Madden NFL 25 Next Gen Video - War in the Trenches & Passing Pockets (QJB)

[Steven78]

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Well, I still saw blocking happening perpendicular to the QB. Which is just odd. If you can turn to the right and go straight for the QB, why would you stand there pushing your blocker? Why not actually try to disengage to get to him?

It seems like they're still following the same formula of Win/Loss/Super-Loss for line interaction. It's not going to get any better until they get rid of that plan.

Exactly. There seems to be no grey area in this aspect. You either win or lose, when in real life there is so much more to it. And we all know how EA overdoes everything they implement so you end up getting sick of it after a couple games. I have a feeling this is how the new blocking is going to work. After a few games, you will already have seen it all.

[Steven78]

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but with current gen they were doing the most they could with what they had to work with and wouldn't be able to really get those things right until next gen.

Why would anyone buy this excuse? I mean, ITS BEEN DONE ON CURRENT GEN!!!

You cant say "not possible on current gen" when it has actually been proven it can be done.

Then, you cant say "wait until next gen" and then when next gen comes out say how it's the first installation and things couldnt be implented because of that.

Seriously, enough of the excuses why you cannot do things.

[ghettogeeksta]

I see why they are not showing real-time 11-on-11 gameplay now, its because the only way people can tell the difference between current gen and next-gen is if they see it in slow motion. When you watch the game in real time, I doubt people will notice a difference between current and the next-gen version.

This is just more adding new paint to an old broken down engine. Let just face it people, if they don't build a new game-play/animation engine for Madden this game will never be a sim or even good football game. It's not going to take me a half of gen to realize this now. If EA renews the NFL license we will NEVER see a real/true NFL football game on the levels of NBA 2K, MLB The Show, and even Fifa, heck I wouldn't be surprised if NBA Live surpassed Madden.

[roadman]

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They are the one touting these things!!

They are the one saying how the game will be full of emotion, and full of unique fans, and this and that and this and that.

You dont get to tout things to your customers, not deliver, and then expect them to not call you out on it or not be angry about it.

This is 100% on them quit acting like the customers should be patient and wait for yet another "next year."

Can we be patient enough until the game drops and then give them our concerns. It's 10 days, not a year. When the game dissapoints and in certain areas, by all means, let them have it.

Also, I mentioned a few pages back, JP get's his info from well respected GCers. They tell him to listen to Rex, that the sim foundation is starting to be built and then the bits and pieces will fall into place after that.

Until another team or developer comes in, that sim game plan probably won't change. It doesn't matter if you kick, scream or holler or throw your monitor, this teams plan is in place and isn't changing.

It's discouraging from a NFL gamer's point of view that every so often the teams change and another one comes in.

Let's hope this team stays in one place or they will be tearing up a different business model and starting all over again.

[roadman]

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Anything on penalties and the challenge system ? When do they expect to work on that ?

Clint said he saw a few increased penalties with the new systems, but don't expect PI for another few years at least, based on the recent interviews.

[NDAlum]

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It looks just like CG to me. I just am not buying into the hype which really sucks.

[Gosens6]

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Clint said he saw a few increased penalties with the new systems, but don't expect PI for another few years at least, based on the recent interviews.

Now that is simply inexcusable. There is no reason or excuse that can be told to me as to why PI doesn't work.

We're on the most sophisticated gaming systems ever, and the PI system is still broken? Games on the PS2, Dreamcast, Sega Genesis days had PI working properly.

For a game 25 years in the making to not have proper penalties is not acceptable.

[slick589]

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Anyone see the Monday night game a few weeks back when Jared Allen sacked Eli manning while being blocked? He had a blocker between him and Eli and just grabbed Eli's jersey and held on. When will we see that kinda organic gameplay?

[CubFan23]

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aside from the d-line/o-line this is pretty much looking like a straight up port.

