Re: Madden NFL 25 CoachGlass with SmartGlass Video, Screenshots & Previews (Xbox One)
Ian actually was a big Fifa fan. And I've played him personally on both Fifa and Madden while he was at home. I'm really thinking that guys are really starting to come to grips with what this whole deal is. I fully understand what they are not willing to do. They aren't going to repeat the debacle of Madden 06. Where the game is on current gen will be where it is built from this gen, features and all. Problem is, a lot of us feel that is a severely cracked foundation.
I was at work watching the one preview thread implode, and had an epiphany. Both parties were right. This game won't change greatly. Not while it sells millions of copies. The suits won't let it change. Fifa was a big loser in the soccer gaming wars when the big investment was made in it. Madden isn't in a war. Especially now that it doesn't even have to compete with NCAA. It really doesn't matter if the developers like it or not. This game is about marketing and sales, plain and simple. It's more about advertizing the NFL in a high profile very "playable" fashion. As long as it fulfills that goal, it will not be allowed to change much. This isn't some game based on the creative mind of a developer like CliffyB. It has a purpose to make both parties a boatload of cash.
I started to really lose hope when they had the Q&A with the director of the NFLPA. He basically stated he doesn't care about the quality of the game, just that the players make as much money as possible. In hindsight, I think that guys like Ian did have big dreams for the game. But were severely handcuffed. The situation with AJ was a perfect example. He wanted so badly to build the perfect Franchise mode. Poured his heart into it. It didn't fit the online business model. Sad.
Funny thing is, for all of the handcuffing and battling for the vision of the series, nobody seems to winning. This game is stuck in neutral. Like others have said, it's on marketing to work with the developers to have a neat "wow" feature every year. I am personally amused/bemused by this. Bit by bit, every major franchise and every major management position is being filled by the one team and studio that had the guts and talent to reinvent themselves. Fifa team and EAC. NBA Live has even turned to the head gameplay producer from Fifa12 from to try and raise their Titanic. I think that sometime in the future Madden will get made into a Fifa level game. But not until the game gets considered a "Triple Play." Fifa was an arcady game. Triple Play, too. There is only so long you can have a poorly playing game. Both those games had pretty faces and authentic players, uniforms, etc. But they ended up getting viewed as fakes, as the sports gaming industry passed them by. Madden will face that crisis, too. And Fifa will be it's huckleberry.
I loved watching the podcast with Pasta, and all. The dude straight out said it. Madden was okay, but he couldn't wait to get home and play Fifa. It's a better built game. Vision and execution. Only thing that Madden has propping it up is the fact that most American sports fans are rabid football fans. Most hate soccer. But with NBC pushing it in such a public way, and the fact that Fifa is a whale of a sports videogame, Madden is going to get pressure from a totally unexpected direction. Then they will finally be forced to peel back all the years of crappy code and build something worthy of SGOTY, and the league it's supposed to represent. I'll be wating and playing Fifa and NBA2k while they sort it out......
Madden 17, the best game eva!
Ian actually was a big Fifa fan. And I've played him personally on both Fifa and Madden while he was at home. I'm really thinking that guys are really starting to come to grips with what this whole deal is. I fully understand what they are not willing to do. They aren't going to repeat the debacle of Madden 06. Where the game is on current gen will be where it is built from this gen, features and all. Problem is, a lot of us feel that is a severely cracked foundation.
I was at work watching the one preview thread implode, and had an epiphany. Both parties were right. This game won't change greatly. Not while it sells millions of copies. The suits won't let it change. Fifa was a big loser in the soccer gaming wars when the big investment was made in it. Madden isn't in a war. Especially now that it doesn't even have to compete with NCAA. It really doesn't matter if the developers like it or not. This game is about marketing and sales, plain and simple. It's more about advertizing the NFL in a high profile very "playable" fashion. As long as it fulfills that goal, it will not be allowed to change much. This isn't some game based on the creative mind of a developer like CliffyB. It has a purpose to make both parties a boatload of cash.
I started to really lose hope when they had the Q&A with the director of the NFLPA. He basically stated he doesn't care about the quality of the game, just that the players make as much money as possible. In hindsight, I think that guys like Ian did have big dreams for the game. But were severely handcuffed. The situation with AJ was a perfect example. He wanted so badly to build the perfect Franchise mode. Poured his heart into it. It didn't fit the online business model. Sad.
Funny thing is, for all of the handcuffing and battling for the vision of the series, nobody seems to winning. This game is stuck in neutral. Like others have said, it's on marketing to work with the developers to have a neat "wow" feature every year. I am personally amused/bemused by this. Bit by bit, every major franchise and every major management position is being filled by the one team and studio that had the guts and talent to reinvent themselves. Fifa team and EAC. NBA Live has even turned to the head gameplay producer from Fifa12 from to try and raise their Titanic. I think that sometime in the future Madden will get made into a Fifa level game. But not until the game gets considered a "Triple Play." Fifa was an arcady game. Triple Play, too. There is only so long you can have a poorly playing game. Both those games had pretty faces and authentic players, uniforms, etc. But they ended up getting viewed as fakes, as the sports gaming industry passed them by. Madden will face that crisis, too. And Fifa will be it's huckleberry.
I loved watching the podcast with Pasta, and all. The dude straight out said it. Madden was okay, but he couldn't wait to get home and play Fifa. It's a better built game. Vision and execution. Only thing that Madden has propping it up is the fact that most American sports fans are rabid football fans. Most hate soccer. But with NBC pushing it in such a public way, and the fact that Fifa is a whale of a sports videogame, Madden is going to get pressure from a totally unexpected direction. Then they will finally be forced to peel back all the years of crappy code and build something worthy of SGOTY, and the league it's supposed to represent. I'll be wating and playing Fifa and NBA2k while they sort it out......

Madden 17, the best game eva!

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