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  • Steven78
    Banned
    • Apr 2013
    • 7240

    #211
    Re: Madden 25 Next Gen PS4 Gameplay War In the Trenches

    Man we've had so many interviews throughout the years about 3 year plan, doing this, doing that, that I honestly don't know how anyone can have faith in their words at this point. I need to see it to believe it as they've burned that bridge.

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    • TheBuddyHobbs
      Banned
      • Apr 2013
      • 2312

      #212
      Re: Madden 25 Next Gen PS4 Gameplay War In the Trenches

      Originally posted by charter04
      Who's accepting it? Maybe some do. Not me. I just can't do anymore than some GC's are. So I'm going to make lemonade out of lemons. I'm not even saying Madden is terrible. I'm just saying that it is what it is. I guess I had different next gen expectations. I didn't expect the football game we've all wanted. I expect to see more move that way. Until I play the game myself it's speculation anyway.
      There are a few guys that are frequent posters you can probably pick out and tell they have accepted it. So much so that they defend it to death. Of course you have guys like me that criticize it to death. But that is because I want to see a great Madden game again. A great simulation Madden game that is. We all pay money for this game so we should be getting a better product for 60 dollars not just a slight upgrade.

      As far as the direction they are going it sounds good. Though like I mentioned in one of my last post. They sound good in theory, but never deliver as expected or promised. I want EA to shut me and everybody up. Trust me I know we all want that. Problem is it won't be for at least another year or two. At least I hope we are all shut up by then.

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      • roadman
        *ll St*r
        • Aug 2003
        • 26339

        #213
        Re: Madden 25 Next Gen PS4 Gameplay War In the Trenches

        Originally posted by Papa D
        That's great JD, im glad they did improve the Dline/Oline animation gameplay. Imo I thought it actually looked better, still looks stiff but better. BUT... the one concern about EA and their staff of Dev's is, are they just going to work on one problem area each year??? What I mean is, it looks like they focused all their man power and talent in just one of the many issues that Madden has lacked!! Like for instance, is that all they can handle in a 1 year cycle??

        That's horrible if you ask me.. So each year they will fix one thing that Madden lacks? Next up is what? CB/WR animations??? So by the time they get everything right there will be another Next Gen console coming out?? Its sad that this stuff should have been fixed a long time ago!! this is not new stuff, 2K has done this type of animations 10+ years ago?! How long is it going to take for them to finally catch up?? That's the real question.. People are getting tired of waiting for EA to finally catch up! When?
        We had that answer last week from Rex Dickson. The answer is absolutely not, that questioned was brought up and they aren't adding OL/DL this year and ripping it out next year. It will be worked on for 3-4 years.

        Physics has been worked on for the last 2 yrs and will continually be worked on.

        The days of putting in protak and taking it out the next year is gone, we were told.

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        • roadman
          *ll St*r
          • Aug 2003
          • 26339

          #214
          Re: Madden 25 Next Gen PS4 Gameplay War In the Trenches

          Originally posted by Steven78
          Man we've had so many interviews throughout the years about 3 year plan, doing this, doing that, that I honestly don't know how anyone can have faith in their words at this point. I need to see it to believe it as they've burned that bridge.
          Then we must painfully wait it out.

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          • rootofalleli
            Rookie
            • Feb 2010
            • 272

            #215
            Re: Madden 25 Next Gen PS4 Gameplay War In the Trenches

            Originally posted by KingV2k3
            The PS2 years are RELATIVELY the "Golden Years" simply because MORE THINGS STILL WORKED!!!

            Basic stuff like Formation Subs / Auto Subs / Coach Philosophy Sliders / Accurate Sim Engine (and other assorted aspects of customization inside and outside Franchise / CCM) have ALL fallen by the wayside, presumably to waste the potential of a bigger, more powerful console on graphics and enticing the casual / head to head / online player...
            Those who don't play franchise seem to have a hard time seeing how bad it's gotten for many of us who do. 10 years ago I loved managing my team. I figured that the next gen of consoles would give me more complexity and tougher decisions on top of the power to quickly simulate the AI's crafty maneuvers.

            Head to head play certainly has its flaws, but at least they affect all users more or less equally and don't prevent anyone from agreeing to play fairly. There still is a game there. Solo play is now "Compete with Yourself Mode" (32 team control) or "Beat Your Nephew at Checkers Mode" (vs CPU). That pretty much guts the experience.

