Madden NFL 25 CoachGlass with SmartGlass Video, Screenshots & Previews (Xbox One)

[Dogslax41]

Re: Madden NFL 25 CoachGlass with SmartGlass Video, Screenshots & Previews (Xbox One)

We are all to blame because the one year they tried to change the game in 2006 with the 1st cycle of next gen games that were absent all the features this community and the Madden world cried blooody murder and demanded that old Ps2 twitch feeling back...So here we are and here they are...lesson learned...be careful what you ask for and when it comes to Madden never let your expectations outshine what has happened historically with the development of this franchise.

Let's be fair the 2006 uproar was about 1% due to gameplay changes and 99% due to the fact that they gutted the game from a features standpoint. Not to mention the big selling point for removing the features, the graphics, were nothing like what EA promised and they were caught in situation that was about as close to false advertising as you could get.

Madden's refusal to rewrite massive areas of the game has zero to do with fan's reaction back in 2006 and more about not having any competition and reason to reinvent the wheel.

[tfer717]

Re: Madden NFL 25 CoachGlass with SmartGlass Video, Screenshots & Previews (Xbox One)

Come take a ride in my TIME MACHINE:

All Comments from a random OS poster...

• Madden 07 will be the Madden where we really start to see major changes!

• Madden 08 will be the Madden where we really start to see major changes!

• Madden 09 will be the Madden where we really start to see major changes!

• Madden 10 will be the Madden where we really start to see major changes!

• Madden 11 will be the Madden where we really start to see major changes!

• Madden 12 will be the Madden where we really start to see major changes!

• Madden 13 will be the Madden where we really start to see major changes!

See whee I'm going with this?

my issues is when we spoke about current gen 25.. the response was "hey man don't worry about current gen... they are using all their efforts now going into next-gen"

and now that next-gen looks to be more of the same.. its "oh it's obviously just a direct port... wait til madden 15!"

I imagine a realistic thing we will hear next year is... "Well it's the first non-ported true next gen madden... so you can't expect them to get it right the first time! just laying the foundation!"

I hear they are already getting the ps5 dev team together. it's gonna blow your minds

[roadman]

Re: Madden NFL 25 CoachGlass with SmartGlass Video, Screenshots & Previews (Xbox One)

i wish i could be as optimistic as you road. I guess I just see it as a core flaw. No tweak to AI or new feature can change the way madden plays to me.

Trust me, I'm not optimistic, I'm just saying it might have potential.

I'm just trying to be patient until all the news comes out.

[dat swag]

Re: Madden NFL 25 CoachGlass with SmartGlass Video, Screenshots & Previews (Xbox One)

Let's be fair the 2006 uproar was about 1% due to gameplay changes and 99% due to the fact that they gutted the game from a features standpoint. Not to mention the big selling point for removing the features, the graphics, were nothing like what EA promised and they were caught in situation that was about as close to false advertising as you could get.

Madden's refusal to rewrite massive areas of the game has zero to do with fan's reaction back in 2006 and more about not having any competition and reason to reinvent the wheel.

personally I liked the 2006 game even with the omission of features because I'd prefer them to rebuild a game that IMO really needed rather than put a band aid over a big wound. The madden communities cried because the game was different from what they became accustomed to on Ps2 so instead of staying the course the game went back to its roots the ensuing years which IMO was a huge concession and the wrong direction.

This is where I have to side wit the EA business minds because they have to be thinking "Why do we need to take any risks at all?...All we need to do is give them a few catchy slogans, purrty the game up a bit and let Madden sell itself"...IMO that is the most prudent way fo them to maximize their profit margins and minimize risk. Sure there will be that small pocket of hardcore guys like us who will be unhappy and maybe not buy the game but when we are burned out and fed up there is a new batch of consumers to take our place and soften the blow in Madden sales...meanwhile Madden continues to be a formidable revenue stream for EA. If all I cared about was the business end of things I would do the same thing they are doing...lockdown the market with exclusivity and keep feeding the people a steady diet of standard Madden.

[tfer717]

Re: Madden NFL 25 CoachGlass with SmartGlass Video, Screenshots & Previews (Xbox One)

Trust me, I'm not optimistic, I'm just saying it might have potential.

I'm just trying to be patient until all the news comes out.

i think my most recent gripe has been.... that I know they are all about making money. and thats fine. but.. don't they feel embarrassed when the see 2k trailers? Like can they literally look at their game and say this is the best we can do? I hate to trivialize anything but seriously.

