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  • Boilerbuzz
    D* B**rs!
    • Jul 2002
    • 5154

    #526
    Re: NBA 2K14 Next-Gen TV Spot

    Originally posted by suspectms
    Nba Live has real wingspan, fit jerseys, and lean and slim lifelike models.
    I try not to respond to trolls, but where did you hear Live has wingspan in the game?

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    • Boilerbuzz
      D* B**rs!
      • Jul 2002
      • 5154

      #527
      Re: NBA 2K14 Next-Gen TV Spot

      Originally posted by Skopin
      I'm optimistic about Live because I haven't seen how it looks or plays from a gameplay perspective.
      I'm sorry, but this bit of logic, in my opinion, is the most BROKEN bit of logic I've seen on these message boards.

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      • coolcras7
        MVP
        • Sep 2009
        • 2337

        #528
        Re: NBA 2K14 Next-Gen TV Spot

        Originally posted by Boilerbuzz
        I'm sorry, but this bit of logic, in my opinion, is the most BROKEN bit of logic I've seen on these message boards.
        Its no use talking Logic with a few of those Live guys trolling the 2k forum they have already made up their minds with little to no info that Live is the better game.
        Last edited by coolcras7; 10-01-2013, 01:58 PM.
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        • Skopin
          Banned
          • Aug 2010
          • 307

          #529
          Re: NBA 2K14 Next-Gen TV Spot

          Originally posted by Sundown
          Lol. What I am saying is that Live, the "new" restaurant, has been closed because it's been preparing sketchy food while advertising a gourmet menu. It's an old joke that Chinese restaurants secretly serve cats and dogs.
          But that's why I'm optimistic. They are using the same name, and got a loan from the same bank, but it's not the same restaurant. New chefs and a new menu have the potential to make a delicious meal. Whether they use the same ingredients and recipes remains to be seen. But look at 'Kitchen Nightmares' with Gordon Ramsey. He takes complete dumps with disgusting food and unclean habits and turns them into popular restaurants with quality food and practices. New leadership on the Live team may be able to do the same. I know about the 'Chinese restaurants serve cats/dogs' thing. I was more referring to the 'screaming in the back' part, as if you have evidence, or can hear/see bad things happening behind the scenes.

          Anyway, to temper expectations, I do expect next-gen 2k to exhibit some of the same foot planting issues as current gen 2k. I see a bit of that in the video already. The gameplay will be solid 2k14 gameplay, hopefully further enhanced on next-gen, but will look phenomenally better. For what it's worth, I don't think Live will do much better in the foot planting area except for the ball handler-- you can see a lot of twitchy animations in the background of every player not named Kyrie. EA tried hard to edit them out of the shot where possible but some of it actually looks quite bad. The foot planting issue is not solved in either franchise yet.
          Foot planting has been more an issue in Live than 2k. For 2k, I'm more concerned about clipping/morphing (player interaction), AI, and ball awareness. I've always found Live to have better AI (players cutting to the basket when there's an opening, not clogging the lane on isolations, etc.), but the player movement is generally lackluster and in a lot of cases, not very responsive to user input. That's one of the main reasons I'm optimistic about the new version; they have worked on player control (at least on offense).

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          • Boilerbuzz
            D* B**rs!
            • Jul 2002
            • 5154

            #530
            Re: NBA 2K14 Next-Gen TV Spot

            Originally posted by Sundown
            The foot planting issue is not solved in either franchise yet.
            Foot planting isn't "solved" in ANY highly interactive game. Games that let you watch characters walk around as you wait for a sequence to finish have "solved" it. But for any game to all the characters a certain degree of freedom in movement and actions, you will see feet sliding. If people have expectations to see this suddenly disappear, they are quite naive and ignorant. If it were easy to solve, it would have been solved a long time ago.

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            • Sundown
              MVP
              • Oct 2010
              • 3270

              #531
              Re: NBA 2K14 Next-Gen TV Spot

              Originally posted by Boilerbuzz
              Foot planting isn't "solved" in ANY highly interactive game. Games that let you watch characters walk around as you wait for a sequence to finish have "solved" it. But for any game to all the characters a certain degree of freedom in movement and actions, you will see feet sliding. If people have expectations to see this suddenly disappear, they are quite naive and ignorant. If it were easy to solve, it would have been solved a long time ago.
              Oh, I know that. Which is why I'm somewhat tolerant momentum affects and control that isn't instantly responsive (because that's also unrealistic). There has been work where foot planting was acheived but it's often klunky.

              At any rate, it can definitely be improved, even if it's being "faked". I have to concede that the E3 Kyrie dribbling demo makes the foot sliding not so obvious whereas it's a problem in 2K even when dribbling while mostly stationary.

