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  • radatdude2
    Rookie
    • Feb 2008
    • 390

    #181
    Re: Madden 25 Next Gen PS4 Gameplay War In the Trenches

    Originally posted by jpdavis82
    Because that's not how video game development works. Why is there a frostbite engine 1, 2, 3? Why does FIFA have great physics now? Because they started putting them in the game a few years ago, they were laughable, but they stuck with it and have built off of them to get them where they are today. You don't implement new features at 100%, you implement them, then build off of them and perfect them until you get them working near 100% quality.
    You do realize this has been EA's plan for some time now with madden not for the Xbox1/ ps4? So excuse people for being just a little skeptical especially with this current development team who have touted these new features for next-gen which don't look anything like what we've seen from the e3 videos and features which have only been half way implemented. I agree it's not like the 360/ ps3 launch but it's not much better which should be expected that was 7 years ago so over time they have found new ways to deceive people.


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    • charter04
      Tecmo Super Bowl = GOAT
      • May 2010
      • 5740

      #182
      Re: Madden 25 Next Gen PS4 Gameplay War In the Trenches

      Originally posted by TheBuddyHobbs
      I'm sorry, but I'm not going to take what someone says that has an in with EA seriously. They have to be careful with what they say. They aren't going to be completely honest, why? Because they want to remain a gamechanger.
      Your just wrong. That's not how the program works. Their are game changers that still very critical of EA on YouTube and they are still in the program.
      www.twitch.tv/charter04

      https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPW...59SqVtXXFQVknw

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      • TheBuddyHobbs
        Banned
        • Apr 2013
        • 2312

        #183
        Re: Madden 25 Next Gen PS4 Gameplay War In the Trenches

        Originally posted by charter04
        Your just wrong. That's not how the program works. Their are game changers that still very critical of EA on YouTube and they are still in the program.
        I have been watching some of them for a long time before they were game changers. If you are saying they are as critical on them as they used to be then I respectfully have to say "you're wrong..." Comes down to agree to disagree. Plus some of the game changers don't play a simulation style football. Not going to name names. But for the people that watch their videos and know who they are will know what I'm talking about.
        Last edited by TheBuddyHobbs; 11-01-2013, 07:49 PM.

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        • Lilgoosy
          Rookie
          • Aug 2013
          • 40

          #184
          1:26 the crowd is astonishing

          1:32 Geno looks incredibly good

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          • roadman
            *ll St*r
            • Aug 2003
            • 26339

            #185
            Re: Madden 25 Next Gen PS4 Gameplay War In the Trenches

            Originally posted by TheBuddyHobbs
            I have been watching some of them for a long time before they were game changers. If you are saying they are as critical on them as they used to be then I respectfully have to say you're wrong. Comes down to agree to disagree.
            So, you don't think the critical ones are in their ear about simulation NFL football? They can make strong suggestions, but they don't make the decisions.

            Didn't we discuss this before?

            There are some GCers that are beneficial to have the developers ear.

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            • Steven78
              Banned
              • Apr 2013
              • 7240

              #186
              Re: Madden 25 Next Gen PS4 Gameplay War In the Trenches

              I have nothing against the gamechangers, but in the past they have come across as salesman for EA more times than not.

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              • TheBuddyHobbs
                Banned
                • Apr 2013
                • 2312

                #187
                Re: Madden 25 Next Gen PS4 Gameplay War In the Trenches

                Originally posted by roadman
                So, you don't think the critical ones are in their ear about simulation NFL football? They can make strong suggestions, but they don't make the decisions.

                Didn't we discuss this before?

                There are some GCers that are beneficial to have the developers ear.
                Did I say they make the decisions? I'm positive I didn't. I said they aren't going to be as critical as they used to be. Which I have been watching some of them way before they were game changers and they are not as critical as they used to be. Especially on social media such as Twitter. You don't think they are given filters they have to abide by? I would think so. Please don't put words in my mouth by saying that I said they make decisions. All I said was they are going be more censored than they used to be. They don't want to upset anyone at EA... I mean look at Rex in the interview saying they would stop interacting if we kept bringing up certain things. The social media manager on here said the same thing that they would just stop interacting with the community. This is when people weren't just bashing, but bring up valid points. EA don't take criticism very well.
                Last edited by TheBuddyHobbs; 11-01-2013, 07:56 PM.

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                • charter04
                  Tecmo Super Bowl = GOAT
                  • May 2010
                  • 5740

                  #188
                  Re: Madden 25 Next Gen PS4 Gameplay War In the Trenches

                  Originally posted by TheBuddyHobbs
                  I have been watching some of them for a long time before they were game changers. If you are saying they are as critical on them as they used to be then I respectfully have to say you're wrong. Comes down to agree to disagree. Plus some of the game changers don't play a simulation style football. Not going to name names. But for the people they watch their videos and know who they are will know what I'm talking about.
                  I'm pretty sure Ryan Moody is a GC. He seems exactly the same. The thing is the game has improved. Are they just not supposed to admit that? What happens is when you meet the real people who work on the game it gives you a better understanding of the process and you are less rude in your criticism.

                  Again just because some of us aren't too closed minded to see the improvement in Madden doesn't make us fanboys or sell outs. Why keep nitpicking and complaining if you don't believe it can get better? If it gets better shouldn't you admit it?
                  www.twitch.tv/charter04

                  https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPW...59SqVtXXFQVknw

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                  • charter04
                    Tecmo Super Bowl = GOAT
                    • May 2010
                    • 5740

                    #189
                    Re: Madden 25 Next Gen PS4 Gameplay War In the Trenches

                    Originally posted by Steven78
                    I have nothing against the gamechangers, but in the past they have come across as salesman for EA more times than not.
                    So? That doesn't mean they have to be. EA doesn't force you to be. That's up to the individual.
                    www.twitch.tv/charter04

                    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPW...59SqVtXXFQVknw

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                    • Steven78
                      Banned
                      • Apr 2013
                      • 7240

                      #190
                      Re: Madden 25 Next Gen PS4 Gameplay War In the Trenches

                      Originally posted by charter04
                      I'm pretty sure Ryan Moody is a GC. He seems exactly the same. The thing is the game has improved. Are they just not supposed to admit that? What happens is when you meet the real people who work on the game it gives you a better understanding of the process and you are less rude in your criticism.