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            • Feevision
              Rookie
              • Oct 2013
              • 43

              #216
              Why madden keeps looking like a cartoon the graphics dont look next gen it looks like a small upgrade from cg .. When is madden going to look photo realistic?.. Thank god ea dont have exclusive nba rights because if they did we would of never known how good a nba game can look on next gen like nba 2k14 ..madden only gets away with this garbage because theres no other football games out ...madden would of fell like nba live if they didnt buy the exclusive license .. Do u guys remember when nba live was the most popular basketball game and 2k was the underdog? I do!!! I was i live junkie but 2k took over by making a better game then live every year .. They took it nobody gave 2k anything ..i say that to say this ea needs to step they game up if they want to take it back .. ,

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              • 24
                Forever A Legend
                • Sep 2008
                • 2809

                #217
                Re: Madden 25 Next Gen PS4 Gameplay War In the Trenches

                It's like EA isn't even trying anymore. I'm not purchasing a port I did it once with Madden 06 and I vowed it would be the last time I ever did.


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                • dat swag
                  Banned
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 1040

                  #218
                  Re: Madden 25 Next Gen PS4 Gameplay War In the Trenches

                  Originally posted by charter04
                  Exactly. I know there are issues. I'm just not going to be one of these overly critical guys. It's cute to criticize some game changers but, they have actually made a difference. Constantly bashing every little problem in the game and always bringing up 2k football won't do anything but, drive EA away from these forums
                  I agree 1000% with you. Unfortunately there are more 2k fanboys here than actual football fans so they are stuck on just hating EA because we all know EA is the devil ((sarcasm).

                  I don't even think most of the fanboys care about or even like football that much...They are more concerned with finding every little imperfection and jumping on a bandwaggon to complain, criticize and outright disrespect the guys and gals who work on the game. There is a way to tactfully want change and still get your point across in a way that will be heard. But I think they actually want EA to feel some sort of pain or leave these forums...The fanboys would be fine with that because they really don't care about the game improving.

                  EA devs don't care what these fanboys say about 2K...I recall one of them even saying in response to the NFL agreement and chatter about 2K..."people need to Deal With it"...which is a very cordial way of saying **** You Fanboy. I don't blame them and honestly I've seen threads on the 2K forum locked when there is too much complaining...I don't agree with that and do not advocate that here but its quite interesting that you can complain for 300 pages here about Madden but let 5-6 people have a complaint about 2K and that thread is locked with the quickness. Then the person locking the thread will try and play it off like "you guys are too emotional"...when in reality he/she is the only person who seems to catch feelings...Things that make ya go hmmm.

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                  • charter04
                    Tecmo Super Bowl = GOAT
                    • May 2010
                    • 5740

                    #219
                    Re: Madden 25 Next Gen PS4 Gameplay War In the Trenches

                    Last thing and then I'm out. Lol. It's probably difficult to decide what do work on from year to year. So many on here prioritize so many things. Some what 100% sim gameplay with realistic penalties ext. (I'm in that group) some want photo realistic uniforms and graphics, some want an extremely deep franchise, some want perfect online, some MUT, some crowds and atmosphere. Some want it all lol. The list goes on and on. This is what I get when I read comments. We all have different opinions of what the perfect football game is and we want Madden make that game for all of us. Can anyone do that? Ha ha
                    www.twitch.tv/charter04

                    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPW...59SqVtXXFQVknw

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                    • TheBuddyHobbs
                      Banned
                      • Apr 2013
                      • 2312

                      #220
                      Re: Madden 25 Next Gen PS4 Gameplay War In the Trenches

                      Originally posted by dat swag
                      I agree 1000% with you. Unfortunately there are more 2k fanboys here than actual football fans so they are stuck on just hating EA because we all know EA is the devil ((sarcasm).

                      I don't even think most of the fanboys care about or even like football that much...They are more concerned with finding every little imperfection and jumping on a bandwaggon to complain, criticize and outright disrespect the guys and gals who work on the game. There is a way to tactfully want change and still get your point across in a way that will be heard. But I think they actually want EA to feel some sort of pain or leave these forums...The fanboys would be fine with that because they really don't care about the game improving.

                      EA devs don't care what these fanboys say about 2K...I recall one of them even saying in response to the NFL agreement and chatter about 2K..."people need to Deal With it"...which is a very cordial way of saying **** You Fanboy. I don't blame them and honestly I've seen threads on the 2K forum locked when there is too much complaining...I don't agree with that and do not advocate that here but its quite interesting that you can complain for 300 pages here about Madden but let 5-6 people have a complaint about 2K and that thread is locked with the quickness. Then the person locking the thread will try and play it off like "you guys are too emotional"...when in reality he/she is the only person who seems to catch feelings...Things that make ya go hmmm.
                      The irony in this post just bleeds so much.

