Madden NFL 25 Video - MNF Simulation: Colts vs. Chargers (Xbox One)

[Danimal]

Re: Madden NFL 25 Video - MNF Simulation: Colts vs. Chargers (Xbox One)

Guys I believe it was asked once. Please lets not get into 2K, basketball merits etc.

[PVarck31]

Re: Madden NFL 25 Video - MNF Simulation: Colts vs. Chargers (Xbox One)

We've been shown and told so many different things, I don't what to think. While you could see some improvements in this video, that's not what a generational jump from a game should look like. Its what Madden 15 on current gen should look like.

Yes I saw double team pass blocking, looked good, but this shouldn't require next gen tech.

The video that came from EA last week looked pretty good. The movement looked better. Now this one comes out and the movement looks no better then current gen. Maybe a little, but not much.

I guess the one thing we won't be able to tell before launch without true prolonged gameplay is how much the AI has improved. If that's much better, I can accept other shortcomings.

Doesn't EA have some stuff coming out this week? True-step crap?

[TheBuddyHobbs]

Re: Madden NFL 25 Video - MNF Simulation: Colts vs. Chargers (Xbox One)

Not what I was getting at. What I was trying to say is, obviously this game is an untouched port of current gen, with the Ignite engine.

I'm not going to play this game, i'm not going to even give it a second look. What i'm saying is, they'll actually have time to develop a real next gen game for Madden 15. Whether it will be good or not is all up to them. I doubt it will be sim, I believe it will be the same dog and pony show. What i'm saying is, i'll judge them on a TRUE next gen scale with Madden 15.

I know what you were saying. I'm just so tired of seeing "next year" or "next game" at some point we need to either get a good game or another company to make one.

[kehlis]

Re: Madden NFL 25 Video - MNF Simulation: Colts vs. Chargers (Xbox One)

Nol EA probably expects Madden to sell a certain amount for the deal to be profitable.

Did I say anything to the contrary?

Again, what does that have to do with the NFL? That was your point of contention.

[TheBuddyHobbs]

Re: Madden NFL 25 Video - MNF Simulation: Colts vs. Chargers (Xbox One)

Did I say anything to the contrary?

Again, what does that have to do with the NFL? That was your point of contention.

I don't know if you are aware, but your avatar is broken.

[Gosens6]

Re: Madden NFL 25 Video - MNF Simulation: Colts vs. Chargers (Xbox One)

I know what you were saying. I'm just so tired of seeing "next year" or "next game" at some point we need to either get a good game or another company to make one.

I think we're all tired of it, as evidenced by this thread. I'm obviously just as pissed as everyone else is about what we're getting in a month. Which is why i'm not going to play it. I'll see what they offer next year, and if it's not up to par again, I simply won't play it.

Now if others follow suit, that's all up to them. It's the only way EA will ever learn, but too many people love the game of football to pass it up. Especially on their next gen consoles.

[ApolloKids]

Re: Madden NFL 25 Video - MNF Simulation: Colts vs. Chargers (Xbox One)

This was EA's last chance with me. I don't think I'll be following them over to Next Gen. It's kind of amazing that 2k will have a better football game now TWO generations removed from EA's current offering. What a shame.

[kehlis]

Re: Madden NFL 25 Video - MNF Simulation: Colts vs. Chargers (Xbox One)

I know what you were saying. I'm just so tired of seeing "next year" or "next game" at some point we need to either get a good game or another company to make one.

We all are, we are all on the same side here.

I don't know if you are aware, but your avatar is broken.

Yea, the guy that hacked the site Saturday changed it. Just haven't gotten around to fixing it yet.

[TheBuddyHobbs]

Re: Madden NFL 25 Video - MNF Simulation: Colts vs. Chargers (Xbox One)

I think we're all tired of it, as evidenced by this thread. I'm obviously just as pissed as everyone else is about what we're getting in a month. Which is why i'm not going to play it. I'll see what they offer next year, and if it's not up to par again, I simply won't play it.

Now if others follow suit, that's all up to them. It's the only way EA will ever learn, but too many people love the game of football to pass it up. Especially on their next gen consoles.

The problem is that we only make up a very small amount of the market. Everyone on OS could not buy Madden 25 next gen and it still wouldn't hurt them enough to make a change. The casuals will always blindly by the game because they need their football fix and updated rosters. I don't think we can ever win that way. We just have to hope EA changes their vision or another company will be allowed to make an NFL game. That is the only hope.

[Gosens6]

Re: Madden NFL 25 Video - MNF Simulation: Colts vs. Chargers (Xbox One)

Iv'e said it before, and i'll say it again. As long as online play dominates this game, EA will NEVER give us a truly sim game.

It will always be wide open, unrealistic gameplay where the defense is hampered. Because online players love the big highlight reel play and scoring points.

The tackles will always look over the top and ridiculous.

The jukes, spin moves, catches and animations will continue to be subpar. Want to know why? The online crowd doesn't mind when they can truck a defender, hurdle, spin, and then juke their way to victory, they thrive for that.

Presentation will continue to be unbelievably bad. Why? Because the online and tournament player doesn't want real time presentation, replays, cutaways and things like that cutting into their playing time.

It's a sad fact, but EA makes this game for the online/tournament player. Until that changes, don't have any hope of ever seeing a truly sim game, especially not in terms of presentation

[Cowboy008]

Re: Madden NFL 25 Video - MNF Simulation: Colts vs. Chargers (Xbox One)

I just watched it again and during the game you can see Luck's uniform is dirty but then when the game is over and he is shaking hands with his teammates his uniform is completely clean.

[Mholtz2j]

Re: Madden NFL 25 Video - MNF Simulation: Colts vs. Chargers (Xbox One)

Not even worth the $10 upgrade IMO.
If it is just a small upgrade from current gen, show them you're unhappy by not giving them any more money. Even the $10 upgrade.
When sales decline coupled with the NFL license fee, maybe hints change.

2K is building from the ground up on their next gen titles. Not sure why EA couldn't do the same thing.

[Danimal]

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Might not matter to the NFL but it DOES matter to the developer.

I haven't seen one person argue that. However what was said by the OP he thought it was a bad business decision by the NFL due to declining sales and poor quality.

I'll say again the NFL doesn't care about that when they are getting paid.

[TeeDogg]

Re: Madden NFL 25 Video - MNF Simulation: Colts vs. Chargers (Xbox One)

We've been shown and told so many different things, I don't what to think. While you could see some improvements in this video, that's not what a generational jump from a game should look like. Its what Madden 15 on current gen should look like.

Yes I saw double team pass blocking, looked good, but this shouldn't require next gen tech.

The video that came from EA last week looked pretty good. The movement looked better. Now this one comes out and the movement looks no better then current gen. Maybe a little, but not much.

I guess the one thing we won't be able to tell before launch without true prolonged gameplay is how much the AI has improved. If that's much better, I can accept other shortcomings.

Doesn't EA have some stuff coming out this week? True-step crap?

To me looked worse than current gen (animations). I just don't think something jives with the ESPN vids . I'm sure when EA releases some footage it will be better than that. It may not blow anyone away but it will be a different game than ESPN is showing.

[xnate128x]

LOL! OH WOW!

Lol wait what now? Are they piecing together current and next gen game play or something? I don't understand what they're trying to do marketing wise here. It's as if they're all getting high off of all kinds of drugs over there at Tiburon and ESPN. Absolutely none of what is being said, makes sense at all..... One person says one thing, and the other says something else. What are we even supposed to believe here? This is not what you do to get the consumers to want and purchase your product. Ugh.... This economy.....