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              • Boilerbuzz
                D* B**rs!
                • Jul 2002
                • 5154

                #532
                Re: NBA 2K14 Next-Gen TV Spot

                Originally posted by Skopin
                But that's why I'm optimistic. They are using the same name, and got a loan from the same bank, but it's not the same restaurant. New chefs and a new menu have the potential to make a delicious meal. Whether they use the same ingredients and recipes remains to be seen.
                First. It's the SAME recipes! And the food was not delicious. That's why they shut down. I'm not saying I agree one way or the other, but your logic is just SO broken, it's sheer comedy.

                But look at 'Kitchen Nightmares' with Gordon Ramsey. He takes complete dumps with disgusting food and unclean habits and turns them into popular restaurants with quality food and practices.
                Believe everything you see on TV huh?

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                • Boilerbuzz
                  D* B**rs!
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 5154

                  #533
                  Re: NBA 2K14 Next-Gen TV Spot

                  Originally posted by Sundown
                  Oh, I know that. Which is why I'm somewhat tolerant momentum affects and control that isn't instantly responsive (because that's also unrealistic). There has been work where foot planting was acheived but it's often klunky.

                  At any rate, it can definitely be improved, even if it's being "faked". I have to concede that the E3 Kyrie dribbling demo makes the foot sliding not so obvious whereas it's a problem in 2K even when dribbling while mostly stationary.
                  Don't misunderstand - I was agreeing with you 100%.

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                  • RoyalBoyle78
                    Aka."Footballforever"
                    • May 2003
                    • 23918

                    #534
                    Re: NBA 2K14 Next-Gen TV Spot

                    Originally posted by greenegt
                    Makes it kind of hard to go pick up my current gen version, tomorrow. LOL.
                    I have been good, I havent bought anything new at all, no Madden, No NB2k14, I waiting for the ONE with my pr-orders. Makes no sense.
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                    • Sundown
                      MVP
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 3270

                      #535
                      Re: NBA 2K14 Next-Gen TV Spot

                      Originally posted by Boilerbuzz
                      Don't misunderstand - I was agreeing with you 100%.
                      Yeah, I got that. I do think they should continue to pursue it and make it better. It's one of the holy grails of interactive gaming. There are games that hide it rather well or have partially solved it-- I think the Ignite engine reduces the sliding somewhat. 2K is actually somewhat bad in the sliding department.

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                      • Skopin
                        Banned
                        • Aug 2010
                        • 307

                        #536
                        Re: NBA 2K14 Next-Gen TV Spot

                        Originally posted by Boilerbuzz
                        First. It's the SAME recipes! And the food was not delicious. That's why they shut down. I'm not saying I agree one way or the other, but your logic is just SO broken, it's sheer comedy.
                        We don't know that yet. I'm sure they borrowed some things, but until we actually see/play the real thing, no one can be sure. It's all speculation until then.

                        Believe everything you see on TV huh?
                        I was using it as an example. Maybe not a great one, but I was just trying to stick with the restaurant analogy lol.

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                        • Sundown
                          MVP
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 3270

                          #537
                          Re: NBA 2K14 Next-Gen TV Spot

                          Originally posted by Skopin
                          I was using it as an example. Maybe not a great one, but I was just trying to stick with the restaurant analogy lol.
                          Heh. Mike Wang was EA's Gordan Ramsey. When he left, they hired the manager of Taco Bell who then burned the establishment to the ground.

                          Now they have one of the old cooks running the place, but at least he knows what the food's supposed to taste like.

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                          • King_B_Mack
                            All Star
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 24451

                            #538
                            Re: NBA 2K14 Next-Gen TV Spot

                            I mentioned it in the Live forum when this point was brought up and don't think I got an answer. Can you tell me what's different about EA as a company? You keep talking about new chefs in the kitchen and all this stuff, but if the owner of the restaurant doesn't want the guys cooking things a certain way because he thinks something else will bring in more consumers, then it doesn't matter if Wolfgang Puck, Gordon Ramsey, Chef Boyardee, Mrs. Butterworth, the Swedish Chef from the Muppets or the chick from the Popeye's commercials are all back there slaving away we'll get exactly what we've gotten from NBA Live circa 2006 -2010.

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                            • mlp111
                              MVP
                              • Jul 2010
                              • 1291

                              #539
                              Re: NBA 2K14 Next-Gen TV Spot

                              Originally posted by boltokPwnage04
                              LBJ scooping the loose ball is the best animation I've seen from 2k in the trailers. Other animations seem eerily similar to CG.

                              I like the Live animations I've seen, except the Kyrie finger roll which they didn't finish.

                              It's obviously way early at this point 5v5 will show everything.
                              so you like the stiff and lagg in your gameplay, cause that what was still present for them, they could hide it, even though they tried!

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                              • NBASLAM2001
                                Pro
                                • Mar 2003
                                • 669

                                #540
                                Re: NBA 2K14 Next-Gen TV Spot

                                Originally posted by Earl1963
                                I will check this game out, but to me it looks the same graphically as current gen.
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