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LT - Get out of my head!!!!!!!! LOL.
This post could not be more correct. This is EXACTLY what I meant. If you've ever watched "Madden" players play in a competitive environment, they spend HOURS mastering certain plays that will ALWAYS generate pressure, for example. Or a play that ALWAYS works. If the slightest thing goes wrong, they have a fit. They don't want to see dropped passes, or bad snaps, or players tripping, or any of the realistic elements. They want everything to work all of the time.
There is a guy in one of the leagues I play in who is a madden master. He doesn't even like football in real life and doesn't even follow the NFL. He never played football or studied the game, but he likes playing Madden and right now he's undefeated in a very, very competitive and good league. That tells you all you need to know right there.
When I made the switch to online leagues in 2004, a lot of the guys who came over to 2k5 were all Madden players. They struggled big time in the beginning and were frustrated. You couldn't run around like a chicken with your head cut off with the QB. You couldn't drop back 30 yards and throw perfect bombs to your receiver. You couldn't swerve in and out of the defense, you actually had to follow your blocks and wait for the play to develop. Drives would stall on pass interference penalties or illegal man downfield. You get my point here?
The mentality is different. That was the point I was trying to convey which LT relayed perfectly.
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Lol. I wish I could get into the heads of Tiburon employees, but I digress.
This is something that I do see with Madden, that I don't see as much, and I don't think exists on the same scale, as it does in NFL 2K. I think that there are many people that aren't big Football fans, or who don't watch much Football, if any, that like Madden. They are just competitive people, and see that Madden is a game with tourney cred, and that's enough for them.
It is a testament to what Tiburon has created, if you take a step back and think about it. It is a major negative though if you're a fan of sim Football.
The second part I bolded isn't totally fair though. While I do believe (I don't have any raw data to back it up) that there is a larger contingent of the Madden fan base that may not be all that into Football, than say 2K's, I don't think that saying that someone who has no Football knowledge being great at Madden, necessarily means that Madden is flawed.
I'm sure most people that are good at ARMA have never actually been in a war. I know I've never been, yet I'm very good at every shooter I've ever played. It's mostly reflexes, dexterity, learning maps, and learning player tendencies or strategies on a given map. I don't care what shooter you are talking about, if you have those areas down, you will be good at it. In fact you could be great at it if you only had the first two in spades. I'm also equally sure that there are plenty of people who could be great at NFL 2K with little knowledge of the NFL. As great as those games were, and as much as they were more realistic than Madden, they are still games, and with the right amount of genes and practice time, you could still make real world football knowledge irrelevant. Just like any other game.
I agree with the rest though.