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  • sportznut02
    The buzz is palpable now!
    • Dec 2004
    • 8064

    #1

    Lawyers Never Wanted to Sack the EA Sports College Football Series


    With the EA/CLC settlement completed and many on the EA Sports NCAA team blindsided without a job, the money-grabbing lawyers have finally chimed in with a few things to say.

    "We would've been happy to have the game go forward. It was never our intent to not have this game [continue]...

    "That's not us. We didn't tell them to do that," said Aragon, when asked to comment on EA's cancellation of next year's college football title. "We would be fine if they published a game."

    "There's nothing stopping [EA] from making the game, so long as they don't use players' names, images or likenesses. Or [they could] pay the students, which they didn't really agree to..."

    Source - Lawyers never intended for EA to stop making NCAA Football games (Polygon)
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  • nortobc
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    • Jul 2004
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    #2
    Re: Lawyers never intended for EA to stop making NCAA Football games

    Bull****. If the defendant lawyers "didn't intend" EA to stop making the game they wouldn't have put it in the lawsuit. Those rat bastards are just trying to play the good guy now.

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    • cparrish
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      • Apr 2010
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      #3
      Re: Lawyers never intended for EA to stop making NCAA Football games

      "There's nothing stopping [EA] from making the game, so long as they don't use players' names, images or likenesses."

      Well since EA has never used any players names or images in their games, I am guessing player likeness is the key and to honestly avoid that, I am guessing EA would have to make all the players green, but then we might be getting lawsuits from someone who lives off on another planet.
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      • jd@os
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        • Jul 2007
        • 3718

        #4
        Re: Lawyers never intended for EA to stop making NCAA Football games

        Yeah, and God never intended for chocolate to make us fat, but hey.....


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        • Foots
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          • May 2005
          • 37

          #5
          Re: Lawyers never intended for EA to stop making NCAA Football games

          I'm pretty sure they intended for EA to continue making the game, so long as someone got paid.

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          • bkrich83
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            • Jul 2002
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            #6
            Re: Lawyers never intended for EA to stop making NCAA Football games

            Typical money grab, only the only people who made any money in this fiasco were the lawyers.
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            • hazey
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              • Mar 2008
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              #7
              Re: Lawyers never intended for EA to stop making NCAA Football games

              Originally posted by cparrish
              "There's nothing stopping [EA] from making the game, so long as they don't use players' names, images or likenesses."

              Well since EA has never used any players names or images in their games, I am guessing player likeness is the key and to honestly avoid that, I am guessing EA would have to make all the players green, but then we might be getting lawsuits from someone who lives off on another planet.

              Not to mention that conferences, and also a good majority of schools themselves, said they would not allow EA to use their brand.

              The best EA could have done was created a generic college football game with generic teams and conferences, and we all know how that would have worked.

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              • Foots
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                • May 2005
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                #8
                Re: Lawyers Never Wanted to Sack the EA Sports College Football Series

                It would be nice if those guys that were fired would take their ideas to another company to develop a fully customizable college football game. Its a possibility as long as there are no player likenesses.

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                • Iceman87GT
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                  • Jan 2010
                  • 1739

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Foots
                  It would be nice if those guys that were fired would take their ideas to another company to develop a fully customizable college football game. Its a possibility as long as there are no player likenesses.

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                  There is no one with the resources or willingness to do that currently.

                  They wouldn't have the NCAA they wouldn't have the SEC, Pac-12, or the B1G. They wouldn't have a reportedly major team (Ohio State was rumored to be the school), and because they wouldn't have an existing deal they would lose a lot more teams (the existing agreement the CLC had required all but a single school to lend their likeness, with that deal no longer in play many more schools would be able to pull their stuff from the game).

                  Truth is the Lawyers really didn't want to put an end to the game, however the game was the first step in going after money for players. Next up are the TV deals, EA's game is just collateral damage. It's annoying as hell, especially if they were going to get the level of customization that has been reported to have been in the works. Hopefully we can get a game in 2015.
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                  • RandyBass
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                    • Dec 2009
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                    #10
                    Re: Lawyers never intended for EA to stop making NCAA Football games

                    Originally posted by nortobc
                    If the defendant lawyers "didn't intend" EA to stop making the game they wouldn't have put it in the lawsuit.
                    ?

                    The ignorance of this site continues to amaze me. Please point to the part of the lawsuit where it says they have to stop making a college football game.

                    And, typical money grab? Yeah, because there are so many lawyers out there looking to cash in on this ever present issue of using someone's likeness without their permission. SMGDMFH.

                    EA could have easily protected themselves by not blatantly trying to skirt the rule of law, but instead they were reckless and foolish and are now paying the price. The only ones to be mad at here are EA for being so dumb, and probably the NCAA as well for apparently turning and looking the other way while all this was going on.

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                    • Irishwhiskey119
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                      • Jul 2012
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by RandyBass
                      ?

                      The ignorance of this site continues to amaze me. Please point to the part of the lawsuit where it says they have to stop making a college football game.

                      And, typical money grab? Yeah, because there are so many lawyers out there looking to cash in on this ever present issue of using someone's likeness without their permission. SMGDMFH.

