Madden NFL 25 Next-Gen War in the Trenches Q&A with Clint Oldenburg

[TheBleedingRed21]

Re: Madden NFL 25 Next-Gen War in the Trenches Q&A with Clint Oldenburg

It was definitely next gen on the MNF videos.

Does it even matter? Obviously those were skeptical to begin with and were taken down.

I think the trailer we saw looked a hell of a lot better and until we see actual gameplay, we have to stop basing stuff off those videos, which were super poor quality to begin with.

[spottieottiedop]

I'm can say I'm excited about the line play and if the implementation is good to great then Madden 15 is looking really good.

[poster]

Re: Madden NFL 25 Next-Gen War in the Trenches Q&A with Clint Oldenburg

He replied during the q&a

Has blitzing been improved? Is cover 2 a usable scheme now with better pass rush?

Yes, you will feel more heat with blitzes, which also improved all coverages.

Huh? What does feeling the heat with blitzes and having that improve coverage have to do with what I asked?

Can a 4-3, 4 man rush get pressure if they are a dominant group playing against lesser O-Line opponents. There is no blitzing involved, so he did not answer the question, or did it in the vague EA way that he has been coached up on.

The original question someone asked about the Cover-2 was asked because it is predicated on the front four getting pressure w/o blitzing (if you have the talent up front).

look here, in current gen it was suction blocking, i havent seen that in any video, maybe i missed it but it didnt stand out. look at the seahawks/tittans vid. the RE and LT, the end engages with the LT seemlessly. more importantly the ends are now programmed to rush upfield and around the tackles. they wont always get around like in that vid, but maybe thats do to a superior LT against an inferior DE, the LT has better footwork. but on the other side its the opposite, the LDE is already parallel with wilson just as he finishes his dropback and is making his way behind wilson. besides thats 1 animation/type of rush in the DE's arsenal, we just saw 1 of them displayed. they aint gonna show the qb getting sacked when theyre showing off the pocket mechanic, cmon now.

i remember u once saying thats what we needed to see, for the DE's to launch upfield quickly and they are, because they are now programmed to. so that means it will be like that for the user as well, why wouldnt it be?

will D-lineman "win" more 1-1 battles against lesser rated O-linemen? Or will it be 50/50

Pass rush has been improved and ratings will have a heavy impact on 1v1 battles up front.

Will the blind side pass rusher (RDE) be able to consistently get pressure instead of how it is now where the LDE gets the most?

Yes, that's now balanced and ratings will determine pressure.
that wasnt an issue for the cpu, it was an issue for the user.

one thing i noticed though, in the panthers and chiefs videos, the defense was running zone blitz, the pass rush looked pretty bad. looked like current gen, thats what i dont like so far.

im with you btw on being skeptical, everyone should be, but they truly never worked so much on the trenches and detailed and spoke about it as much as they are now, u really think they trollin? that it will be the same as current gen?

edit: about those MNF vids, i read that wasnt next gen, that it was something else, that espn said it was next gen but someone from EA said it wasnt.

If you have played the game during the past couple of years (perhaps an issue this whole gen), the non controlled d-lineman on your team are useless, no matter how good they are. It's been complained about for a long time. This is why he and many others are skeptical about it working for the team you control.

I can take any d lineman and dominate with the stick moves. If I control the LB or S, that same d-lineman just gets patty-caked all day long and is useless. No pressure at all. Clint knows this occurs. We'll see if he was able to fix it, or if they just don't care. No damn excuse at all for this to be in a new gen of systems, let alone any gen of systems.

[TheBuddyHobbs]

Re: Madden NFL 25 Next-Gen War in the Trenches Q&A with Clint Oldenburg

Poster, it is an EA way to say we did not improve upon or touch that. Maybe next game, maybe not. We can only hope.

[Captain Obvious]

Re: Madden NFL 25 Next-Gen War in the Trenches Q&A with Clint Oldenburg

It was definitely next gen on the MNF videos.

well i did see a headset in that chargers vid on the coach, thats not in current gen true. but IMO it looks nothing like the official gameplay trailer that was released last friday.



looks nothing like those mnf videos. i read the description on youtube, but that was by espn. i even remember seeing EA retweeting it, but i think soem guy named phil from EA saying it wasnt next gen.

[TheBuddyHobbs]

Re: Madden NFL 25 Next-Gen War in the Trenches Q&A with Clint Oldenburg

well i did see a headset in that chargers vid on the coach, thats not in current gen true. but IMO it looks nothing like the official gameplay trailer that was released last friday.



looks nothing like those mnf videos. i read the description on youtube, but that was by espn. i even remember seeing EA retweeting it, but i think soem guy named phil from EA saying it wasnt next gen.

The ESPN videos were in a dome and at night. The lightning will always be better during the day. Graphics always look better in the daylight.

