Madden NFL 25 Video - MNF Simulation: Colts vs. Chargers (Xbox One)

[ghettogeeksta]

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Yep, even if the license were to end, how does anyone realistically expect a company to just swoop in and make an NFL game right away, if ever? I know some of you guys really love 2K5, and yes 2K8 was a GREAT game, but if the license were to end, 2K isn't going to come and magically rescue us from the situation we're in now.

Heck, APF 2K8 engine with updated rosters and next-gen graphics would be better than Madden. I can see the first couple of 2K football games being feature and game mode poor, but the game-play and presentation just outstanding! The features and game modes will come over time.

[Supersonic_BR]

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The NFL loves exclusive licenses. EA is a great partner for them.

I just don't see a realistic scenario of this happening. You think the NFL cares if the game isn't realistic enough, hell they don't even want roughness penalties in the game.

I know they don't care, and i even said that i blame the NFL way more than i blame EA for the exclusive license, i just think it's a bad business decision for them, and sales ARE going down, lately, Madden is nowhere near the sales juggernaut that it used to be.

How can't they track the level of satisfaction of their consumers?

[NBASLAM2001]

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Is EA trolling us? Their is no way they can put this out on MNF for casuals if us hardcore sports gamers can't even tell much of a difference.

[kehlis]

Re: Madden NFL 25 Video - MNF Simulation: Colts vs. Chargers (Xbox One)

What? It's Madden that wouldn't be able to compete with 2K. We all see how much better APF 2K8 is than the latest version of Madden, so what makes you think 2K wouldn't make a significantly better football game?

Honestly, Madden is done as soon as they lose the exclusive license.

I never said they couldn't make a better game, did you read my post?

If you think a different studio would swoop in and all of a sudden make a game that competes with Madden you are fooling yourself.

Because of the deal, no studios even have a framework for football games that they are working on right now.

Like I said, it would take years. Sure, I will welcome a new game years from now if and when it comes but they face sales goals and what you aren't thinking of is the perspective of the company.

Hypothetically. If the deal was dropped and 2k came out and made a game next year, we, the sim players, would love it.

The public? Not so much. And unfortunately we are in the minority.


YOu need sales in order to continue to make games. There is a reason when 2k first make their game they sold it for $20. I'm not so sure a price drop would still be an option.


I'm not arguing with you guys, I want the same thing you do. I'm just being realistic.

[Gosens6]

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Heck, APF 2K8 engine with updated rosters and next-gen graphics would be better than Madden. I can see the first couple of 2K football games being feature and game mode poor, but the game-play and presentation just outstanding! The features and game modes will come over time.

While I agree with this, it's not about the actual game itself, it's the money. Money drives EVERYTHING. Realistically, 2K couldn't just come in and get another NFL license without paying top dollar; And that's if the NFL even wants to do business with them again after their 20$ 2K5 fiasco.

It's all about making money, and that's what the NFL is doing right now with it's exclusive deal with EA. That's why when I hear all this 2K talk, I laugh. They will most likely not be making an NFL game again, and if they do, it won't be anytime in the near future

[Dr. Poe]

Looks decent. I hope they have sports center highlights like this in the game. That would be hot.

[Gjordan]

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Yep, even if the license were to end, how does anyone realistically expect a company to just swoop in and make an NFL game right away, if ever? I know some of you guys really love 2K5, and yes 2K8 was a GREAT game, but if the license were to end, 2K isn't going to come and magically rescue us from the situation we're in now.

Gotta start somewhere.

[Supersonic_BR]

Re: Madden NFL 25 Video - MNF Simulation: Colts vs. Chargers (Xbox One)

Looks decent. I hope they have sports center highlights like this in the game. That would be hot.

I would imagine they have, otherwise this would be another fail in this game, IMO. EA paid a lot of money for the ESPN license and i have yet to see they properly use it in a game.

[Gosens6]

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I would imagine they have, otherwise this would be another fail in this game, IMO. EA paid a lot of money for the ESPN license and i have yet to see they properly use it in a game.

And they haven't this year, and probably will continue to not use it. With the Madden devs, they want their own unique presentation in the game.

Can't give their customers realistic presentation, that would be giving us what we want! They'd be crazy to do that.

[TheBuddyHobbs]

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Back in the day 2K wasn't a big or popular name, but now I would say 2K is just as popular a name as EA is. NBA 2K has made a big name for 2K. 2K also just picked up the WWE games. The company is expanding and making a name for themselves. I don't know if you have seen the casuals comments on the next gen footage but they are as outraged as we the sim community are. NBA 2K is highly regarded amongst fans. At this time a 2K football game would definitely be able to compete with Madden. Back in the day 2K didn't have the name they have now. Times have changed and I would be willing to bet people would jump on the 2K bandwagon. They see what 2K has done for basketball and they are also getting tired of Madden. As a combo that is exactly what 2K football can take advantage of.

