Madden NFL 25 CoachGlass with SmartGlass Video, Screenshots & Previews (Xbox One)

[cthurt]

Re: Madden NFL 25 CoachGlass with SmartGlass Video, Screenshots & Previews (Xbox One)

Im feeling less and less excitement about NG madden with the more footage I see, the fact that I had to say to myself is this current gen footage or next gen footage makes me want to cancel my pre order. Besides for lighting and textures what is really different, and these same cutscenes coming over from current gen is simply and eye soar to say the least.

Same EA mindset just a differnt console isnt going to work for me. I guess I was a fool to think that NG wouldnt be anything like the current gen game but I shouldve known better.

[jpdavis82]

Re: Madden NFL 25 CoachGlass with SmartGlass Video, Screenshots & Previews (Xbox One)

The game plays the exact same as current gen. Same animations ugly Qb dropbacks and everything, on that half back draw from shotgun the back gets hit in the backfield by one defender and the other defender just stopped immediately and didn't even bother to help out on the tackle, he just to because our was a pre-determine canned outcome.
This frickin game is a total joke now. If they renew the NFL license, we should start a petition and send it to the president, I'm serious!

They obviously just ported the current gen version over for Madden 25 on Xbox1/PS4, all along I've felt Madden 15(next year) would be the decisive game for the future of Madden.

[adub88]

Re: Madden NFL 25 CoachGlass with SmartGlass Video, Screenshots & Previews (Xbox One)

http://youtu.be/PE-_eg-CM_0
gameplay footage from engadget

Someone embed this

Wow...Looks like nothing like the E3 videos. Same ole below average gameplay on a very powerful console. This is why Mike Wang left EA after just one year and went back to 2K. They don't want to put the work that's required to produce a good product, and apparently don't have the know how. This video is beyond disappointing. Going to go cancel my pre-order today.

[Dogslax41]

Re: Madden NFL 25 CoachGlass with SmartGlass Video, Screenshots & Previews (Xbox One)

The game plays the exact same as current gen. Same animations ugly Qb dropbacks and everything, on that half back draw from shotgun the back gets hit in the backfield by one defender and the other defender just stopped immediately and didn't even bother to help out on the tackle, he just to because our was a pre-determine canned outcome.
This frickin game is a total joke now. If they renew the NFL license, we should start a petition and send it to the president, I'm serious!

I've been as critical of Madden as the next guy but that play looked nothing like current gen on the oline. You can see handfighting, a olineman actually turning his defender away from the play rather than pointing directly upfield and then the DE that makes the tackle actually has an animation to get off the block. The tackle was already made by the time the OLB got to the play there was nothing to help out on. A lot of the rest of the video looks very similar but the oline/dline interaction does not.

[tnixen]

Re: Madden NFL 25 CoachGlass with SmartGlass Video, Screenshots & Previews (Xbox One)

They obviously just ported the current gen version over for Madden 25 on Xbox1/PS4, all along I've felt Madden 15(next year) would be the decisive game for the future of Madden.

Totally agree Madden 15 will be the Madden where we really start to see major changes!

[djordan]

Re: Madden NFL 25 CoachGlass with SmartGlass Video, Screenshots & Previews (Xbox One)

Totally agree Madden 15 will be the Madden where we really start to see major changes!

We said the same thing after Madden 2006 on Xbox 360 was released. Fast forward 8 years and people are still saying the same line lol.

[reverend_heat]

Re: Madden NFL 25 CoachGlass with SmartGlass Video, Screenshots & Previews (Xbox One)

And on that note. I am very very encouraged about the oline play from the one run play that was shown. Staggered oline based on some dlinemen forcing their matchup deeper in the backfield than others and the player that made the tackle not just insta breaking the block and running away from the blocker but rather pushing off of him and turning to make the tackle. That was really the only play that showed anything other than what looks very similar to current gen.

Actually, from that small snippet, I agree with you. At the :30 second mark, the left guard comes out of his stance, and immediately gets to the second level and knocks a LB off of his pursuit angle. The way the OL/DL engage is different from current gen, whether it is different in a good way who the hell knows, but it is definitely different.

[ghettogeeksta]

Re: Madden NFL 25 CoachGlass with SmartGlass Video, Screenshots & Previews (Xbox One)

I've been as critical of Madden as the next guy but that play looked nothing like current gen on the oline. You can see handfighting, a olineman actually turning his defender away from the play rather than pointing directly upfield and then the DE that makes the tackle actually has an animation to get off the block. The tackle was already made by the time the OLB got to the play there was nothing to help out on. A lot of the rest of the video looks very similar but the oline/dline interaction does not.

