Re: Madden NFL 25 Screenshots - Next-Gen vs. Current-Gen Comparisons
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^^^ Two different light directions here (Next Gen in direct sunlight, current in either a shadow/different time of day/cloud or overcast setting), so the comparison is ineffective.
^^^Similar issue as the first
^^^ Neglible, arguably indistinguishable. Also light direction is different with the Next Gen one shown being hit by direct sunlight with the current gen not.
I'm not saying that the way these photos are being presented that it's deliberate, but the recurring theme is that almost all of the comparisons show the Next Gen in bright direct light and Current gen in a darker setting which would naturally make the Next Gen photos appears head and shoulders above the Current, but that's misleading.
The reality is, the graphical leap is minor and people are trying hard to convince themselves it's not.
Also, that Dez Bryant photo is still wrong. Dez is darker than that, but Tiburon has failed on skin colors for like, forever, so I'm not surprised. I'm actually shocked they got the 49ers helmet color right.
Now let's dig deeper:
Madden 06 XBOX 360
^^^That looks absolutely AMAZING. And let's be real, if I didn't tell you it was Madden 06 you could be convinced it's Madden 25 for Next Gen based on what we've seen from Next Gen so far. See the problem here?
Madden 25 Next Gen
^^^ Looks good, sure, but I don't see where that looks better than either of the Madden 06 pics, in fact I think the Madden 06 stadium pics look better.
Madden 07 360
Look at the 3D grass. Does Madden 25 Next Gen's look much better? I say they look about the same. And yes, the players models here are not as detailed, but look at the crowd. Are you telling me that crowd doesn't look as good as what they've shown us of Madden 25 for Next Gen? Ha!
Upclose faces and Helmets
Madden 06 Face
^^^ This is in a darker time/cloud cast setting than the next pic. And keep in mind that this was captured in a lower res with lesser hardware/software 8 years ago than what we capture vids and photos with now. Looks stunning.
Madden 25 Next Gen Face
^^^ Good, but is this REALLY much better than the Madden 06 shot of Drew Brees? I say no. Some might argue that the M06 pic looks more "real".
All Pro Football 2K8 Face (Just for good measure)
Madden 25 Next Gen Jersey Textures Vs. All Pro Football 2K8
^^^Not even as close-up as the Madden pic, but look at that jersey detail? The stitching and all. It's really incredible. Now, of course APF looked like crap from a distance, but upclose you have to give it its just due. And certainly, Madden Next Gen's jersey's don't look as detailed which I feel is unacceptable given that APF was made so long ago and on considerably inferior hardware.
When it's all said done, gameplay is the most important thing and we have to see (with understandably little or no faith they'll deliver) 11-on-11 gameplay video. But if Tiburon is trying to sell us on graphics, they're not doing a good job. It's not bad, it's just not much of a leap. I also find it irresponsible that they would allot so much graphical resource to GRASS when that should've been toned down and spent more aggressively on the player models. What were they thinking???
When I see this:
I "FEEL" that Next Gen energy just emanating from it. When I look at Madden 25 for XB1 and PS4, I just get a vibe of "Been there, done that, not interested anymore". I dunno, Tiburon had a minute to wow me and they failed to do what 2K did for me in 6 seconds and I'm in the minority on that feeling. And the kicker is, I HATE basketball! But how can I NOT try this game?
Madden is in A LOT of trouble right now.
[QUOTE=Steve_OS;2045517240]
^^^ Two different light directions here (Next Gen in direct sunlight, current in either a shadow/different time of day/cloud or overcast setting), so the comparison is ineffective.
^^^Similar issue as the first
^^^ Neglible, arguably indistinguishable. Also light direction is different with the Next Gen one shown being hit by direct sunlight with the current gen not.
I'm not saying that the way these photos are being presented that it's deliberate, but the recurring theme is that almost all of the comparisons show the Next Gen in bright direct light and Current gen in a darker setting which would naturally make the Next Gen photos appears head and shoulders above the Current, but that's misleading.
The reality is, the graphical leap is minor and people are trying hard to convince themselves it's not.
Also, that Dez Bryant photo is still wrong. Dez is darker than that, but Tiburon has failed on skin colors for like, forever, so I'm not surprised. I'm actually shocked they got the 49ers helmet color right.
Now let's dig deeper:
Madden 06 XBOX 360
^^^That looks absolutely AMAZING. And let's be real, if I didn't tell you it was Madden 06 you could be convinced it's Madden 25 for Next Gen based on what we've seen from Next Gen so far. See the problem here?
Madden 25 Next Gen
^^^ Looks good, sure, but I don't see where that looks better than either of the Madden 06 pics, in fact I think the Madden 06 stadium pics look better.
Madden 07 360
Look at the 3D grass. Does Madden 25 Next Gen's look much better? I say they look about the same. And yes, the players models here are not as detailed, but look at the crowd. Are you telling me that crowd doesn't look as good as what they've shown us of Madden 25 for Next Gen? Ha!
Upclose faces and Helmets
Madden 06 Face
^^^ This is in a darker time/cloud cast setting than the next pic. And keep in mind that this was captured in a lower res with lesser hardware/software 8 years ago than what we capture vids and photos with now. Looks stunning.
Madden 25 Next Gen Face
^^^ Good, but is this REALLY much better than the Madden 06 shot of Drew Brees? I say no. Some might argue that the M06 pic looks more "real".
All Pro Football 2K8 Face (Just for good measure)
Madden 25 Next Gen Jersey Textures Vs. All Pro Football 2K8
^^^Not even as close-up as the Madden pic, but look at that jersey detail? The stitching and all. It's really incredible. Now, of course APF looked like crap from a distance, but upclose you have to give it its just due. And certainly, Madden Next Gen's jersey's don't look as detailed which I feel is unacceptable given that APF was made so long ago and on considerably inferior hardware.
When it's all said done, gameplay is the most important thing and we have to see (with understandably little or no faith they'll deliver) 11-on-11 gameplay video. But if Tiburon is trying to sell us on graphics, they're not doing a good job. It's not bad, it's just not much of a leap. I also find it irresponsible that they would allot so much graphical resource to GRASS when that should've been toned down and spent more aggressively on the player models. What were they thinking???
When I see this:
I "FEEL" that Next Gen energy just emanating from it. When I look at Madden 25 for XB1 and PS4, I just get a vibe of "Been there, done that, not interested anymore". I dunno, Tiburon had a minute to wow me and they failed to do what 2K did for me in 6 seconds and I'm in the minority on that feeling. And the kicker is, I HATE basketball! But how can I NOT try this game?
Madden is in A LOT of trouble right now.
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