Of course it does! So is Black Flag and Battlefield 4. Look on youtube, they have current gen and next gen version comparisons of theses games and the graphics are almost the same with next gen having improved because of lighting etc. Why do people think that next gen versions of the games that are out now on PS3/xbox360 are going to be totally different?

[Gosens6]

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Of course it does! So is Black Flag and Battlefield 4. Look on youtube, they have current gen and next gen version comparisons of theses games and the graphics are almost the same with next gen having improved because of lighting etc. Why do people think that next gen versions of the games that are out now on PS3/xbox360 are going to be totally different?

See: NBA 2K14

2K is setting the bar for next gen sports games. Brand new gameplay engine and photo realistic graphics? THAT'S why we expect more from some of these games

[Nza]

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Madden's animations are simply horrid. They don't move naturally. They seem to be floating on the ground. When you do see double teams and other 3 or more player animations, it just looks awkward. It mostly seems passable at real time speed, but the closer you look, the worse it is.

Just look at the DB going for the ball on Brady's throw. He misses it, but that last glitch like burst of velocity that suddenly propels him in front of the WR is ghastly. It has been in Madden at least since the PS2 era.

Some of the OL/DL stuff looks OK, even pretty damn good, but I still can't shake the feeling the vast majority of it is just a series of canned animations. I was expecting more from NG, as it's clear that OL/DL calls for a more powerful and natural animation system than what Madden is going to offer.

[charter04]

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The more I read the comments the more I'm starting to come to a couple conclusions.

1. If you say you like Madden then people act like your an EA lover and must be getting something out of the deal. I like Madden 25. Do I wish it was better? Yes. I am not a game changer. I don't get anything. So just because someone defends it doesn't mean they are getting something out of the deal. I know for a fact these game changers don't get much out of this. Every one of them I have followed want to help.

2. Maybe we are just old. We all look back at PS2 gen Madden as the Golden years. Were those game really that much better or are we the ones who are different? Back when I played those games I wasn't on websites. I didn't know when they were coming out. I didn't care how "sim" the game was. I just had fun. I was in my early 20's. I have changed. I want everything to be "sim". I used to just get a rubber basketball from Wal-Mart and play ball. Now I want the official NBA ball. LOL. I think the kids in college love Madden as much as we did. I would have never played a game like OOTP. Now I really love it.

I want the game to be great. I really do. But, I just wonder how we expect a company to make everyone happy. I have fun playing Madden 25 and expect to keep having fun.

[jyoung]

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Of course it does! So is Black Flag and Battlefield 4. Look on youtube, they have current gen and next gen version comparisons of theses games and the graphics are almost the same with next gen having improved because of lighting etc. Why do people think that next gen versions of the games that are out now on PS3/xbox360 are going to be totally different?

I agree that the next gen Assassin's Creed appears to be barely an upgrade at all.

But Battlefield 4 is a huge upgrade on next-gen consoles.

• 3 map points current gen vs. 5 map points next gen
• 24 players current gen vs. 64 players next gen
• 30 frames per second current gen vs. 60 frames per second next gen

Those are all massive, game-changing improvements.

[charter04]

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See: NBA 2K14

2K is setting the bar for next gen sports games. Brand new gameplay engine and photo realistic graphics? THAT'S why we expect more from some of these games

I'm as exciting for 2K14 on next gen as anyone but, they haven't shown us any more gameplay footage than Madden. Actually Madden has probably shown more. They won't admit that it was but, still. My point is I want to see what 2k looks like from the normal, playing the game, view before I have too much of a cow and start crowning it the next gen champ just yet.

[Gosens6]

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I'm as exciting for 2K14 on next gen as anyone but, they haven't shown us any more gameplay footage than Madden. Actually Madden has probably shown more. They won't admit that it was but, still. My point is I want to see what 2k looks like from the normal, playing the game, view before I have too much of a cow and start crowning it the next gen champ just yet.

There is a video available from the broadcast/gameplay perspective. 2 Minutes of it in fact..

You point me to a video where EA has shown Madden gameplay from the angle we'll be playing at. 2K has, EA hasn't