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  • EAGLESFAN10
    MVP
    • Nov 2011
    • 2356

    #496
    Re: EA Sports Will Not Publish College Football Game Next Year, Future Plans in Doubt

    I wanna go back to the player Likeness

    I never understood why players in college didn't like people using their likeness BUT as soon as they go to NFL and they are in the game they are in AWWW to see themselves in the game ..... I just never understood that
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    • ACardAttack
      Pro
      • Jul 2005
      • 715

      #497
      Re: EA Sports Will Not Publish College Football Game Next Year, Future Plans in Doubt

      Originally posted by EAGLESFAN10
      I wanna go back to the player Likeness

      I never understood why players in college didn't like people using their likeness BUT as soon as they go to NFL and they are in the game they are in AWWW to see themselves in the game ..... I just never understood that
      They get payed for being in Madden

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      • EAGLESFAN10
        MVP
        • Nov 2011
        • 2356

        #498
        Re: EA Sports Will Not Publish College Football Game Next Year, Future Plans in Doubt

        Originally posted by ACardAttack
        They get payed for being in Madden
        But I would take it as a Honor to be featured in a game but that's just me
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        • superxero27
          Pro
          • May 2006
          • 687

          #499
          Re: EA Sports Will Not Publish College Football Game Next Year, Future Plans in Doubt

          Originally posted by BA2929
          The NCAA should just allow players to get individual endorsements for their likenesses. If they don't want them doing gambling or porn websites and stuff like that, then allow each university to hire a guy who has to approve the endorsement. Then the big name guys like Manziel can get their money and everyone is happy and this silly argument that happens every single year will finally end. Nobody cares that the backup DT for Akron isn't getting paid. It's all about the big name players being able to capitalize on themselves.
          As a regular college student, if someone wanted to pay me money for my autograph I could take it, no problem. If somebody wanted signed copies of the university-published research reports I did as a grad student, that would be no problem.

          I understand how paying players formally or via boosters open up huge worm cans for the NCAA, as well as the whole tangled mess that agents bring in, but what exactly would be the problem with allowing student athletes to profit from their likeness the same way as any other student could?

          If agents are the concern, simply add some groundrules: you can profit from your likeness with X exceptions...
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          • ACardAttack
            Pro
            • Jul 2005
            • 715

            #500
            Re: EA Sports Will Not Publish College Football Game Next Year, Future Plans in Doubt

            Originally posted by EAGLESFAN10
            But I would take it as a Honor to be featured in a game but that's just me
            As would I!

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            • coogrfan
              In Fritz We Trust
              • Jul 2002
              • 15646

              #501
              Re: EA Sports Will Not Publish College Football Game Next Year, Future Plans in Doubt

              Originally posted by ACardAttack
              As would I!
              I would say that by far the vast majority of cfb players over the years would have felt the same way. It wasn't until some scheming lawyer started whispering in the ears of a few disgruntled former players that they were being "exploited" that this became an issue. The real irony in all of this is that the only people who will wind up making any serious money out of this suit are the attorneys themselves.
              Last edited by coogrfan; 10-02-2013, 11:26 AM.

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              • da ThRONe
                Fire LesS Miles ASAP!
                • Mar 2009
                • 8543

                #502
                Re: EA Sports Will Not Publish College Football Game Next Year, Future Plans in Doubt

                Originally posted by EAGLESFAN10
                But I would take it as a Honor to be featured in a game but that's just me
                That's cool, but you should have a say in the matter.

                Some people donate time, money, and items to charity, however charity isn't and shouldn't be mandatory.
                You looking at the Chair MAN!

                Number may not tell the whole story ,but they never lie either.

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                • RedSoxFox7
                  Banned
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 252

                  #503
                  Re: EA Sports Will Not Publish College Football Game Next Year, Future Plans in Doubt

                  Originally posted by coogrfan
                  I would say that by far the vast majority of cfb players over the years would have felt the same way. It wasn't until some scheming lawyer started whispering in the eras of a bunch of disgruntled former players that they were being "exploited" that this became an issue. The real irony in all of this is that the only people who will wind up making any serious money out of this suit are the attorneys themselves.
                  That's still the case today, but that doesn't change the fact they should be consulted first, and they should have to give consent second.

                  If you went to the 11,000 some odd FBS football players and asked them if they wanted to be in NCAA Football 15, officially, you'd probably get 90-95% of them just doing it to get their real name and face in the game. The top 5-10% that stand a chance of being drafted some day are the ones who will want compensation for their consent - and they deserve it.

                  This isn't about saying the players should be paid to play by the schools. This is about the NCAA, CLC, and EA infringing the intellectual property rights of the players, and regardless of how you feel about players deserving pay, that is exploitation.

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                  • coogrfan
                    In Fritz We Trust
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 15646

                    #504
                    Re: EA Sports Will Not Publish College Football Game Next Year, Future Plans in Doubt

                    Originally posted by RedSoxFox7
                    That's still the case today, but that doesn't change the fact they should be consulted first, and they should have to give consent second.

                    If you went to the 11,000 some odd FBS football players and asked them if they wanted to be in NCAA Football 15, officially, you'd probably get 90-95% of them just doing it to get their real name and face in the game. The top 5-10% that stand a chance of being drafted some day are the ones who will want compensation for their consent - and they deserve it.

