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  • Vni
    Hall Of Fame
    • Sep 2011
    • 14833

    #301
    Re: NBA Live 14: 5-on5 Gameplay Video Coming Friday, Here is a Teaser

    Originally posted by Skopin
    He stayed on Gasol. Lillard's reaction is an issue, but I don't see anything wrong with Aldridge staying on the screener. Lopez rotated over to prevent the layup. Defensively, the play wasn't as bad as everyone is making it out to be. If Lillard would have moved realistically, there really wouldn't be anything troubling from a defensive standpoint. I'll take that play all day over this:
    <iframe src="//www.youtube.com/embed/HmfPwi5xh5g" allowfullscreen="" width="420" frameborder="0" height="315"></iframe>
    They're trapping on D Wade. That's just a dumb strategy.

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    • DBMcGee3
      MVP
      • Oct 2011
      • 1166

      #302
      Wow, I know it's only a 3 second video but that was underwhelming to say the least. Very intrigued for the 'real' gameplay footage.

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      • Skopin
        Banned
        • Aug 2010
        • 307

        #303
        Re: NBA Live 14: 5-on5 Gameplay Video Coming Friday, Here is a Teaser

        Originally posted by Vni
        They're trapping on D Wade. That's just a dumb strategy.
        That was 100% AI controlled.

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        • Vni
          Hall Of Fame
          • Sep 2011
          • 14833

          #304
          Re: NBA Live 14: 5-on5 Gameplay Video Coming Friday, Here is a Teaser

          Originally posted by Skopin
          That was 100% AI controlled.
          I can't recall me saying Nba 2K's AI was perfect. It's far from that actually.

          I don't even know why you're bringing Nba 2K footage into this. There are thousands of threads in the Nba 2K forums about how bad the AI/rosters/sliders is/are there.

          Although I don't mind what happens in that gameplay. The AI uses the wrong strategy and what happens is what would happen IRL. Perkins is too slow to catch D Wade, D wade gets by them and passes to a wide open bosh for the dunk.

          Nothing wrong here except that the AI used the wrong strategy at this moment.

          I get your point I guess though. I guess it's debatable that LA could stay on Gasol but this close to the rim and the Steve Nash's lane to the rim I'am sure he takes step to put his body between Nash and the rim.

          But yeah definately not what's worse about that short Live video.
          Last edited by Vni; 10-17-2013, 10:04 AM.

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          • stillfeelme
            MVP
            • Aug 2010
            • 2406

            #305
            Re: NBA Live 14 5 on 5 Gameplay Video Coming Friday, Here is a Teaser

            Video overall was unimpressive
            • It is like they had to keep some parts of Elite or Live 13 but that crouching stance should have been re-done. They need to motion capture again ASAP. Make it user controlled as it is an eye sore to me.
            • What the hell was Lilliard doing and this is something they released as a teaser? Wow I hope that was all user controlled.
            • Steve Nash doesn't look next gen to me. He looks cartoony hope that is not the case for everyone not fully scanned.
            • Most impressed by the ball.

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            • the_future420
              MVP
              • Jul 2002
              • 3086

              #306
              Re: NBA Live 14 5 on 5 Gameplay Video Coming Friday, Here is a Teaser

              I'm not even that mad at the 5 second clip, I'm reserving judgment until Friday.
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              • Jasong7777
                All Star
                • May 2005
                • 6415

                #307
                Re: NBA Live 14 5 on 5 Gameplay Video Coming Friday, Here is a Teaser

                Looked terrible.
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                • CMH
                  Making you famous
                  • Oct 2002
                  • 26203

                  #308
                  Re: NBA Live 14 5 on 5 Gameplay Video Coming Friday, Here is a Teaser

                  Surprise, people hate the trailer and people like what they see!

                  Nothing new here. Moving on.

                  Play what makes you happy.


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                  "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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                  • kgbrolic
                    Rookie
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 126

                    #309
                    2K is releasing their next gen video today. Maybe within a few hours according to Ronnie2k's last tweet. This is the moment Ive been waiting for...

