NBA Live 14 Gameplay Trailer

[Boilerbuzz]

Re: NBA Live 14 Gameplay Trailer

i don't care if ppl didn't like the trailer. "looked better than I expected" because I wasn't expecting much. expected them to put out a game and improve in live 15. don't know what high expectations some of you had.

As I've said before, I'm one of the few people that tried to warn folks not to get their hopes up too high? Why:

1. The team wasn't fully staffed until 18 months ago.
2. The staff is WILDLY inexperienced. Just because Sean O'Brian is leading it, doesn't make up for the hundreds of people that actually have to make the game. O'Gallagher is new to this as well. But just because he played in Europe, he's a natural for game design?
3. We're dealing with Tiburon. A studio pretty notorious lately. But more importantly, a studio that had lost some KEY talent recently AND may be doing too much for it to handle.
4. If they took Live 10, Live 13, or Elite 11, they were STILL going to start from a foundation that was clearly below that of 2K.

So with those points, why in the hell would ANYONE believe that the game was supposed to be good, let alone groundbreaking. So, with my limited time with it at E3, I pretty much expected what you saw in the trailer. Not saying it would be bad. Just have some obvious warts. And, I KNEW some people would hate it. So, I too didn't expect too much. But I fully expect some folks to roast them. It shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. If others didn't come in threads to over-hype Ignite and Bouncetek, the backlash (a reason it's called "backlash") wouldn't be as strong.

[Boilerbuzz]

Re: NBA Live 14 Gameplay Trailer (PS4/Xbox One)

Huh!? So I'll buy a Kia, not because I like Kias but because of the competition it creates with Mercedes

Really?

True. I've made my position on this pretty clear. If you want to support competition, don't buy ANY of EA Sports products! Don't buy 2K if you want to be fair. But you sure as hell shouldn't buy something from a company that has killed competition across the board and would LOVE to kill competition in the basketball genre as well.

[GisherJohn24]

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Looks exactly like Live 10. Look exactly like a game on the PS3 and 360 as well. After 3 years I just expected way more then this. I will pick it up once it drops to $25 to $30, don't look like it is worth $60. Just way too many other non sports games coming out that look better then this.

Something about the players just look off to me. Too much brightness, shine, reflection or something.

Some players obviously worse or better than others. Nash is iffy, but I think Irving's face looks very good. Not 2k worthy but commendable effort IMO

[yungflo]

Re: NBA Live 14 Gameplay Trailer (PS4/Xbox One)

Huh!? So I'll buy a Kia, not because I like Kias but because of the competition it creates with Mercedes

Really?

Exactly. I question the people who throw money at billion dollar corporations and their thought process. EA/Devs Still going to eat. Including the Maintenance crew. They will survive. They have for the 3 year drought. This is an apologist's thinking. Its soft. The best way to get the message across is don't buy the game.

I wonder if these people are the same people who said they would get a xbox one despite of draconian DRM and price tag, cause it supports competition. Microsoft didn't listen until their pockets were hurting.

I have no problem with a person buying it cause its diff, but buying it to support competition, I'm sorry, that's the most ******** thing I ever heard. I get a little annoyed seeing that type of post on message boards, on youtube, on websites. The nba isn't going to close the book on ea. They maintained the stance that they want an Open license.

Ea isn't going to close the book on the NBA cause its far too marketable and profitable to turn your back on. Especially a company that is made 5B just last year http://www.nba.com/2012/news/11/13/s...ba-revenue.ap/

So can the whole, I'm buying it so this series doesn't disappear bull****

[Sundown]

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Some players obviously worse or better than others. Nash is iffy, but I think Irving's face looks very good. Not 2k worthy but commendable effort IMO

Irving's head model and textures ARE very good. So are the six guys they head scanned. Except Live jacks it up with its sub par lighting and shaders.

[Sirs]

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How many posts do you haters have to post to let people know you hate the trailer, ea, live and the idiots who like it and their buzzwords?

Thiis way better than anything live has shown us since 10. No video was ever going to change your mindset. Maybe the great czars unbiased hands on review will. I hope so cause I owe you all a beat down online for the constant back n forth crap people post here.

[Sundown]

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i don't care if ppl didn't like the trailer. "looked better than I expected" because I wasn't expecting much. expected them to put out a game and improve in live 15. don't know what high expectations some of you had.

Well, some of us play this other game. It's quite good. And now it's next-gen version looks phenomenal.

We expected something like that. Kind of silly to, I guess.

Thiis way better than anything live has shown us since 10.

This is true. I admit the Live series now has a heartbeat.

No video was ever going to change your mindset.

No video made with Live 14, because the game LOOKS TERRIBLE on so many fronts.

