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  • jake19ny
    MVP
    • Mar 2011
    • 1938

    #1

    Possible Discovery that answers many complaints

    Ok Bear with me on this. We all know that there were complaints about sliders not saving for play-now games... well I think the issue is deeper. I have been complaining about lack of penalties, others about the big hits and to many fights, and most recent with the new patch bouncing pucks....among other gameplay issues. Well I think I have found the problem. There are 3 Game Styles to choose from and each very different. High Impact, Simulation, and Hardcore Simulation. We all select one and us guys who want realistic sim hockey choose Hardcore Simulation. However once you move a single slider it becomes Custom. On the surface thats fine and I have found a slider set that works for me and when I set it up I play and have a great realistic (best we can get) game with good amount of penalty calls and what not. When I save my season and start again my settings are all still the same but all of a sudden the gameplay feels different and back to lack of calls....This also happened last year in NHL 13. Now my discovery. I downloaded the update and played a game. It was horrid. The hitting was over the top I had 4 fights in the first period resulting from hits and the puck was bouncing like a super ball all over the place. I checked my settings and everything was as I had saved it previously....So I thought I have to delete the patch it sucks. Then it hit me. I exited the game started a new one and before I played I reset the settings starting on Superstar and Hardcore Simulation and then reset all my sliders to how they were. Boom my game was great again the solid play was back the realistic and good variety of penalty calls were back. I think the sliders do work in this game after all but somehow our gamestyle changes when we restart. It will still say custom and your sliders will be set but the gamestyle varies from High Impact (which is what I experienced after the patch) to Hardcore Simulation. It must be some kind of deep seeded bug. This explains why we think we fidn good sliders only to think otherwise after a few games. It also explains why some guys were getting good calls and some were not. Guys were posting to play in Superstar Hardcore Simulation and not change anything and that makes sense. However we dont have to do that. You can use custom sliders but need to set them everygame. Start over with Hardcore Simulation and then change your sliders from there. Please let me know if anybody gives this a try and finds it to be true. Im sure Im on to something because my games and simmed games in my season have been solid since doing this and I now love NHL 14.
  • jack72
    Banned
    • Oct 2010
    • 196

    #2
    Re: Possible Discovery that answers many complaints

    Intersting if true....

    So what your are saying is...
    If I am playing a season mode offline, and normally play Hardcore superstar, adjust my sliders for one game....at the next game, I should pick reset to default...and then enter in my sliders again.

    Repeat this at every new game for the whole season?

    If it works,,fine
    But in NHL13 I didn't reset, and found the games pretty equal in season mode. I did jump quite a bit between superstar and All star and rest a few sliders before each game though. That for me was the best version of NHL series I have played.

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    • jake19ny
      MVP
      • Mar 2011
      • 1938

      #3
      Re: Possible Discovery that answers many complaints

      Yep. You dont even have to restore to default. Just switch Custom back to Hardcore Simulation and it resets the sliders to the original Hardcore Sim sliders then reset your sliders to your liking. Its working for me for about 9 games now.

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      • sweetjones
        Rookie
        • Jan 2007
        • 381

        #4
        Re: Possible Discovery that answers many complaints

        How do we make th devs aware of this issue?

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        • jake19ny
          MVP
          • Mar 2011
          • 1938

          #5
          Re: Possible Discovery that answers many complaints

          Originally posted by sweetjones
          How do we make th devs aware of this issue?
          Well before we go ringing the alarm to EA and I look like a jackass I would like a few people to test this and see if Im right. I think I am as it continues to work for me but I wold like to know Im not crazy.

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          • sweetjones
            Rookie
            • Jan 2007
            • 381

            #6
            Re: Possible Discovery that answers many complaints

            So what game modes have u tested so far?

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            • jake19ny
              MVP
              • Mar 2011
              • 1938

              #7
              Re: Possible Discovery that answers many complaints

              Originally posted by sweetjones
              So what game modes have u tested so far?
              Play Now and Offline Season. Its really the only ones I play but if there is some kind of deep seeded bug I would think it should do it in all modes.

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              • sweetjones
                Rookie
                • Jan 2007
                • 381

                #8
                Re: Possible Discovery that answers many complaints

                cool. I normally play BAGM mode but im gonna wait til later in the NHL season. I'll test this in Play Now also.

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                • mikeymayhem
                  Pro
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 618

                  #9
                  Re: Possible Discovery that answers many complaints

                  so set your sliders every game sounds painful.

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                  • TDKing
                    MVP
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 1845

                    #10
                    Re: Possible Discovery that answers many complaints

                    So what your saying is sliders aren't saving :o

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                    • jake19ny
                      MVP
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 1938

                      #11
                      Re: Possible Discovery that answers many complaints

                      Originally posted by TDKing
                      So what your saying is sliders aren't saving :o
                      Its not so much the sliders are not saving as it is the game play mode is not saving. It will say custom because you changed the sliders and your sliders will still be where you set them but if you started on Hardcore Sim you may end up with a game playing like High Impact or Simulation. The most notable for me was when I discovered this. My sliders were all still set and saved from when I set them after selecting Hardcore Simulation and having good games but when I played a game the next day I was trucking everyone, getting in fights left and right, bad puck physics, bad overall game play....I double checked my sliders and all were where they should be but the game was different. I quit, the game and reset my sliders from scratch starting by selecting Hardcore simulation and my game was back to normal. It continues to work for me. My games are near perfect (we will never get perfect sim) shots, hitting, time of possesion, penalties, score....very happy. Simmed games seem great as well. Its annoying but after doing it a few times I have my sliders memeorized and do it in mere seconds.

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                      • PPerfect_CJ
                        MVP
                        • Oct 2011
                        • 3693

                        #12
                        Re: Possible Discovery that answers many complaints

                        Tried out your theory in my Be A GM. Unfortunately, it didn't work. Played the same. The patch pretty much made this almost unplayable for me. Guess I may hafta delete it, which sucks, because then I lose the new division names and the BIP custom music. It's either that or crank up my sliders and lower the CPU's. I'm not on the level of all these people that claim this game is too easy. First hockey game I've bought since NHL' 02.
                        #LFC
                        #ChiefsKingdom
                        #STLCards
                        #WeAreND

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                        • jake19ny
                          MVP
                          • Mar 2011
                          • 1938

                          #13
                          Re: Possible Discovery that answers many complaints

                          Originally posted by PPerfect_CJ
                          Tried out your theory in my Be A GM. Unfortunately, it didn't work. Played the same. The patch pretty much made this almost unplayable for me. Guess I may hafta delete it, which sucks, because then I lose the new division names and the BIP custom music. It's either that or crank up my sliders and lower the CPU's. I'm not on the level of all these people that claim this game is too easy. First hockey game I've bought since NHL' 02.
                          Did you redo the sliders just before starting the game. Dont do it in your settings you have to select your next game and do it in the pre-game menu.

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                          • PPerfect_CJ
                            MVP
                            • Oct 2011
                            • 3693

                            #14
                            Re: Possible Discovery that answers many complaints

                            Originally posted by jake19ny
                            Did you redo the sliders just before starting the game. Dont do it in your settings you have to select your next game and do it in the pre-game menu.
                            Nah, I did it in settings. Guess I'll give that a try. Thanks.
                            #LFC
                            #ChiefsKingdom
                            #STLCards
                            #WeAreND

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                            • jake19ny
                              MVP
                              • Mar 2011
                              • 1938

                              #15
                              Re: Possible Discovery that answers many complaints

                              Originally posted by PPerfect_CJ
                              Nah, I did it in settings. Guess I'll give that a try. Thanks.
                              Let me know how it works out Im curious.

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