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                    • KSOR24
                      Pro
                      • Jul 2011
                      • 949

                      #310
                      Re: NBA Live 14 5 on 5 Gameplay Video Coming Friday, Here is a Teaser

                      I thought the player models looked awful. One thing I don't understand is why people are making fun of Nash's face when 2K's Nash has always looked like an emancipated woman. Although this is next gen, you're still going to have some odd looking faces. But look at guys like Lillard, Wall, Irving, and all those other guards. They look great.

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                      • Skopin
                        Banned
                        • Aug 2010
                        • 307

                        #311
                        Re: NBA Live 14: 5-on5 Gameplay Video Coming Friday, Here is a Teaser

                        Originally posted by Vni

                        Although I don't mind what happens in that gameplay. The AI uses the wrong strategy and what happens is what would happen IRL. Perkins is too slow to catch D Wade, D wade gets by them and passes to a wide open bosh for the dunk.

                        Nothing wrong here except that the AI used the wrong strategy at this moment.
                        The hypocrisy in this is jarring. If you really can't see anything wrong in that clip, then you are either blind, or know nothing about basketball. You said that the defensive AI for the 9 second Live clip was poor. You were upset that Aldridge didn't hedge, yet the play resulted in a floater over a defender (ie. not an open layup).

                        In the clip I posted, poor AI resulted in Perkins chasing after Wade because of a screen on a defender (Durant) that wasn't even guarding the ball handler (Wade). In fact, he never even got in front of Wade. He then proceeds to run past Wade toward half-court, effectively rendering the "hedge" useless.

                        But Durant stepped over to guard Bosh on the roll, which was great...until it wasn't, and he just stopped moving altogether, giving Bosh an uncontested dunk.

                        Meanwhile, throughout most of the clip, the defense is standing in that hunchback posture that everyone hates so much. Please keep in mind that this is not a one-off occurrence. If it was, I wouldn't think twice about it. But it happens multiple times per game.

                        The problem is that people are too caught up in graphics and flashy dunks than fundamental basketball and intelligent AI. Yes, Live clearly doesn't move as smoothly as 2k. But under the hood, it makes for a much more realistic game, at least when comparing those two clips. I don't care who makes it; I just want a realistic game of basketball, with intelligent AI.

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                        • MrBigShot1
                          Rookie
                          • Aug 2010
                          • 490

                          #312
                          Re: NBA Live 14: 5-on5 Gameplay Video Coming Friday, Here is a Teaser

                          I'm going to be 100% honest. If I didn't know what game I was watching and had to guess, I would've guessed Live 10.

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                          • CMH
                            Making you famous
                            • Oct 2002
                            • 26203

                            #313
                            Re: NBA Live 14: 5-on5 Gameplay Video Coming Friday, Here is a Teaser

                            Originally posted by Skopin
                            The hypocrisy in this is jarring.
                            You guys make me laugh. The internet has been around for how many years now and still people want to argue with those that have already made up their minds?

                            Let it go. You're not winning anything with your post.

                            99% of forum arguments start from two people bullishly trying to convince the other that they are right. The other 1% are those that try to argue with my percentages.
                            "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                            "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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                            • headsteez
                              Rookie
                              • Nov 2002
                              • 41

                              #314
                              I think to many people are just plain hating. Its a mob mentality around here. I remember NBA Inside Drive back in the day. It didn't have good graphics or animations, but it was a very good basketball game. A lot guys didn't catch on till the 2004 version drop. I was playing it since they first made the series. Lets give Live a chance. Its gonna be rough around the edges, but if the foundation is solid it will make a good basketball sim.
                              I can only keep it real.

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                              • Skopin
                                Banned
                                • Aug 2010
                                • 307

                                #315
                                Re: NBA Live 14: 5-on5 Gameplay Video Coming Friday, Here is a Teaser

                                Originally posted by CMH
                                You guys make me laugh. The internet has been around for how many years now and still people want to argue with those that have already made up their minds?

                                Let it go. You're not winning anything with your post.

                                99% of forum arguments start from two people bullishly trying to convince the other that they are right. The other 1% are those that try to argue with my percentages.
                                Well played, sir.

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