A video showing a game that looks phenomenal, has few visual issues, realistic textures, near photorealistic lighting, no animation hitches, human-like movement and expressions, passable basketball AI, and made with the actual game engine-- a video like that would change some of our minds.

You know where we might see one of those?

[GisherJohn24]

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How many posts do you haters have to post to let people know you hate the trailer, ea, live and the idiots who like it and their buzzwords?

Thiis way better than anything live has shown us since 10. No video was ever going to change your mindset. Maybe the great czars unbiased hands on review will. I hope so cause I owe you all a beat down online for the constant back n forth crap people post here.

Agreed, if it was a perfect game they would still troll this thread

[Sundown]

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Agreed, if it was a perfect game they would still troll this thread

You don't know that. And you won't until Live actually looks good. But since it doesn't look like a perfect game, or even a very good game, your speculation is kind of moot.

Live looks like a mediocre-to-bad looking game with a few good elements. That's what the video shows and until proven wrong, we'll believe what we see. We'll just continue to evaluate using our eyes and our heads-- without having to make excuses for obvious flaws we see and downplaying things that look good just because it's not in a product by our favorite brand. What a crazy concept.

I think they have what's most common in writers. The first draft of a book a writer does is absolutely terrible 100% of the time. Why? Because we didn't write what we think we wrote and we didn't explain what we thought they explained, hence plotholes everywhere. Why is that? Because we are too close to the writing (or product in this case). We need to take a stepback, wait for a month or two, then look at it again or send it out for feedback/get it cleaned up by a professional editor because that's what editors are for.

This is also why Christian Bale's batman voice is dumb, and actually gets dumber with each movie.

[Sundown]

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Yes, you can do some moves while moving. But there's a cost. I'll just say that.

Wait, really? Can you elaborate? What's the point if dribble moves don't work right or has issues when you're moving? That's the whole point of dribble moves in real ball.

Do you go into that ridiculous Rose stutter step animation? It's kind of hilarious he took 10 little robotic steps when he could have just taken 3 normal ones.

Really? They're already on a redesign of the dribbling system (2K11) and it's already capable of everything you see touted in Bouncetek.

You've played both. Does Bouncetek really add little to what you can already do with the Pro-stick? It seems to have better footplanting at least-- well, when you're not being defended close and dribbling in place. There are also times it looks kind of bad with animations all sped up-- which makes me ask, WHY DOES EA constantly speed up their animations in inappropriate and weird looking ways? Madden has this problem even for a basic thing like the throw animation. If you need a faster animation, go and capture one. Or else you lose the nuances of inertia and momentum.

EA needs to stop thinking that their games are "just games" and that no one cares about obvious, glitchy looking visual hacks. They need to think about what looks good and what just looks stupid, which another company seems to pay a lot of attention to.

[Sirs]

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Well, some of us play this other game. It's quite good. And now it's next-gen version looks phenomenal.

We expected something like that. Kind of silly to, I guess.


This is true. I admit the Live series now has a heartbeat.


No video made with Live 14, because the game LOOKS TERRIBLE on so many fronts.

A video showing a game that looks phenomenal, has few visual issues, realistic textures, near photorealistic lighting, no animation hitches, human-like movement and expressions, passable basketball AI, and made with the actual game engine-- a video like that would change some of our minds.

You know where we might see one of those?

Key word being looks. If you asked me which videos look better between live 10 and 2k10-14 I'd say 2k looks better. But to me live plays better and still does.

[mlp111]

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Key word being looks. If you asked me which videos look better between live 10 and 2k10-14 I'd say 2k looks better. But to me live plays better and still does.

live 10 may have played better than 2k10.... but not 2k11 or 2k14... live 10 has some major issues as well..EA seems to acknowledge those issues evrytime they make a newer game.. just look at some of their elite11 videos, live 14 videos

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Key word being looks. If you asked me which videos look better between live 10 and 2k10-14 I'd say 2k looks better. But to me live plays better and still does.

The head producer would be Mike Wang who happens to be at 2k

As soon as he left EA, NBA Live died

[Sirs]

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Well props to the other people that worked on live 10 because whatever magic wang contributed I don't feel has correlated as well on 2k. I think the constant 1 year plan of control changes proves that. And since live 10 has major issues well then wang had a part in that too.

[royounggoku]

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Agreed, if it was a perfect game they would still troll this thread

I used to play Live all the time when I was a kid, I even got a little hype when I heard about it coming back and told my friends to look out for it, showing them those face scans of Kyrie Irving. So I'm completely unbiased in terms of Live 14. But I can't possibly show my friends that Live 14 trailer. They'd laugh their asses off at me, and rightfully so. It looks like a current gen game.