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  • m1ke_nyc
    10
    • Oct 2009
    • 3243

    #151
    Re: Madden 25 Next Gen PS4 Gameplay War In the Trenches

    Originally posted by roadman
    Clint said he saw a few increased penalties with the new systems, but don't expect PI for another few years at least, based on the recent interviews.
    Not good at all. You cant build sim gameplay if you don't have the rules of the sport in place. Hopefully these guys get these things high on the to do list.
    It’s easier to do the right thing, than to explain why you didn’t.

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    • dghustla
      Pro
      • Apr 2009
      • 721

      #152
      Re: Madden 25 Next Gen PS4 Gameplay War In the Trenches

      Originally posted by kehlis
      I know it's what you were going for but this is unecessary and so far from the truth.

      The old 2k/madden wars may linger but have pretty much dissipated. People just want to play football which is why you couldn't be more wrong.

      People here are passionate because they want Madden in the WORST way to succeed.

      I remember in college I had Madden 05 on constantly. In between classes I was playing, listening to Bruno, checking depth charts, etc. It was one of the most immersed games I have ever played.

      I never played 2k so spare me the trolling nonsense that people don't want it to succeed.


      I want to get back to fully being immersed in the game which I haven't been for a while.
      So when I make that board generalization I'm a troll? Yet I just read 8 pages of anti madden generalizations as well as generalizations about ppl who actually like the video. Someone comments that a poster is paid by ea to defend madden on the forums yet my statement is trolling?

      U may want madden to succeed. As I'm sure some of board might. I'm not dismissing anyone's concerns. Many ppl on here catch stuff i would never see like a coach facing the wrong way on a TD run. I want to game to be great instead of just good which I'm sure is a common goal for others as well. I was simply reaching out to JP to disengage from the same arguments with the same posters across multiple threads. Next time I will send a PM not to ruffle jimmies.

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      • nuke_21
        Banned
        • Dec 2012
        • 130

        #153
        What happened to signature throwing styles? Has EA ever watched american football? Can we get U S A developers who care about sports, not just foreign computer geeks?

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        • Gosens6
          All Star
          • Oct 2007
          • 6102

          #154
          Re: Madden 25 Next Gen PS4 Gameplay War In the Trenches

          Originally posted by nuke_21
          What happened to signature throwing styles? Has EA ever watched american football? Can we get U S A developers who care about sports, not just foreign computer geeks?
          Cause, 'Merica right?

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          • nuke_21
            Banned
            • Dec 2012
            • 130

            #155
            Originally posted by Gosens6
            Cause, 'Merica right?
            I don't get it

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            • Gosens6
              All Star
              • Oct 2007
              • 6102

              #156
              Re: Madden 25 Next Gen PS4 Gameplay War In the Trenches

              Originally posted by nuke_21
              I don't get it
              And I didn't really get your subtle racism against "Foreign computer geeks"

              When in fact, I don't think any foreign guys work on this game. (Could be wrong, someone who knows can certainly correct me)

              So maybe the USA guys can just learn to make a better product ya know, instead of being labeled as foreign geeks..

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              • charter04
                Tecmo Super Bowl = GOAT
                • May 2010
                • 5740

                #157
                Re: Madden 25 Next Gen PS4 Gameplay War In the Trenches

                Originally posted by Gosens6
                There is a video available from the broadcast/gameplay perspective. 2 Minutes of it in fact..

                You point me to a video where EA has shown Madden gameplay from the angle we'll be playing at. 2K has, EA hasn't
                The Monday night football sims are. They just won't admit it. My point is 2K hasn't shown much. I think its going to be great but, they are mostly showing closeup, slow mo trailers just like the other sports games. Other next gen games have shown 20 or 30 minutes of actually game play.
                www.twitch.tv/charter04

                https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPW...59SqVtXXFQVknw

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                • Afrikan
                  Banned
                  • Apr 2004
                  • 1462

                  #158
                  Re: Madden 25 Next Gen PS4 Gameplay War In the Trenches

                  Originally posted by slick589
                  Anyone see the Monday night game a few weeks back when Jared Allen sacked Eli manning while being blocked? He had a blocker between him and Eli and just grabbed Eli's jersey and held on. When will we see that kinda organic gameplay?
                  THE COWBOY Did it almost 2 years ago...and we haven't had it in the game.



                  but we should be careful what we ask for.... they might spam that animation in our faces..like the David Tyree SuperBowl catch.

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                  • KingV2k3
                    Senior Circuit
                    • May 2003
                    • 5881

                    #159
                    Re: Madden 25 Next Gen PS4 Gameplay War In the Trenches

                    Originally posted by charter04
                    2. Maybe we are just old. We all look back at PS2 gen Madden as the Golden years. Were those game really that much better or are we the ones who are different?
                    I find a way (which has become exponentially more difficult) EVERY year to beat the most "sim" experience on and off field out of EA's Pro Football title and enjoy (and play it to death) it EVERY year...

                    That being said:

                    The PS2 years are RELATIVELY the "Golden Years" simply because MORE THINGS STILL WORKED!!!

                    Basic stuff like Formation Subs / Auto Subs / Coach Philosophy Sliders / Accurate Sim Engine (and other assorted aspects of customization inside and outside Franchise / CCM) have ALL fallen by the wayside, presumably to waste the potential of a bigger, more powerful console on graphics and enticing the casual / head to head / online player...

                    I'd consider M25 to be the "GOAT" of the PS3 era, IF things that worked perfectly in earlier iterations still were in the game and still worked...

                    We still seem to "lose" more working features EVERY release cycle, which is frustrating / sad...

                    So, yeah unfortunately, the mid series PS2 games were the Golden Years, because all the above features were in the game AND actually worked "as advertised"...