[jpdavis82]

Re: Madden NFL 25 Video - MNF Simulation: Colts vs. Chargers (Xbox One)

As if this whole thing couldn't get any more bizarre, look at these tweets from Phil Frazier, former executive producer for Madden.

Owen Good <s>@</s>owengood <small class="time"> 1h </small> ESPN corrected me, said they did not reupload today's Madden next-gen video. I asked why they took it down. They told me to ask EA Sports.


Phil Frazier <s>@</s>Fillycheze <small class="time"> 47m </small> <s>@</s>owengood That footage is clearly 360. My guess is the capture team didnt realize they had to use X1. It was probably pulled for that reason




Owen Good <s>@</s>owengood <small class="time"> 38m </small> I honestly—hand to God—thought ESPN had screwed up this morning, and used Xbox 360 Madden footage, calling it Xbox One.
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Phil Frazier <s>@</s>Fillycheze

<s>@</s>owengood This is not far from reality. EA probably marked it as X1 footage by mistake. Pulled it because it's not. That's 360 for sure.


.<s>@</s>Fillycheze But here's Saints-Dolphins, week 4 on ESPN. Description: "Yes, that is next-gen technology at work." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SE3wLTZDtM …
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Phil Frazier <s>@</s>Fillycheze

<s>@</s>owengood I dunno. That was added by ESPN. Very possible they thought it was next-gen. Strange that there is no X1 watermark on wk 4 footage

[TheBuddyHobbs]

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I don't believe that for one second, why? Because current gen the helmets do NOT shine like that at all.

[tfer717]

Re: Madden NFL 25 Video - MNF Simulation: Colts vs. Chargers (Xbox One)

As if this whole thing couldn't get any more bizarre, look at these tweets from Phil Frazier, former executive producer for Madden.

Owen Good <s>@</s>owengood <small class="time"> 1h </small> ESPN corrected me, said they did not reupload today's Madden next-gen video. I asked why they took it down. They told me to ask EA Sports.


Phil Frazier <s>@</s>Fillycheze <small class="time"> 47m </small> <s>@</s>owengood That footage is clearly 360. My guess is the capture team didnt realize they had to use X1. It was probably pulled for that reason




Owen Good <s>@</s>owengood <small class="time"> 38m </small> I honestly—hand to God—thought ESPN had screwed up this morning, and used Xbox 360 Madden footage, calling it Xbox One.
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Phil Frazier <s>@</s>Fillycheze

<s>@</s>owengood This is not far from reality. EA probably marked it as X1 footage by mistake. Pulled it because it's not. That's 360 for sure.


.<s>@</s>Fillycheze But here's Saints-Dolphins, week 4 on ESPN. Description: "Yes, that is next-gen technology at work." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SE3wLTZDtM …
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Phil Frazier <s>@</s>Fillycheze

<s>@</s>owengood I dunno. That was added by ESPN. Very possible they thought it was next-gen. Strange that there is no X1 watermark on wk 4 footage

what do they think that we are morons?? the coaches have headsets.

[Gosens6]

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Back in the day 2K wasn't a big or popular name, but now I would say 2K is just as popular a name as EA is. NBA 2K has made a big name for 2K. 2K also just picked up the WWE games. The company is expanding and making a name for themselves. I don't know if you have seen the casuals comments on the next gen footage but they are as outraged as we the sim community are. NBA 2K is highly regarded amongst fans. At this time a 2K football game would definitely be able to compete with Madden. Back in the day 2K didn't have the name they have now. Times have changed and I would be willing to bet people would jump on the 2K bandwagon. They see what 2K has done for basketball and they are also getting tired of Madden. As a combo that is exactly what 2K football can take advantage of.

No one is questioning that fact. What some of us are saying is this, can 2K afford another partnership with the NFL? Will the NFL actually end it's relationship with EA?? Will the NFL even want to do another partnership with 2K??

EA is a giant company, 2K is big, but nowhere near the level of EA. EA can comfortably afford an NFL license, no one knows if 2K can or not. We don't even know if 2K still has the resources to even attempt to make another football game.

The NFL LOVES it's relationship with EA, they're raking in big bucks, and contrary to what a lot of people believe, the NFL does not care how realistic this game is, as long as they're not painted in a bad light.

Also, let's not forget one of the reasons the NFL started this partnership with EA in the first place, 2K made them pretty mad selling 2K5 for $20, we have to question whether they would even want to work with 2K again.

I know guys are upset, and I know guys want another football game, but it's time to start thinking realistically

[NDAlum]

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It could be some type of special rendering. Either way, every single animation in that clip was canned animation. Nothing organic at all which is what we are all craving.

Either give us realistic, seamless animations that make physics sense or give us real time physics that look good.

Instead we get a mix of both done poorly.

Let's please stop the 2K/EA discussion, thank you.