OFFICIAL 2k14 Playbook Changes, ONLY Plays that ARENT BROKE

[vtcrb]

Ok guys I am sure most of you guys have seen the CPU standing around running the Shot Clock down. This is due to the Broken Plays. What I did was go into the Teams I am working on, and Edit Playbooks and Remove ALL but 1 play. And the Running Clock down is gone. Ball Movement is crisp, but NEED plays to ADD back in Plays that work to make it TRUE Gameplay Experience.

So here it what I am Suggesting. There are a TON of guys on here who know basketball. So what I am HOPING is to get at LEAST 20 Plays that WORK, hopefully MORE. Then USERs can choose WHICH plays they want to include for their Individual teams. I know this is a HUGE Project, but I KNOW as a Community we can KNOCK IT OUT. As soon as you guys List a Play that you have TESTED, I will ADD it to this post. PLEASE dont just post plays to get Credit, make sure you test them thoroughly.

This could be a TRUE Game Changer for 2k14. Thanks in advance to all who help.


Edit: A Quick way to find plays that work would be to go to Vannwolfhawk 2k13 Blog and see if ANY of the plays he had that worked and named the same in 2k14.


***MAJOR THANK YOU to OS Playbook Guru VANNWOLFHAWK, without HIS 2k13 work this WOULDNT be Possible***

LINK to OS Member SLIMM44 Spreadsheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...=sharing#gid=2

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Plays to Add(User Choice which they ADD)


POST HIGH PLAYS

98 SAS 4 High Post
4 Pinch
WIDE HIGH
91 Lakers 13 Cross Post
90 GSW Post 2
91 Lakers Magic DIVE 4 HIGH

Mid Range

96 Sonics 12 Up Double
90 Cavs 14 Cross Up
90 Hawks 12 Delay Up
86 Celtics 43 Backdoor
84 PHI Offscreen 2
84 MIL Offscreen 4
01 Sac Chin Rub
71 NYK 5 X Option
71 MIL 31 Offscreen
90 Bulls 42 Up Strong
95 Bulls 31 Cross Up
95 Bulls 41 Up
97 Jazz 12 Up
95 Knicks 12 Up
92 Blazers 21 delay Up
92 Blazers 32 delay Swing
90 Bulls 43 Dive
90 Pistons 12 Cross Up
90 Hawks 13 Up
90 Hawks 13 Straight
90 Hawks 12 Stretch
86 Celtics 13 Up
86 Bulls 12 Up Double
86 Bulls 13 Up Side
86 Bulls 21 Stretch
84 MIL Offscreen 3
84 MIL Offscreen 4
84 PHI Offscreen 1

Low Post

71 MIL Bucks Motion Cutter
84 PHI Post 1
71 MIL Dribble Punch
86 Celtics 35 Post
84 PHI Post 2
90 Hawks 15 Post
90 Cavs 14 Punch
01 Sac Post 3
90 Bulls 25 Dribble Punch
98 SAS 4 Clear Post
97 Bulls 25 Punch
92 Bulls 15 Power
86 Celtics 24 Reverse Post
98 Jazz 34 Cross Post
97 Jazz 14 Dribble Power
90 Cavs 45 Cross Power
98 LAL Beast 5
90 Cavs 45 Cross Power
96 Sonics 14 Punch
95 Knicks 15 Dribble Punch
95 Knicks 25 Punch
95 Knicks 23 Punch
95 Knicks 15 Cross Post
93 Hou 5 Down
92 CHA Post 1
92 CHA P Grandma
90 Bulls 35 Pinch
90 Bulls 25 Quick Post
90 Cavs 15 Brush Post
90 Pistons 13 Clear Power
90 LAL Post 5
91 Lakers 25 Pin
90 Hawks 13 Cross Post
86 Celtics 24 Reverse Post
86 Celtics 34 Punch
86 Celtics 15 Reverse Punch
86 Bulls 34 Post
84 MIL Post 1
92 Bulls 15 Power
91 Lakers 12 Post
Box Power
Zipper Swing Power