                      Again just because some of us aren't too closed minded to see the improvement in Madden doesn't make us fanboys or sell outs. Why keep nitpicking and complaining if you don't believe it can get better? If it gets better shouldn't you admit it?

                      Because Madden is the only NFL game in town, you compare it to other sports games. And when you put Madden next to NBA 2K and The Show it pales in comparison.

                      Has Madden improved the last few years? Without a doubt. But you dont get props from me for meeting the lowest of expectations when other games have set the bar so high.
                      Last edited by Steven78; 11-01-2013, 08:00 PM.

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                      • TheBuddyHobbs
                        Banned
                        • Apr 2013
                        • 2312

                        #191
                        Re: Madden 25 Next Gen PS4 Gameplay War In the Trenches

                        Originally posted by charter04
                        I'm pretty sure Ryan Moody is a GC. He seems exactly the same. The thing is the game has improved. Are they just not supposed to admit that? What happens is when you meet the real people who work on the game it gives you a better understanding of the process and you are less rude in your criticism.

                        Again just because some of us aren't too closed minded to see the improvement in Madden doesn't make us fanboys or sell outs. Why keep nitpicking and complaining if you don't believe it can get better? If it gets better shouldn't you admit it?
                        That is one game changer and like I said I am not naming names.

                        But it hasn't gotten better at all in mine and a lot of sim gamers eyes. We still have such a long way to go. I haven't enjoyed Madden since Madden 10 and that game wasn't ground breaking either. Madden has so many important issues unresolved. It's not nit picking when we still have a lot of basic stuff looking bad.

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                        • roadman
                          *ll St*r
                          • Aug 2003
                          • 26339

                          #192
                          Re: Madden 25 Next Gen PS4 Gameplay War In the Trenches

                          Originally posted by TheBuddyHobbs
                          Did I say they make the decisions? I'm positive I didn't. I said they aren't going to be as critical as they used to be. Which I have been watching some of them way before they were game changers and they are not as critical as they used to be. Especially on social media such as Twitter. You don't think they are given filters they have to abide by? I would think so. Please don't put words in my mouth by saying that I said they make decisions. All I said was they are going be more censored than they used to be. They don't want to upset anyone at EA... I mean look at Rex in the interview saying they would stop interacting if we kept bringing up certain things. The social media manager on here said the same thing that they would just stop interacting with the community. This is when people weren't just bashing, but bring up valid points. EA don't take criticism very well.
                          You are correct, I stand corrected, but I just don't feel it's needed to generalize CGer's and lump all in one boat, there are some that are beneficial.

                          And Charter said it better than I did and I agree with him. Before, they were outsiders looking in, now they know the process better than we do. That speaks volumes.

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                          • Gosens6
                            All Star
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 6101

                            #193
                            Re: Madden 25 Next Gen PS4 Gameplay War In the Trenches

                            Originally posted by TheBuddyHobbs
                            That is one game changer and like I said I am not naming names.

                            But it hasn't gotten better at all in mine and a lot of sim gamers eyes. We still have such a long way to go. I haven't enjoyed Madden since Madden 10 and that game wasn't ground breaking either. Madden has so many important issues unresolved. It's not nit picking when we still have a lot of basic stuff looking bad.
                            Come on man, hasn't gotten better at all? I'm a sim gamer through and through, so is charter, so is a guy like roadman, kehlis, etc.

                            I'm sure all of us can agree from Madden 06 to now, the game has improved TREMENDOUSLY. Yeah, it's definitely not where it should be, but to say all sim guys share the same sentiment that the game hasn't improved is just wrong.

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                            • kehlis
                              Moderator
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 27738

                              #194
                              Re: Madden 25 Next Gen PS4 Gameplay War In the Trenches

                              Originally posted by charter04
                              I'm pretty sure Ryan Moody is a GC. He seems exactly the same. The thing is the game has improved. Are they just not supposed to admit that? What happens is when you meet the real people who work on the game it gives you a better understanding of the process and you are less rude in your criticism.

                              Again just because some of us aren't too closed minded to see the improvement in Madden doesn't make us fanboys or sell outs. Why keep nitpicking and complaining if you don't believe it can get better? If it gets better shouldn't you admit it?
                              While true, it's also true that people who have human interaction with one are less than likely to criticize that person publicly. Would you disagree?

                              If we want to have faith that some of the GC'ers are giving criticism behind closed doors you won't get an argument from me.

                              But short a few of them, based on before gc and after gc posts, I will have to say that it isn't true when it comes to public criticism.

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                              • roadman
                                *ll St*r
                                • Aug 2003
                                • 26339

                                #195
                                Re: Madden 25 Next Gen PS4 Gameplay War In the Trenches

                                Originally posted by Gosens6
                                Come on man, hasn't gotten better at all? I'm a sim gamer through and through, so is charter, so is a guy like roadman, kehlis, etc.

                                I'm sure all of us can agree from Madden 06 to now, the game has improved TREMENDOUSLY. Yeah, it's definitely not where it should be, but to say all sim guys share the same sentiment that the game hasn't improved is just wrong.
                                And we'll be the first to admit there is enough that needs fixing.

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