NBA Live 14 Screenshot of John Wall

[Sundown]

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People are judging a brand new game based on it's history which isn't right if you ask me. People need to let bigons be bigons and stop bringing up old things that make no difference.

It absolutely makes a difference. The game is still being managed by EA. And if it's a new development house, then that studio has zero cred until they actually release a decent game, especially with a game as complicated as basketball. We also know from its development history that there is technology in there that has issues, and if they started from scratch, 18 months is NOT enough to build a realistic basketball game that compares to the other product.

In addition, everything they've shown (and not shown) hints that old problems still exist. If you pay any attention to the gameplay trailers, you'll see that the players in the background still animate in a jerky fashion when they change facing.

Bygones won't be bygones until they actually release a non-crappy product.

Anyway, you can't cite EA's legacy and treat Live as an actual brand that means anything while ignoring its past. You can't have it both ways.

It's obvious EA has some sort of schedule they want to release information on and it has nothing to do with how many people cry and whine for information.

Actually it's somewhat obvious that EA's schedule is based on how unready their product is. They promised 5v5 gameplay by the end of summer. That's not on us. Then they failed to release a followup video to Kyrie's "to be continued" layup attempt for a whole month. All some of us are saying is, hey, EA could surprise us, but open your eyes. It's not a good look, and some folks are being way too gracious with EA as Live fans (again fans of what?) while being incredulous when others don't share their unjustified optimism.

[NoTiCe_O]

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Man stop. These people are the consumer. You dobt satisfy them then your product dies as simple as that. There is no entitlement..without these fans this series is doomed to fail...

EA knows alot about that too dont they? So yes if they repeat the same past mistakes they may as well hang up nba basketball for good. We've already had about 5 different basketball games die and this series is no exception. Ignore your fans and you end up stuck with another title not enough people care for to sustain a reason for you to justify a large budget. Don't be fooled

Galaxy Note 2

Thing is it's not like they're ignoring the consumer, they're releasing information but it''s not good enough for all these "self-entitled" fans (or consumers).

It's obvious they're still working on the game, Scott even said it on the podcast (I think a lot of people need to listen to it). They don't want to release anymore work in progress videos. To be honest, I can sense the bitterness in your post "EA knows alot about that too dont they?"... "Don't be fooled". If you have a grudge against EA fine, but don't take it out on a game you know nothing about.

EA isn't forcing anyone to buy their game, you don't have to warn us of EA's evil ways we've seen the articles and witnessed football games be monopolized. Still, we can all make the knowledgeable decision based on facts. If you fall for the trolls that say "Pre-ordering immediately!" or "Way better than 2k, not even close!" then that's on you, but the ball don't lie. Soon enough EA will have to put up or shut up, but that doesn't mean we have to degrade every piece of info we see.

EA is capable of making good games, and if you look toward the future, this has the potential to be one of them.

[P-Dub]

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colors look a little washed and that looks like the ball i use when I play outside. Looks like it's been around lol.

Well, the NBA does break in the new basketballs before they are put into a live game. It still looks a little desaturated.

[ClevelandinDistress]

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[King_B_Mack]

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Thing is it's not like they're ignoring the consumer, they're releasing information but it''s not good enough for all these "self-entitled" fans (or consumers).

It's obvious they're still working on the game, Scott even said it on the podcast (I think a lot of people need to listen to it). They don't want to release anymore work in progress videos. To be honest, I can sense the bitterness in your post "EA knows alot about that too dont they?"... "Don't be fooled". If you have a grudge against EA fine, but don't take it out on a game you know nothing about.

EA isn't forcing anyone to buy their game, you don't have to warn us of EA's evil ways we've seen the articles and witnessed football games be monopolized. Still, we can all make the knowledgeable decision based on facts. If you fall for the trolls that say "Pre-ordering immediately!" or "Way better than 2k, not even close!" then that's on you, but the ball don't lie. Soon enough EA will have to put up or shut up, but that doesn't mean we have to degrade every piece of info we see.

EA is capable of making good games, and if you look toward the future, this has the potential to be one of them.

Here's the thing though, if there's negatives in something, then why is there an issue saying that? You're talking about degrade every piece of info we see, if it's not something good or doesn't really show anything we need to see and people say that, why are you running in like Superman to save Live? Are you saying every thing they've released is completely perfect with no issues?

Telling people to wait until you play the game for yourself and all this other talk is just noise that doesn't help anything. By the time you try it for yourself the game is made and there's nothing to be done, they have your $60 already and have already started working on the next year's version of the game implimenting the same **** you just found out you don't like because you sat around waiting to see if it felt different from how it looked. I don't even know why I'm explaining this because we've talked about this before. People have done the don't question the bad that you're looking at approach for over half a decade with Live/EA Sports and it didn't help the series at all. But then we're not supposed to talk about the past cause it doesn't matter for some reason.

[RodDixon]

EA needs a new next-gen art designer. This looks PS3.5-ish

These pictures are mostly from an XBOX 1.

[NoTiCe_O]

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Here's the thing though, if there's negatives in something, then why is there an issue saying that? You're talking about degrade every piece of info we see, if it's not something good or doesn't really show anything we need to see and people say that, why are you running in like Superman to save Live? Are you saying every thing they've released is completely perfect with no issues?

Telling people to wait until you play the game for yourself and all this other talk is just noise that doesn't help anything. By the time you try it for yourself the game is made and there's nothing to be done, they have your $60 already and have already started working on the next year's version of the game implimenting the same **** you just found out you don't like because you sat around waiting to see if it felt different from how it looked. I don't even know why I'm explaining this because we've talked about this before. People have done the don't question the bad that you're looking at approach for over half a decade with Live/EA Sports and it didn't help the series at all. But then we're not supposed to talk about the past cause it doesn't matter for some reason.