                      EA could have easily protected themselves by not blatantly trying to skirt the rule of law, but instead they were reckless and foolish and are now paying the price. The only ones to be mad at here are EA for being so dumb, and probably the NCAA as well for apparently turning and looking the other way while all this was going on.
                      No.

                      The lawyers wanted to get paid.

                      They wanted other players to follow suit and the number of players in each year of the game is gigantic. Lawyers motivation is money only..

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                      • bkrich83
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                        • Jul 2002
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                        #12
                        Re: Lawyers never intended for EA to stop making NCAA Football games

                        Originally posted by RandyBass
                        ?

                        The ignorance of this site continues to amaze me. Please point to the part of the lawsuit where it says they have to stop making a college football game.

                        And, typical money grab? Yeah, because there are so many lawyers out there looking to cash in on this ever present issue of using someone's likeness without their permission. SMGDMFH.

                        EA could have easily protected themselves by not blatantly trying to skirt the rule of law, but instead they were reckless and foolish and are now paying the price. The only ones to be mad at here are EA for being so dumb, and probably the NCAA as well for apparently turning and looking the other way while all this was going on.
                        So tell me then, who profited financially the most here? It certainly wasn't the players/plaintiffs.

                        The EA/NCAA didn't use anyone's likeness without their permission. The players signed that away when they accepted their scholarhip, literally.

                        As far as EA skirting the law, might want to read up on the law. What law exactly did they skirt?

                        Ignorance? Hello kettle, you're black.

                        EA's not making college football, because quite simply, given the numbers it generates, it simply not worth the effort or the risk of potential nuisance lawsuits in the future. Not to mention all of the Conferences, and the NCAA itself refusing to license their IP's
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                        • da ThRONe
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                          • Mar 2009
                          • 8527

                          #13
                          Re: Lawyers never intended for EA to stop making NCAA Football games

                          Originally posted by bkrich83
                          So tell me then, who profited financially the most here? It certainly wasn't the players/plaintiffs.

                          The EA/NCAA didn't use anyone's likeness without their permission. The players signed that away when they accepted their scholarhip, literally.

                          As far as EA skirting the law, might want to read up on the law. What law exactly did they skirt?

                          Ignorance? Hello kettle, you're black.

                          EA's not making college football, because quite simply, given the numbers it generates, it simply not worth the effort or the risk of potential nuisance lawsuits in the future. Not to mention all of the Conferences, and the NCAA itself refusing to license their IP's
                          This laterally makes no sense. Why in the world would EA agree to a settlement of any kind if they are 100% in the right? They have million dollar lawyers as well. Clearly those million dollar lawyers thought the settlement was the best option for a reason. And it's not because EA just love giving money away.
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                          • prowler
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                            • Aug 2002
                            • 1385

                            #14
                            Re: Lawyers never intended for EA to stop making NCAA Football games

                            Originally posted by RandyBass
                            ?

                            The ignorance of this site continues to amaze me. Please point to the part of the lawsuit where it says they have to stop making a college football game.

                            And, typical money grab? Yeah, because there are so many lawyers out there looking to cash in on this ever present issue of using someone's likeness without their permission. SMGDMFH.

                            EA could have easily protected themselves by not blatantly trying to skirt the rule of law, but instead they were reckless and foolish and are now paying the price. The only ones to be mad at here are EA for being so dumb, and probably the NCAA as well for apparently turning and looking the other way while all this was going on.
                            This right here. We can pretend all we want that EA didn't use player likeness but they've already settled with the players so it's a moot issue.

                            EA should have released a purely generic roster where every team had the same amount of players at each position who were all 6' 160 pounds and done a better job of nudging gamers to the roster share feature.

                            Every year THQ (and now 2K) released a WWE game with an online feature that allows people to download tons of player created unlicensed, non-WWE wrestlers who look and act just like their real life counterparts. I have yet to see a former wrestler file a lawsuit.

                            It might not have been the best alternative but who is Sam Keller going to sue if rosters are modified after the game ships.

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                            • reyes the roof
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                              • Mar 2009
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                              #15
                              Re: Lawyers never intended for EA to stop making NCAA Football games

                              Originally posted by prowler
                              This right here. We can pretend all we want that EA didn't use player likeness but they've already settled with the players so it's a moot issue.

                              EA should have released a purely generic roster where every team had the same amount of players at each position who were all 6' 160 pounds and done a better job of nudging gamers to the roster share feature.

                              Every year THQ (and now 2K) released a WWE game with an online feature that allows people to download tons of player created unlicensed, non-WWE wrestlers who look and act just like their real life counterparts. I have yet to see a former wrestler file a lawsuit.

                              It might not have been the best alternative but who is Sam Keller going to sue if rosters are modified after the game ships.

                              They wouldn't have even needed to go that far, just completely randomize the players sort of like The Show does with all the minor leaguers. The thing about NCAA that is different from other sports games is that once you are five seasons in, all of the players are fake anyway, so I'd have no problem playing with fake players from day 1. And with the roster share feature I'm sure the community could put together fully named accurate rosters within a month of the game being released like with The Show

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