Operation Sports - Press Row Podcast: Madden NFL 25 Next-Gen with Vic Lugo

[adub88]

Re: Operation Sports - Press Row Podcast: Madden NFL 25 Next-Gen with Vic Lugo

The trailer doesn't need to be discussed, but it does pertain to this interview. His comment was not to expect a big graphical jump, now if he meant only in relation to Madden then fine, but it certainly seems like he was trying to imply that next gen would not be a big graphical jump. 2K just bascially crushed that theory to dust. That is an massive jump from current gen and that is gameplay in the trailer not pre-rendered.

Couldn't agree more. I really didn't want to post that video, but I felt compelled especially after listening to Vic in that interview.

[kenlovin]

Re: Operation Sports - Press Row Podcast: Madden NFL 25 Next-Gen with Vic Lugo

I haven't listened yet, but it will be the same regurgitated thing as before. "450 new (insert animation of your choice here)". Yet we see the same ones over and over. Or how momentum is supposed to matter. It is? Like when I hit the running back in the backfield, he's flat footed, yet goes into that ridiculous looking spinning animation as he's falling FORWARD for 8 yards? Momentum?

I'm fully expecting softballs from Rich. Rich is a great guy and I enjoy his game coverage, but he is really soft on the Madden guys because he's friends with them. I'm not counting on this being anything to get excited about.

Why even comment if you havent listened yet...

[TeeDogg]

Re: Operation Sports - Press Row Podcast: Madden NFL 25 Next-Gen with Vic Lugo

I like the direction gameplay is heading (CG) so if they are really improving and polishing it I'm fine with it. I'm just expecting it to look and animate better than CG and much better than the ESPN vids. If they can just give me that along with a more stable game and sliders I'll take it

[poster]

Re: Operation Sports - Press Row Podcast: Madden NFL 25 Next-Gen with Vic Lugo

I feel all developers/marketing people are liars in the gaming industry. Been around too long and hear it every year. I think the MLB The Show guys who visit are the only real trustworthy ones. EA Sports are clearly the worst culprits of this by far. I like it here, so I won't say much more about what I think of that.

I say all of this, as Vic's words mean nothing to me. He talked up this Infinity half arse crap for the last two years, and it has been a joke. Until I see realistic player movement, interaction between players and real tackling between players, I won't believe a thing. I want it to be good, but I know better.

This part concerns me:

With new proprietary tools inside of Ignite, that are shared with FIFA, have the ability to create realistic run curves and acceleration curves and test them before they are implemented into the game. Had an adjustment phase where it looked perfect at one point but responsiveness didn't match what you are capable of as a player, so went back and modeled stutter steps and slow downs to be responsive, wasn't easy, but feels good at this point and once people get their hands on it, they won't want to go back.

We'll see, but I assume with their track record that they made it more responsive for casuals instead of making it more true to human life running and movements.

Anyways, real unedited gameplay is needed. I guess the ESPN nonsense is real gameplay, but I am looking for a camera filming it on screen so we can see it as we would play the game.

One last point. The lack of a graphical upgrade is laughable considering what else I saw today, and what I know I will see in March during the baseball game release.

[Cowboy008]

Re: Operation Sports - Press Row Podcast: Madden NFL 25 Next-Gen with Vic Lugo

Can't take anything he says really serious I need to see actual gameplay.

[slick589]

Re: Operation Sports - Press Row Podcast: Madden NFL 25 Next-Gen with Vic Lugo

Can we get some damn gameplay videos?

[MrBlackThumbz]

I aint even listen to the podcast because I just want to see a video of everything they have been saying since may

[Lexicon]

Re: Operation Sports - Press Row Podcast: Madden NFL 25 Next-Gen with Vic Lugo

I found the interview to be very encouraging and reassuring to my thought of videos not mattering much. Even though I'm not down on the videos they've released so far, I've believe this whole time that we won't notice a huge leap until we get a controller in our hands. Graphically, there's not much further to go than what we got on gen 3 without it becoming a point-and-click adventure game. Anyone who thought that trailer at E3 with RGIII was real gameplay footage was kidding themselves. They'll believe an obvious CGI trailer is gameplay just because EA puts a thing up that says it's gameplay, but they won't believe a video uploaded by ESPN (given to them by EA) is not next-gen when it's obvious there are things different from gen 3. As for the other trailer that was show around the same time, the one with AP and RGIII, I believe the game WILL look that good... slowed down and zoomed in. That's just the way it is. We'll definitely be seeing a lot of screenshots and videos once the game comes out verifying this because of the new features on the PS4 and XBOX One