[dat swag]

Re: Madden NFL 25 CoachGlass with SmartGlass Video, Screenshots & Previews (Xbox One)

i think my most recent gripe has been.... that I know they are all about making money. and thats fine. but.. don't they feel embarrassed when the see 2k trailers? Like can they literally look at their game and say this is the best we can do? I hate to trivialize anything but seriously.

maybe some of the hands on developers on the madden team are upset and a little empty when they compare their game to other sports sims...But as soon as the Executives pat them on the back and they are cut a bonus check they come down with a case of a lil something I like to refer to as "Selective Amnesia"...

No disrespect to the EA/madden team because I really do think they do the best with what they are given to work with and I do believe they stand behind their product. Ian Cummings said it all in that podcast alluding to the fact that often as a developer/producer their creative hands are tied.

[tfer717]

Re: Madden NFL 25 CoachGlass with SmartGlass Video, Screenshots & Previews (Xbox One)

maybe some of the hands on developers on the madden team are upset and a little empty when they compare their game to other sports sims...But as soon as the Executives pat them on the back and they are cut a bonus check they come down with a case of a lil something I like to refer to as "Selective Amnesia"...

but aren't game developers fans of games? like do madden devs actually play madden on their spare time? I can't imagine.

[cthurt]

Re: Madden NFL 25 CoachGlass with SmartGlass Video, Screenshots & Previews (Xbox One)

but aren't game developers fans of games? like do madden devs actually play madden on their spare time? I can't imagine.

This is what I always wondered too, do they play there own game and say 'yep this is a good simulation of what I watch on Sundays' with a straight face. And Im guessing they dont play any other sports game other then Madden becuase then they would see just how far behind they are.

[Dogslax41]

Re: Madden NFL 25 CoachGlass with SmartGlass Video, Screenshots & Previews (Xbox One)

maybe some of the hands on developers on the madden team are upset and a little empty when they compare their game to other sports sims...But as soon as the Executives pat them on the back and they are cut a bonus check they come down with a case of a lil something I like to refer to as "Selective Amnesia"...

No disrespect to the EA/madden team because I really do think they do the best with what they are given to work with and I do believe they stand behind their product. Ian Cummings said it all in that podcast alluding to the fact that often as a developer/producer their creative hands are tied.

AJ Dembroski would disagree heavily.

[TeeDogg]

Re: Madden NFL 25 CoachGlass with SmartGlass Video, Screenshots & Previews (Xbox One)

This is what I always wondered too, do they play there own game and say 'yep this is a good simulation of what I watch on Sundays' with a straight face. And Im guessing they dont play any other sports game other then Madden becuase then they would see just how far behind they are.

Years ago when Ian was with EA he came on the boards and said they were working on the best tackling engine ever done, he also wanted feedback on what we liked so much about NFL2k5. well long story short I was quite surprised by how little he knew about what 2K5 had accomplished years prior. He even made a joking comment about being good not knowing much about the game being an EA guy. but he really didn't know what they had accomplished with their game.
Protak was the engine he was cooking up at the time. which didn't come remotely close to his claims but I really feel he thought 2K was only attaching a second player to the animation. no knock on Ian, I respect the guy and what he tried to accomplish but I think it does speak to some of the issues.

[CT Pitbull]

Re: Madden NFL 25 CoachGlass with SmartGlass Video, Screenshots & Previews (Xbox One)

As far as coach glass is concerned for me, "aint nobody got time fo' dat". But it looks like a cool feature if it's something you are interested in. Maybe if online play isn't cheesy SOMEDAY yea sure maybe I would give it a go. But until that day comes which seems far, far away right now, ill pass.


Game LOOKS better than any of the other recent videos I've seen. Still nowhere even close to the gameplay vids from E3, but better. My expectations have truly been tempered over the past couple weeks which is unfortunate but it is what it is. I'm getting the game for 9.99 so Im gonna give it a shot and if it feels the same, im gonna have plenty other games at launch to move on too. Simple as that.

[Boilerbuzz]

Re: Madden NFL 25 CoachGlass with SmartGlass Video, Screenshots & Previews (Xbox One)

I love the concept. But once I heard your guys say, "look at the blades of grass", I couldn't stop laughing and the rest of the piece was just a blur. I'll have to look at it later.

[tfer717]

Re: Madden NFL 25 CoachGlass with SmartGlass Video, Screenshots & Previews (Xbox One)

I'm sorry.. but if they said the footage was madden 15 for 360 I wouldn't think twice. After seeing what textures and lighting current gen can achieve (gtav)... I don't know how they can call this next generation graphics.

[Dr. Poe]

Seems like a cool little feature. One person use the controller, another can use the tablet and play offensive and defensive coordinator. Shocked it is only for Xbox one. It's good for me though.

[Swaggedupbruh]

Re: Madden NFL 25 CoachGlass with SmartGlass Video, Screenshots & Previews (Xbox One)

Since when is this on current gen? It has to he since they used curr... Oh wait.

Wouldn't know anyways since I didn't buy it