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                    • Gosens6
                      All Star
                      • Oct 2007
                      • 6102

                      #160
                      Re: Madden 25 Next Gen PS4 Gameplay War In the Trenches

                      Originally posted by charter04
                      The Monday night football sims are. They just won't admit it. My point is 2K hasn't shown much. I think its going to be great but, they are mostly showing closeup, slow mo trailers just like the other sports games. Other next gen games have shown 20 or 30 minutes of actually game play.
                      They still showed 5V5 gameplay from the broadcast view that people play on. Madden hasn't shown any offense Vs. defense from the view guys play the game on.

                      Other next gen games that are not sports games have showed 20 to 30 minutes. The only point i'm trying to make is, 2K has show actual gameplay, from the view that we all play the game on. Even if it was only 2 minutes, it's 2 minutes more than what Madden has showed

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                      • dghustla
                        Pro
                        • Apr 2009
                        • 721

                        #161
                        Re: Madden 25 Next Gen PS4 Gameplay War In the Trenches

                        Originally posted by charter04
                        The more I read the comments the more I'm starting to come to a couple conclusions.

                        1. If you say you like Madden then people act like your an EA lover and must be getting something out of the deal. I like Madden 25. Do I wish it was better? Yes. I am not a game changer. I don't get anything. So just because someone defends it doesn't mean they are getting something out of the deal. I know for a fact these game changers don't get much out of this. Every one of them I have followed want to help.

                        2. Maybe we are just old. We all look back at PS2 gen Madden as the Golden years. Were those game really that much better or are we the ones who are different? Back when I played those games I wasn't on websites. I didn't know when they were coming out. I didn't care how "sim" the game was. I just had fun. I was in my early 20's. I have changed. I want everything to be "sim". I used to just get a rubber basketball from Wal-Mart and play ball. Now I want the official NBA ball. LOL. I think the kids in college love Madden as much as we did. I would have never played a game like OOTP. Now I really love it.

                        I want the game to be great. I really do. But, I just wonder how we expect a company to make everyone happy. I have fun playing Madden 25 and expect to keep having fun.
                        U might be on to something. There was no such thing as legacy issues back then.

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                        • Gators1984
                          Banned
                          • Oct 2013
                          • 40

                          #162
                          If you watch one of the D tackles on the first blocking example he's being double teamed, he has a clear path to Brady, but instead of breaking off tr block he stays on it never trying to get to the QB. He literally just focused on battling the double team while ignoring the path to the QB altogether. Poor.

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                          • nuke_21
                            Banned
                            • Dec 2012
                            • 130

                            #163
                            Just sick of EA not being held to a higher standard. No reason they should be only NFL option..

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                            • charter04
                              Tecmo Super Bowl = GOAT
                              • May 2010
                              • 5740

                              #164
                              Re: Madden 25 Next Gen PS4 Gameplay War In the Trenches

                              Originally posted by KingV2k3
                              I find a way (which has become exponentially more difficult) EVERY year to beat the most "sim" experience on and off field out of EA's Pro Football title and enjoy (and play it to death) it EVERY year...

                              That being said:

                              The PS2 years are RELATIVELY the "Golden Years" simply because MORE THINGS STILL WORKED!!!

                              Basic stuff like Formation Subs / Auto Subs / Coach Philosophy Sliders / Accurate Sim Engine (and other assorted aspects of customization inside and outside Franchise / CCM) have ALL fallen by the wayside, presumably to waste the potential of a bigger, more powerful console on graphics and enticing the casual / head to head / online player...

                              I'd consider M25 to be the "GOAT" of the PS3 era, IF things that worked perfectly in earlier iterations still were in the game and still worked...

                              We still seem to "lose" more working features EVERY release cycle, which is frustrating / sad...

                              So, yeah unfortunately, the mid series PS2 games were the Golden Years, because all the above features were in the game AND actually worked "as advertised"...
                              I agree and feel the same way. I don't think all those things worked great though. I remember many things frustrating me when I had Madden 06 for PS2. By then I was starting to want a more realistic game. I still didn't mess with sliders. I played default All-Pro. HA HA.

                              Next gen has been a disappointment for me until Madden 13. That is the first current gen Madden that made me feel like I did in the PS2 days. Madden 25 has been the same. Those are the only games the new team as worked on so far. That is what gives me hope.

                              I think you are spot on about online. PS2 Madden didn't have a great online focus. They didn't have online franchise. They didn't have MUT. I think this has hurt the current gen Madden. They have been spread too thin. I don't blame them. You have to make money first and for most. I feel since Madden 13 they are focused more on gameplay and I have seen the fruit of their labor even if some can't.

                              That is why I feel good about next gen Madden. They could have repeated what they did current Gen with 06 and only focused on visuals. Now they are going gameplay first visuals second. Sorry for the Book response. LOL
                              www.twitch.tv/charter04

                              https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPW...59SqVtXXFQVknw

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                              • charter04
                                Tecmo Super Bowl = GOAT
                                • May 2010
                                • 5740

                                #165
                                Re: Madden 25 Next Gen PS4 Gameplay War In the Trenches

                                Originally posted by Gosens6
                                They still showed 5V5 gameplay from the broadcast view that people play on. Madden hasn't shown any offense Vs. defense from the view guys play the game on.

                                Other next gen games that are not sports games have showed 20 to 30 minutes. The only point i'm trying to make is, 2K has show actual gameplay, from the view that we all play the game on. Even if it was only 2 minutes, it's 2 minutes more than what Madden has showed
                                I see what your saying. Were those 4 war in the trenches video's with Webber talking not from the gameplay camera? I know that wasn't 2 minutes but, it seemed like it was.
                                www.twitch.tv/charter04

                                https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPW...59SqVtXXFQVknw

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