Isolation

90 Bulls 12 Corner Iso
90 GSW Iso 1
90 Hawks 13 Dub Up
96 Bulls 52 Rub
98 Bulls 2 Ice
98 LAL Deuce Double
93 Hou Dream High
90 Cavs 14 Side Iso
90 Pistons 51 Gut Roll
90 LAL Iso 1
90 Hawks 13 Top Iso
86 Bulls 12 Side
86 Bulls 12 Screen Iso
84 Phi Iso 2
84 Phi Iso 3
IND P Quick Post
24 Punch
92 CHA ISO 1
Drop 2 ISO
Slice 2
Fist Up Ice 1

Cutter

94 ORL P Lil Penny Alley
93 Hou 13 Over
92 CHA Offscreen 1
84 MIL Cut 1
Wide 2 Alley
CAVS 15 ALLEY


3pt
98 SAS 3 Cross Offscreen
96 Bulls 54 Over
95 Bulls 32 Fade
94 DEN 1 Hawk
92 Blazers 41 reverse Up
90 Pistons 15 Trey
90 Hawks 32 Up
86 Celtics 13 Swing Double
Blazers 12 Quick Up
SAS Early Corner 1
77 Trey

Pick and Roll
98 SAS 52 Stretch Roll
97 Bulls 53 Corner Roll
95 Bulls 52 Roll
95 Bulls 32 Fade
90 Cavs 1 DBL
90 Cavs 51 Open roll
90 Cavs 31 Angle Up
91 Lakers 42 Fade
86 Celtics 51 Roll
86 Bulls 51 Roll
86 Bulls 21 Roll
86 Bulls 52 Screen Open
84 PHI PNR 1
DET 1 Angle
POR 1 Chest
CLE 42 Side
UTA Angle
HORNS ANGLE
SAS EALY 51 PnR
FIST DOWN 4 LIFT
ANGLE 4 LIFT
ANGLE CNR
65 LAL ANGLE
ANGLE 24 SHORT
15 FLAT
SAS 53 PnR
SAS EARLY 41 GUT PnR
65 LAL 3 Side
97 Jazz 51 Angle Roll
Slice Fist Down
Wide Fist
Fist up 14 sttrong
DET Quick Fist
65 BOS 1 Angle

[Nukleopatra]

Re: OFFICIAL 2k14 Playbook Changes, ONLY Plays that ARENT BROKE

If this is going to stop Udonis Haslem from taking three point shots that Kevin Durant wouldn't even take - thread of the year.

[mango_prom]

Re: OFFICIAL 2k14 Playbook Changes, ONLY Plays that ARENT BROKE

Ok guys I am sure most of you guys have seen the CPU standing around running the Shot Clock down. This is due to the Broken Plays. What I did was go into the Teams I am working on, and Edit Playbooks and Remove ALL but 1 play. And the Running Clock down is gone. Ball Movement is crisp, but NEED plays to ADD back in Plays that work to make it TRUE Gameplay Experience.

How did you set the run plays and early offense sliders for this test?

[vtcrb]

Re: OFFICIAL 2k14 Playbook Changes, ONLY Plays that ARENT BROKE

How did you set the run plays and early offense sliders for this test?

Run Plays at 0 for Now, until i can get some plays in. Early Offense between 80-95 for now.

[qpc123]

Re: OFFICIAL 2k14 Playbook Changes, ONLY Plays that ARENT BROKE

I feel pretty confident in saying most of the plays in the classic team playbooks that Vann had last year still work.
Here is the link.
http://www.operationsports.com/vannw...esrough-draft/

of the play I have tried the only that I know of the DO NOT WORK are 96 Bulls 52 Roll and 96 Bulls 53 Roll.

Wow 80-95 Early offense. Hows that working?

[vtcrb]

Re: OFFICIAL 2k14 Playbook Changes, ONLY Plays that ARENT BROKE

I feel pretty confident in saying most of the plays in the classic team playbooks that Vann had last year still work.
Here is the link.
http://www.operationsports.com/vannw...esrough-draft/

of the play I have tried the only that I know of the DO NOT WORK are 96 Bulls 52 Roll and 96 Bulls 53 Roll.

Wow 80-95 Early offense. Hows that working?

Well once we can get Plays in that work, it will change Profiles up. Reason I had it that High was to TRY to get rid of the Shot Clock Run Down.

[mango_prom]

Re: OFFICIAL 2k14 Playbook Changes, ONLY Plays that ARENT BROKE

Run Plays at 0 for Now, until i can get some plays in. Early Offense between 80-95 for now.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't that mean the ai only runs the early offense sets withoug much PnRs or off the ball screens going on?

