Pro Evolution Soccer 2014 Review (PS3/360)

[KG]

Re: Pro Evolution Soccer 2014 Review (PS3/360)

A few things I'd really like patched:

When the CPU has a breakaway they tend to hesitate allowing my defenders to catch-up

The keepers need to do a better job at parrying shots away from trouble as well as react to 2nd shots faster. Keepers are always a sensitive subject in PES but they're not as bad as people make them out to be. IRL keepers make huge gaffes, just see this weeks UCL matches. I saw Buffon and a few other experienced keepers make some idiotic mistakes. It happens, just need to be cleaned up some.

Fouls. I feel like the contact animations for fouls are there, they just aren't called consistently. There are some cases where the fouls are called but the ref is off the screen and plays the advantage (at least using the camera angle I play with)


A few things I love:

The pace of play is really spot on. At times it's frantic but at other times it's slowed down. IRL, matches have phases of domination and I think it's pretty accurately represented here. As Chelsea in a league mode I traveled to the San Siro to take on Milan in the UCL. They came out like gangbusters and I called on Cech to bail me out. After about 15mins we settled down and were able to get a few goals. We eased up on the gas, gave up a goal and they seized momentum.

When good players are on good form (arrow & heart) they are a joy to play with. They close down faster, make better runs, etc...

The learning curve with the new dribbling system is steep but very rewarding since it's so player specific. I can tell the difference between Mata & Hazard.

[bakan723]

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how is the player switching (demo seems to be a bit off or do odd things on turnovers/loose balls.

Yea, player switching was def delayed in the demo. I thought the controls felt unresponsive in general & controlling the players felt sluggish and a bit clunky.

The demo didn't have a game speed option this year either. Does the full game ? Felt like it needed to be turned up in the demo. Maybe that would of helped a bit with the feeling of sluggishness. But the player switching def had some input delay goin on, and that can ruin a game on it's own.

[scottyo60]

Hey I'm new to the series (xbox360) and I really bought this as a way to show support to non EA products after enjoying the demo gameplay. My question and I've looked around, is there a list to the generic teams or saves that can help get all the teams that are generic?

I also do to know too much about soccer so generic rosters are not an issue, I just know names

[LingeringRegime]

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I am buying one or the other tonight/tomorrow. I've been playing the demos and am so on the fence. Roolz had me in the PES camp after his rant but LingeringRegime pulled me back again.

how is the frame rate?
how is the online play - lag/griefers?
how is the player switching (demo seems to be a bit off or do odd things on turnovers/loose balls. I use setting just below full manual switching)?
can you switch camera angles online?

Frame rate is a little choppy in some cut scenes. Gameplay is smooth.
Haven't played much online.
Player switching is fine for me with semi-assisted.
Not sure about online camera angles.

If you plan on playing a lot of online go with FIFA. Problem is I have had trouble finding someone to play against, because I use full manual settings.

If not go with PES.

If I had to choose one it would be PES, as others have said it is more organic. Feels more alive to me. Gameplay is amazing.

I want to abandon PES, but I just can't. It has more soul.

Hey I'm new to the series (xbox360) and I really bought this as a way to show support to non EA products after enjoying the demo gameplay. My question and I've looked around, is there a list to the generic teams or saves that can help get all the teams that are generic?

I also do to know too much about soccer so generic rosters are not an issue, I just know names

Check the Option File thread. The instructions of how to use them are on the first post. You must use a BLUS option file, it is for the USA.

I think there are a few for the 360 available.

[lovemuscle]

It is unbelievable to me that this game gets all this praise when headers are flat out broken, and volleys and controlled shots are pretty much extinct as well. Variety used to be what made this series great. You would see awesome passing that lead to all kinds of different scoring, not any more. Now it's post up your man spin and fire. This game has gotten too mechanical making it very bland. And I repeat HEADERS, CONTROLLED SHOTS, AND VOLLEYS ARE BROKEN.......No soccer game should be praised having these glaring fundamental issues. Extremely unacceptable!

[morro316]

The core is great but so many stupid elements that break the game. The 360 debacle has essentially murdered online play and I doubt people will ever come back. The lack of pace differential is really jarring as well. Cristiano Ronaldo and Rio Ferdinand in a foot race is dead even. Absurd and just a cheap well of eliminating the pace element of football games. The presentation is disastrously bad and no transfer updates whilst we head into October is just ridiculous.

Konami seemingly relies on Option Files/Mod creators to save them from having to bother with the secondary features. But when you have set your online mode on fire and unable to fix it till seemingly November, you deserve to have your game miserably fail.

[Mikeatris]

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I am buying one or the other tonight/tomorrow. I've been playing the demos and am so on the fence. Roolz had me in the PES camp after his rant but LingeringRegime pulled me back again.

how is the frame rate?
how is the online play - lag/griefers?
how is the player switching (demo seems to be a bit off or do odd things on turnovers/loose balls. I use setting just below full manual switching)?
can you switch camera angles online?

I feel ya. I usually buy PES on release date by not being able to get online is a HUGE drawback to me. I'm on my 360 on MP 99.9% of the time. I only buy MP games and rent the SP games from Gamefly. That being said I am just gonna get Fifa today since TRU got 40 bucks off if u get Fifa and NHL plus I got a 15.00 gift card. I am gonna Gamefly PES this yr and just play 2013 for my online experience. If it gets fleshed out down the road I will get 2014 but there's absolutely no way I can get it and it has no online on it as of right now.

[mauro78]

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My only gripe is the lack of weather effects such as rain/snow :-( .....other than that I love PES 2014 :-)

[carnalnirvana]

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if it wasn't for the horrible menu's and bad roster/ratings, this game is golden when edited...

there really are 2 games on this disc, and konami should have put in a roster exchange option, like madden got recently.

[LingeringRegime]

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I do have to agree with you guys about the headers though. I hit sqaure twice in the box and my player just stands there. I hope they can patch this.

[dcherry]

I do have to agree with you guys about the headers though. I hit sqaure twice in the box and my player just stands there. I hope they can patch this.

For headers....You need to let go of the shoot button before the ball gets there. I was having the same trouble but that solved the issue for me. Scored some nice headed goals since then.

Weird quirk or something....it's never been like that before.

[teambayern]

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Just a heads up -- the data pack worked for me yesterday for the first time, so try again if you're on Xbox. Online isn't great though, judging by my first game. I wouldn't call it lag, because it is smooth, but everything (animations, responsiveness, input delay) are slowed way down such that the game runs like molasses. It is sort of like playing an RTS where you have to plan your attack ahead of time and hope it works, since you can't really react fast enough in the moment.

[LingeringRegime]

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For headers....You need to let go of the shoot button before the ball gets there. I was having the same trouble but that solved the issue for me. Scored some nice headed goals since then.

Weird quirk or something....it's never been like that before.

So hold down the shoot button and let it go right before it reaches the head?

[KG]

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Just a heads up -- the data pack worked for me yesterday for the first time, so try again if you're on Xbox. Online isn't great though, judging by my first game. I wouldn't call it lag, because it is smooth, but everything (animations, responsiveness, input delay) are slowed way down such that the game runs like molasses. It is sort of like playing an RTS where you have to plan your attack ahead of time and hope it works, since you can't really react fast enough in the moment.

I got it too. Is it only 2 new balls? If so, what a waste.


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[dcherry]

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So hold down the shoot button and let it go right before it reaches the head?

Basically, yes.