I look forward to the new run system, blocking, lighting, deeper commentary, and overall polish coming on November 15th. Color me optimistic, I guess

[TheBuddyHobbs]

Re: Operation Sports - Press Row Podcast: Madden NFL 25 Next-Gen with Vic Lugo

I found the interview to be very encouraging and reassuring to my thought of videos not mattering much. Even though I'm not down on the videos they've released so far, I've believe this whole time that we won't notice a huge leap until we get a controller in our hands. Graphically, there's not much further to go than what we got on gen 3 without it becoming a point-and-click adventure game. Anyone who thought that trailer at E3 with RGIII was real gameplay footage was kidding themselves. They'll believe an obvious CGI trailer is gameplay just because EA puts a thing up that says it's gameplay, but they won't believe a video uploaded by ESPN (given to them by EA) is not next-gen when it's obvious there are things different from gen 3. As for the other trailer that was show around the same time, the one with AP and RGIII, I believe the game WILL look that good... slowed down and zoomed in. That's just the way it is. We'll definitely be seeing a lot of screenshots and videos once the game comes out verifying this because of the new features on the PS4 and XBOX One

I look forward to the new run system, blocking, lighting, deeper commentary, and overall polish coming on November 15th. Color me optimistic, I guess

There isn't much further than we can go graphically? I think that next gen basketball video we saw today says you're wrong... Dead wrong.

[Lexicon]

Re: Operation Sports - Press Row Podcast: Madden NFL 25 Next-Gen with Vic Lugo

There isn't much further than we can go graphically? I think that next gen basketball video we saw today says you're wrong... Dead wrong.

It looked good, but that's not a huge jump from what 2K was doing to me. I think Madden stacks up similarly when you do side by side comparisons as far as graphical improvements go.

My main point about that was: This is not a PS1 blocky polygon to PS2 smooth polygon leap this time around.

[RateSports]

Re: Operation Sports - Press Row Podcast: Madden NFL 25 Next-Gen with Vic Lugo

It looked good, but that's not a huge jump from what 2K was doing to me. I think Madden stacks up similarly when you do side by side comparisons as far as graphical improvements go.

Hahahahahahaha this is classic.

[Senator Palmer]

Re: Operation Sports - Press Row Podcast: Madden NFL 25 Next-Gen with Vic Lugo

Sooooo, don't expect a huge graphical upgrade despite the fact that the very first blog they choose to release is dedicated to how good the game looks?




yeah... I guess that makes sense...

[jpdavis82]

Re: Operation Sports - Press Row Podcast: Madden NFL 25 Next-Gen with Vic Lugo

There isn't much further than we can go graphically? I think that next gen basketball video we saw today says you're wrong... Dead wrong.

That's not what Victor said, he said there WILL be some impressive things that we see especially in the future as the developers learn the capabilities of the hardware, but initially he feels that the focus of most developers will be on what can be done gameplay wise with the new tech and power at hand.

IF NBA 2k is the same gameplay wise as current gen and just a graphical upgrade, albeit impressive, I would say that we would be just as much of a let down too. The bottom line is we need to see gameplay footage of these games not just trailers before we get too excited/disappointed. My disappointment about Madden right now is based on the gameplay footage I saw even thought it wasn't very long, it was still actual gameplay.

[Lexicon]

Re: Operation Sports - Press Row Podcast: Madden NFL 25 Next-Gen with Vic Lugo

Sooooo, don't expect a huge graphical upgrade despite the fact that the very first blog they choose to release is dedicated to how good the game looks?




yeah... I guess that makes sense...

I think the game looks good. Can't tell you how to feel about it, but I have no qualms with what I've seen so far.

[TyghtWork]

Re: Operation Sports - Press Row Podcast: Madden NFL 25 Next-Gen with Vic Lugo

The look of Madden gen 3 wasn't the problem, it was the way the players moved and played. If that's fixed i'll be happy!!!!!!!!