Anway...for high post plays you want to

a) get rid of too many PnRs triggered by no entry pass into the post
b) have the posting player get the ball reliably out of the set.

So in general, high plays with the big man posting up more near the middle of the court don't work well with cpu teams, because the ai won't recognize the entry pass being possible, resulting in the play breaking down or a PnR being triggered. So you should look for plays resulting in a post up closer to the sidelines.

2k actually removed some very good high post plays from 2k14, good job!

These work:
98 SAS 4 High Post
WIDE HIGH
91 Lakers 13 Cross Post
90 GSW Post 2

But reliable plays like Rapt High, Mia High, Liberty 1/2/3 and so on are apparently gone.

[vtcrb]

Re: OFFICIAL 2k14 Playbook Changes, ONLY Plays that ARENT BROKE

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't that mean the ai only runs the early offense sets withoug much PnRs or off the ball screens going on?

Anway...for high post plays you want to

a) get rid of too many PnRs triggered by no entry pass into the post
b) have the posting player get the ball reliably out of the set.

So in general, high plays with the big man posting up more near the middle of the court don't work well with cpu teams, because the ai won't recognize the entry pass being possible, resulting in the play breaking down or a PnR being triggered. So you should look for plays resulting in a post up closer to the sidelines.

2k actually removed some very good high post plays from 2k14, good job!

These work:
98 SAS 4 High Post
4 Pinch
WIDE HIGH
91 Lakers 13 Cross Post
90 GSW Post 2

But reliable plays like Rapt High, Mia High, Liberty 1/2/3 and so on are apparently gone.

I am not sure How the Early Offense works, without having the Broken Plays gone. I think we will all get a Clearer Understanding once we can get Playbooks cleaned up as to how everything will work together. Thank You for listing those Plays. I am adding them to the 1st Post

[dramachild11]

Re: OFFICIAL 2k14 Playbook Changes, ONLY Plays that ARENT BROKE

I can get on board with helping out on this,but I wanted to know if I'm the only one that noticed that play books only hold about 30 plays instead of the 50 that they used to have in previous editions of 2k, am I right about this? If so it's gonna make it a lil bit harder to choose which working plays to include or omit

[slimm44]

Re: OFFICIAL 2k14 Playbook Changes, ONLY Plays that ARENT BROKE

I would like to help as I have time. I am downloading from Steam now and should have it tonight. I'm assuming we're testing in CPU vs. CPU with default sliders? What difficulty? Default rosters? Also, can we add the team playbook that the play comes from and not just the name of the play?

[vtcrb]

Re: OFFICIAL 2k14 Playbook Changes, ONLY Plays that ARENT BROKE

I can get on board with helping out on this,but I wanted to know if I'm the only one that noticed that play books only hold about 30 plays instead of the 50 that they used to have in previous editions of 2k, am I right about this? If so it's gonna make it a lil bit harder to choose which working plays to include or omit

Yes fewer Plays. It will make it harder to choose, BUT at least USERs will know which Plays work. So then they can make their Own Picks. The MORE help the better.

[dramachild11]

Re: OFFICIAL 2k14 Playbook Changes, ONLY Plays that ARENT BROKE

Ok ill start looking through plays tonight after work (I'm gonna focus first on the mid range plays so those will be ones I post over the next few days)

[vtcrb]

Re: OFFICIAL 2k14 Playbook Changes, ONLY Plays that ARENT BROKE

I am updating the PLAY List every few minutes. I think it will give us a good base to choose from.

[vtcrb]

Re: OFFICIAL 2k14 Playbook Changes, ONLY Plays that ARENT BROKE

I would like to help as I have time. I am downloading from Steam now and should have it tonight. I'm assuming we're testing in CPU vs. CPU with default sliders? What difficulty? Default rosters? Also, can we add the team playbook that the play comes from and not just the name of the play?

I personally am Testing with Roster Edits I have made for Game Changers Project. We have been working on Slider set as well. Testing the Plays shoudl work with Default everything. What I am doing now is Listing all of the Classic Team Plays that work and that does have their team Name listed next to them.

[slimm44]

Re: OFFICIAL 2k14 Playbook Changes, ONLY Plays that ARENT BROKE

I'm at 92% downloaded. I'm about to geek out waiting for this bad boy to finish.