In real life the other defender would have at least fell on top of the ball carrier or touched him or something. They wouldn't have stopped on a dime like the ball carrier isn't their. This proves that pre-determine outcomes controls much of the gameplay.

[cthurt]

Re: Madden NFL 25 CoachGlass with SmartGlass Video, Screenshots & Previews (Xbox One)

We said the same thing after Madden 2006 on Xbox 360 was released. Fast forward 8 years and people are still saying the same line lol.

I feel you lol it wont ever be what we want it to be when its the same team working on it every year, or until the NFL License is available to other companies.

[jpdavis82]

Re: Madden NFL 25 CoachGlass with SmartGlass Video, Screenshots & Previews (Xbox One)

I feel you lol it wont ever be what we want it to be when its the same team working on it every year, or until the NFL License is available to other companies.

It's not the same team though, I believe Kolbe Launchbaugh, former producer of MLB The Show, is only working on next gen Madden titles. Sean Graddy and Kevin Huddleston are new for next gen also. I think they just ported over the current gen version and are working on something special for future versions. Everyone complained about Madden 06 when they scrapped the old engine, so we have to keep that in mind. I'm sure there are some other exciting things planned for the future, but they only have been working on next gen Madden 25 since current gen released. We need a full dev cycle to see what Madden next gen is all about (Madden 15), not just 3 or 4 months(Madden 25). The ignite engine was being developed for the last 2 years, NOT Madden 25 next gen, keep that in mind.

[Dogslax41]

Re: Madden NFL 25 CoachGlass with SmartGlass Video, Screenshots & Previews (Xbox One)

Actually, from that small snippet, I agree with you. At the :30 second mark, the left guard comes out of his stance, and immediately gets to the second level and knocks a LB off of his pursuit angle. The way the OL/DL engage is different from current gen, whether it is different in a good way who the hell knows, but it is definitely different.

You can see the Center yank his defender toward him and turn him 90 degrees to the left using actual realistic form. That was never done in any previous Madden. The oline usually only stood toe to toe in some stupid pattycake animation up until Madden 25 on current gen and even then they just drove in a straight line. This resulted in the run game being massively overpowered because the dline never got a push into the backfield. Even the DE that made the tackle had worked to turn the RT to get upfield to make the tackle. And the fullback comes through the hole and only gets a piece of the linebacker and not a fully engaged block. Sorry but that did look very realistic.

[newtonfb]

wow after watching that engadget video im really dissapointed. Just look how the players still float above the ground and slide into place. I was hoping that the players would have some weight and phsyics to them. If anyone thinks that this will change your sadly mistaken. Its the core of the engine, ya they updated the graphics but in the last 2 or so years they should of built a new physics based engine for next gen from the ground up. Wow i cant believe that they just ported the game over and made it look better. Its a sad sad day.

[Jetpac]

Re: Madden NFL 25 CoachGlass with SmartGlass Video, Screenshots & Previews (Xbox One)

The ignite engine was being developed for the last 2 years, NOT Madden 25 next gen, keep that in mind.

right. Any more excuses for them?

[mynameisfriday]

Re: Madden NFL 25 CoachGlass with SmartGlass Video, Screenshots & Previews (Xbox One)

Hey guys, I normally don't post in here...I just browse and read. But after seeing this new footage of next-gen Madden 25, I had to say something. I've been nipping at the bit for next-gen madden since it was announced...to see that they just ported it over and added shoe polish on it is inexcusable. Very very disappointed...I had to ask myself it it really was next gen. only thing I noticed different in the engadget vid was o-lineman turning d-linemen sideways. that was literally it. good thing I didn't preorder. *end rant*

[GiantBlue76]

Re: Madden NFL 25 CoachGlass with SmartGlass Video, Screenshots & Previews (Xbox One)

Call me crazy, but I actually like this new feature. Anything that is "intelligent" and can be applied to the football chess match is welcome as long as it is done right. This is a good concept, let's see how it's implemented.

Also, the gameplay looked pretty good to me, but it's too small a sample size. I don't really care about graphics, if the AI and the football realism under the hood is better, then I will like the game. (Player movement as well).

This, conceptually anyway, is very innovative and can be something that is very, very cool if it is implemented properly. Let's hope.