious whereas it's a problem in 2K even when dribbling while mostly stationary.Comment
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Yeah, I got that. I do think they should continue to pursue it and make it better. It's one of the holy grails of interactive gaming. There are games that hide it rather well or have partially solved it-- I think the Ignite engine reduces the sliding somewhat. 2K is actually somewhat bad in the sliding department.Comment
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We don't know that yet. I'm sure they borrowed some things, but until we actually see/play the real thing, no one can be sure. It's all speculation until then.
I was using it as an example. Maybe not a great one, but I was just trying to stick with the restaurant analogy lol.Believe everything you see on TV huh?Comment
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Heh. Mike Wang was EA's Gordan Ramsey. When he left, they hired the manager of Taco Bell who then burned the establishment to the ground.
Now they have one of the old cooks running the place, but at least he knows what the food's supposed to taste like.Comment
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I mentioned it in the Live forum when this point was brought up and don't think I got an answer. Can you tell me what's different about EA as a company? You keep talking about new chefs in the kitchen and all this stuff, but if the owner of the restaurant doesn't want the guys cooking things a certain way because he thinks something else will bring in more consumers, then it doesn't matter if Wolfgang Puck, Gordon Ramsey, Chef Boyardee, Mrs. Butterworth, the Swedish Chef from the Muppets or the chick from the Popeye's commercials are all back there slaving away we'll get exactly what we've gotten from NBA Live circa 2006 -2010.Comment
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so you like the stiff and lagg in your gameplay, cause that what was still present for them, they could hide it, even though they tried!LBJ scooping the loose ball is the best animation I've seen from 2k in the trailers. Other animations seem eerily similar to CG.
I like the Live animations I've seen, except the Kyrie finger roll which they didn't finish.
It's obviously way early at this point 5v5 will show everything.Comment
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