                    This isn't about saying the players should be paid to play by the schools. This is about the NCAA, CLC, and EA infringing the intellectual property rights of the players, and regardless of how you feel about players deserving pay, that is exploitation.
                    5-10%? More like 1-2%.

                    Are you familiar with the legal adage "hard cases make bad law"? If ever there was a classic example of the truth of that maxim, this is it. The notion of altering the entire landscape of college athletics for the sake of putting a few bucks in the pockets of such a miniscule fraction of the participants in cfb is, imho, utter folly.

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                    • coogrfan
                      In Fritz We Trust
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 15646

                      #505
                      Re: EA Sports Will Not Publish College Football Game Next Year, Future Plans in Doubt

                      Originally posted by RedSoxFox7
                      That's still the case today, but that doesn't change the fact they should be consulted first, and they should have to give consent second.

                      If you went to the 11,000 some odd FBS football players and asked them if they wanted to be in NCAA Football 15, officially, you'd probably get 90-95% of them just doing it to get their real name and face in the game. The top 5-10% that stand a chance of being drafted some day are the ones who will want compensation for their consent - and they deserve it.

                      This isn't about saying the players should be paid to play by the schools. This is about the NCAA, CLC, and EA infringing the intellectual property rights of the players, and regardless of how you feel about players deserving pay, that is exploitation.
                      As opposed to the EA/CLC settlement, in which the individual players will reportedly walk away with less than $400 per person, while their lawyers will pocket $10 million plus. Now tell me again, who exactly is "exploiting" the players?

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                      • da ThRONe
                        Fire LesS Miles ASAP!
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 8543

                        #506
                        Re: EA Sports Will Not Publish College Football Game Next Year, Future Plans in Doubt

                        Originally posted by coogrfan
                        As opposed to the EA/CLC settlement, in which the individual players will reportedly walk away with less than $400 per person, while their lawyers will pocket $10 million plus. Now tell me again, who exactly is "exploiting" the players?
                        This is a win for all scholarship athletes. They can no longer have their likeness used without their permission. I'm no fan of lawyers and they made out like bandits in all of this financially you'll get no argument from me there. However this case may be the base that gets SA a step closer to earning the right to be compensated for their likeness like the NCAA and EA has been doing for years.
                        You looking at the Chair MAN!

                        Number may not tell the whole story ,but they never lie either.

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                        • coogrfan
                          In Fritz We Trust
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 15646

                          #507
                          Re: EA Sports Will Not Publish College Football Game Next Year, Future Plans in Doubt

                          Originally posted by da ThRONe
                          This is a win for all scholarship athletes. They can no longer have their likeness used without their permission. I'm no fan of lawyers and they made out like bandits in all of this financially you'll get no argument from me there. However this case may be the base that gets SA a step closer to earning the right to be compensated for their likeness like the NCAA and EA has been doing for years.
                          Imo, it's far more likely that the only result of all this will be that we've seen the last of college sports video games.

                          Thanks, guys. Don't spend it all in one place.

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                          • da ThRONe
                            Fire LesS Miles ASAP!
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 8543

                            #508
                            Re: EA Sports Will Not Publish College Football Game Next Year, Future Plans in Doubt

                            Originally posted by coogrfan
                            Imo, it's far more likely that the only result of all this will be that we've seen the last of college sports video games.

                            Thanks, guys. Don't spend it all in one place.
                            If that's the case and we never get another collegiate game we have to ask why. The answer is EA was using SA's likeness without their permission point blank period.

                            EA could have made a game where the teams had completely random players. Since the actual players aren't that important.
                            You looking at the Chair MAN!

                            Number may not tell the whole story ,but they never lie either.

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                            • RedSoxFox7
                              Banned
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 252

                              #509
                              Re: EA Sports Will Not Publish College Football Game Next Year, Future Plans in Doubt

                              Originally posted by coogrfan
                              5-10%? More like 1-2%.

                              Are you familiar with the legal adage "hard cases make bad law"? If ever there was a classic example of the truth of that maxim, this is it. The notion of altering the entire landscape of college athletics for the sake of putting a few bucks in the pockets of such a miniscule fraction of the participants in cfb is, imho, utter folly.
                              No, it's more like 5-10%. It's a little over 2% in any given year.

                              As far as "altering the entire landscape of college athletics" is concerned, please, spare us the senseless exaggerations. Allowing student athletes to make money on their own likeness would hardly change anything, and the biggest change we have now is a stop to EA/CLC/NCAA profiting from their unauthorized use of intellectual property.

                              Originally posted by coogrfan
                              As opposed to the EA/CLC settlement, in which the individual players will reportedly walk away with less than $400 per person, while their lawyers will pocket $10 million plus. Now tell me again, who exactly is "exploiting" the players?
                              The NCAA is (was) exploiting them. The NCAA was illegally using their IP (and that of many others not involved in the suit) for years. The terms of the EA/CLC settlement are irrelevant here.

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                              • Forestman
                                Rookie
                                • Feb 2012
                                • 38

                                #510
                                Re: EA Sports Will Not Publish College Football Game Next Year, Future Plans in Doubt

                                Originally posted by da ThRONe
                                If that's the case and we never get another collegiate game we have to ask why. The answer is EA was using SA's likeness without their permission point blank period.

                                EA could have made a game where the teams had completely random players. Since the actual players aren't that important.
                                Apparently that wouldn't have sold very well. They were pushing for authenticity which was in higher demand than ever before.

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