What?? that's the exact opposite of talk and noise, it action! If the only time you try a game is when you buy it then I can see why you'd be upset, but where I'm from we have stores like Gamestop and Best Buy that let you play actual games before you buy'em. You can rent, or even go on youtube and watch other people who've spent their hard earned money test the game for you, even review it.

Never in all my years of gaming have I seen Live come out and say try it for yourself, usually they NEED the marketing to sell games, the fact that they're holding off on marketing to actually work on the game tells me that the game can speak for itself. (Good Or Bad, who knows yet?)

I don't know about you but I do my research before I buy things, and Live will be no different. With the internet it doesn't cost me anything but a little time to research and see if the game is right for me. I don't care if last years game was the worst game ever made, what'd you do this year is on my mind, because I like the sport, and don't hold grudges.

[Shakedowncapo]

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Round and around we go...

[RodDixon]

If you look at the 51 second gameplay trailer for NBA Live 14, when Kyrie takes the ball into the lane, Kyrie is taking a step with his right foot. When the next angle pops up he is still taking his step with his right foot, but in that frame the replay is about a second behind what it is supposed to be. This gives the illusion of him travelling, but in reality he did not travel, the video just makes it seem like he did, but he is just continuing his step.

[23]

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Thing is it's not like they're ignoring the consumer, they're releasing information but it''s not good enough for all these "self-entitled" fans (or consumers).

It's obvious they're still working on the game, Scott even said it on the podcast (I think a lot of people need to listen to it). They don't want to release anymore work in progress videos. To be honest, I can sense the bitterness in your post "EA knows alot about that too dont they?"... "Don't be fooled". If you have a grudge against EA fine, but don't take it out on a game you know nothing about.

EA isn't forcing anyone to buy their game, you don't have to warn us of EA's evil ways we've seen the articles and witnessed football games be monopolized. Still, we can all make the knowledgeable decision based on facts. If you fall for the trolls that say "Pre-ordering immediately!" or "Way better than 2k, not even close!" then that's on you, but the ball don't lie. Soon enough EA will have to put up or shut up, but that doesn't mean we have to degrade every piece of info we see.

EA is capable of making good games, and if you look toward the future, this has the potential to be one of them.

If you stop catching feelings and stuff and get your emotion out of the posts from defending this game so much it might be easier on the blood pressure.

At this point, nobody cares what SOG says because frankly its put up or shut up time for EA and this series. They've said too much already and didn't deliver and people arent hanging on their every word as you may have noticed. Its something that didnt work out too well in the past, buzzwords, new tech and the game still either came out like crap or got cancelled.

Now if they arent advertising to the people here, then who are they advertising to? Casuals who don't play bball? Most of those people dont give a rats tail about this game thats for sure so who is it?

If all you want to do is hope this series escapes harsh criticism, it's not going to happen. It happens to every other game, and the point is, this is the only one that has had multiple years to get it together, so the call for patience is gone.

People dont even trust them and if the site asks someone what they think about a screen, and someone notices that the entire arena is totally seperated from the game, someone will say that. Its one thing to tell someone they can't say that because its hating, and another to say what you see and move on.

Im about done because no matter how much is typed, nobody is trying to see anything different and EA is still sitting back ducking releasing footage they promised and tap danced back on so hard Gregory Hines would be proud.

[RayRay34]

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Why is it every time I read a post from 23 I just picture some guy screaming at the top of his lungs thinking that will help get the point across. It must just be the tone of it.... Just my observation, and my own perception of it.... Nothing to read into about it I just wanted to express my thoughts on it.

That is what passion is I guess.

[23]

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Why is it every time I read a post from 23 I just picture some guy screaming at the top of his lungs thinking that will help get the point across. It must just be the tone of it.... Just my observation, and my own perception of it.... Nothing to read into about it I just wanted to express my thoughts on it.

That is what passion is I guess.

I'll give you my cell phone number and you can hear how loud my voice is not

[magicman32]

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It will be interesting to see what Live brings to the table. Kyrie dribbling looked good. These screens don't wow me.

But for the life of me, I still don't know what this was....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxVENsPOSg8

[RayRay34]

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Sorry just the way I always hear them in my mind when I read them. You're gonna fight this EA thing to the bitter end aren't you? Until they show something you won't give them any benefit of the doubt... Like I said passion..... Tiring maybe, but passion to say the least.

Part of the reason I try to avoid this forum (NBA live in particular) to many voices wanting to be heard and not enough constructive talk about the game. Preach on ya'll it's enjoyable at least.

[23]

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Sorry just the way I always hear them in my mind when I read them. You're gonna fight this EA thing to the bitter end aren't you? Until they show something you won't give them any benefit of the doubt... Like I said passion..... Tiring maybe, but passion to say the least.

Part of the reason I try to avoid this forum (NBA live in particular) to many voices wanting to be heard and not enough constructive talk about the game. Preach on ya'll it's enjoyable at least.

If you're saying I want them to show me what they have then sure I do. Im not fighting anything... There is no reason for a benefit of the doubt, we already went down that road didnt we?

You know is tiring though, marketing deception, backtracking and ducking, having only 1 basketball game on the market because 1 company decided it was better to do what it wanted to do rather than listen to its fans.

Point in here even though I tried to reiterate it a few times and it was ignored, I never said I hated the screen, didn't say it didn't look like John Wall, and frankly it doesn't impress me to the point im going to buy the game, so might as well show me what you have so I can decide and stop delaying the inevitable.