[Captain Obvious]

Re: Madden NFL 25 Next-Gen War in the Trenches Q&A with Clint Oldenburg

Can a 4-3, 4 man rush get pressure if they are a dominant group playing against lesser O-Line opponents. There is no blitzing involved, so he did not answer the question, or did it in the vague EA way that he has been coached up on.
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lol you serious? seems like you completely ignored him... go read the first page where this is from...

will D-lineman "win" more 1-1 battles against lesser rated O-linemen? Or will it be 50/50

Pass rush has been improved and ratings will have a heavy impact on 1v1 battles up front.

maybe this wasnt YOUR question but its what you're looking for.

does he really need to answer the cover 2 question? if you have a dominat line the cover 2 will be very effective, thats common sense if you are familiar with football.

Will the blind side pass rusher (RDE) be able to consistently get pressure instead of how it is now where the LDE gets the most?

Yes, that's now balanced and ratings will determine pressure.

Will the secondary actually be able to keep up with WR's and play man defense decently?

Coverage has been improved and enhanced pass rush will make the defensive secondary's job easier.


Has blitzing been improved? Is cover 2 a usable scheme now with better pass rush?

Yes, you will feel more heat with blitzes, which also improved all coverages.

this one yours? the 2nd part of his answer doesnt answer your cover 2, it was answered elsewhere indirectly.

[dat swag]

Re: Madden NFL 25 Next-Gen War in the Trenches Q&A with Clint Oldenburg

It was definitely next gen on the MNF videos.

IMO not the same game...and even if it was what has been confirmed as actual gameplay looks light years better thsn what ESPN claimed was NG. The eye test alone shows that those are two different games visually

[secondsolution]

Re: Madden NFL 25 Next-Gen War in the Trenches Q&A with Clint Oldenburg

IMO not the same game...and even if it was what has been confirmed as actual gameplay looks light years better thsn what ESPN claimed was NG. The eye test alone shows that those are two different games visually

Forgive me for my ignorance, but how is this possible? I believe EA confirmed that the most recent ESPN video was next-gen so how would the retail version look light years better? If it was an early build then I'm sure EA would have made it abundantly clear.

[SageInfinite]

Re: Madden NFL 25 Next-Gen War in the Trenches Q&A with Clint Oldenburg

IMO not the same game...and even if it was what has been confirmed as actual gameplay looks light years better thsn what ESPN claimed was NG. The eye test alone shows that those are two different games visually

In motion it looks like the same exact game to me. The EA videos showed us what they wanted us to see, the MNF videos showed us the game. Graphically the details are alot better in the EA videos which I expect, but it doesn't look like a totally different game to me.

[SageInfinite]

Re: Madden NFL 25 Next-Gen War in the Trenches Q&A with Clint Oldenburg

Does it even matter? Obviously those were skeptical to begin with and were taken down.

I think the trailer we saw looked a hell of a lot better and until we see actual gameplay, we have to stop basing stuff off those videos, which were super poor quality to begin with.

It does matter if people still think that it wasn't next gen footage when it was.

[SageInfinite]

Re: Madden NFL 25 Next-Gen War in the Trenches Q&A with Clint Oldenburg

well i did see a headset in that chargers vid on the coach, thats not in current gen true. but IMO it looks nothing like the official gameplay trailer that was released last friday.



looks nothing like those mnf videos. i read the description on youtube, but that was by espn. i even remember seeing EA retweeting it, but i think soem guy named phil from EA saying it wasnt next gen.

The headsets, the crowds, the sidelines, the double teams on pass blocking all clearly show the game was next gen. The graphic fidelity is way better on the EA trailer, but the way the game looks in motion is exactly the same imo.

[supremeteam_ceo]

Will zone blocking schemes be in the game?
Will we see different block animations for different situations?for example a back chop blocking while picking up a block in the backfield and offensive linemen chop blocking at the goal line and in short yardage situations...

[Sausage]

Re: Madden NFL 25 Next-Gen War in the Trenches Q&A with Clint Oldenburg

Just like in real football, it's all about the execution of the play; what is scary about Madden devs they never quite execute the whole play and score that big TD.

Instead we get a 3 and out, muffed punts, and turnover on downs. Though we tune in each every August because we think they're turning the corner and at any moment about to break the BIG ONE.

[dat swag]

Re: Madden NFL 25 Next-Gen War in the Trenches Q&A with Clint Oldenburg

Forgive me for my ignorance, but how is this possible? I believe EA confirmed that the most recent ESPN video was next-gen so how would the retail version look light years better? If it was an early build then I'm sure EA would have made it abundantly clear.

you would agree that there is an obvious visual difference wouldn't you?

Some college intern intern tosssing up a video for ESPN not knowing what the heck it was is likely what that can be attributed to...But just my unofficial personal opinion.

The only fact I have is my own eye test and there is no doubt that the ESPN video and what we saw this weekend are 2 very different visual depictions of Madden...Thats just me tho...I could be wrong...I was wrong one time before.

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