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                      • charter04
                        Tecmo Super Bowl = GOAT
                        • May 2010
                        • 5740

                        #221
                        Re: Madden 25 Next Gen PS4 Gameplay War In the Trenches

                        Originally posted by Feevision
                        Why madden keeps looking like a cartoon the graphics dont look next gen it looks like a small upgrade from cg .. When is madden going to look photo realistic?.. Thank god ea dont have exclusive nba rights because if they did we would of never known how good a nba game can look on next gen like nba 2k14 ..madden only gets away with this garbage because theres no other football games out ...madden would of fell like nba live if they didnt buy the exclusive license .. Do u guys remember when nba live was the most popular basketball game and 2k was the underdog? I do!!! I was i live junkie but 2k took over by making a better game then live every year .. They took it nobody gave 2k anything ..i say that to say this ea needs to step they game up if they want to take it back .. ,
                        This is exactly what I'm talking about. Smh
                        www.twitch.tv/charter04

                        https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPW...59SqVtXXFQVknw

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                        • TheBuddyHobbs
                          Banned
                          • Apr 2013
                          • 2312

                          #222
                          Re: Madden 25 Next Gen PS4 Gameplay War In the Trenches

                          Originally posted by charter04
                          Last thing and then I'm out. Lol. It's probably difficult to decide what do work on from year to year. So many on here prioritize so many things. Some what 100% sim gameplay with realistic penalties ext. (I'm in that group) some want photo realistic uniforms and graphics, some want an extremely deep franchise, some want perfect online, some MUT, some crowds and atmosphere. Some want it all lol. The list goes on and on. This is what I get when I read comments. We all have different opinions of what the perfect football game is and we want Madden make that game for all of us. Can anyone do that? Ha ha
                          You're right we have a very long way to go. No game will ever please everybody. In fact there is not one thing in life that will please every single person in the world. Get your mind out of the gutter now... lol... But there was a company that did a pretty good job on the 360/PS3 sadly that was only for one game. That's over now though. Madden is making the promises we want to hear. For now? It doesn't look good. For later? To be determined.

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                          • kjcheezhead
                            MVP
                            • May 2009
                            • 3118

                            #223
                            Re: Madden 25 Next Gen PS4 Gameplay War In the Trenches

                            Originally posted by dat swag
                            I agree 1000% with you. Unfortunately there are more 2k fanboys here than actual football fans so they are stuck on just hating EA because we all know EA is the devil ((sarcasm).

                            I don't even think most of the fanboys care about or even like football that much...They are more concerned with finding every little imperfection and jumping on a bandwaggon to complain, criticize and outright disrespect the guys and gals who work on the game. There is a way to tactfully want change and still get your point across in a way that will be heard. But I think they actually want EA to feel some sort of pain or leave these forums...The fanboys would be fine with that because they really don't care about the game improving.

                            EA devs don't care what these fanboys say about 2K...I recall one of them even saying in response to the NFL agreement and chatter about 2K..."people need to Deal With it"...which is a very cordial way of saying **** You Fanboy. I don't blame them and honestly I've seen threads on the 2K forum locked when there is too much complaining...I don't agree with that and do not advocate that here but its quite interesting that you can complain for 300 pages here about Madden but let 5-6 people have a complaint about 2K and that thread is locked with the quickness. Then the person locking the thread will try and play it off like "you guys are too emotional"...when in reality he/she is the only person who seems to catch feelings...Things that make ya go hmmm.
                            A lot of guys tried that, I did in a post only ten back. But when EA says they won't add bad snaps, or get line penalties into the game because tourney guys won't like that and then post things like "people need to deal with that". They are not saying F# you fanboy, they are saying F# you football fan, play madden ball and like it.

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                            • charter04
                              Tecmo Super Bowl = GOAT
                              • May 2010
                              • 5740

                              #224
                              Re: Madden 25 Next Gen PS4 Gameplay War In the Trenches

                              Originally posted by 24
                              It's like EA isn't even trying anymore. I'm not purchasing a port I did it once with Madden 06 and I vowed it would be the last time I ever did.
                              You do remember Madden 06 for 360 don't you? There was nothing port about it. That was the biggest problem with it. It was a bare bones game that started from the ground up. It would have been much better had it been a port. Ha ha
                              www.twitch.tv/charter04

                              https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPW...59SqVtXXFQVknw

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                              • dat swag
                                Banned
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 1040

                                #225
                                Re: Madden 25 Next Gen PS4 Gameplay War In the Trenches

                                Originally posted by kjcheezhead
                                Over all, when you pause on an image of the pocket, it forms nicely. But in motion, the players are still doing weird twists, and shifts. Watch 62 in the back. What kind of footwork is this? There is a ballerina in that man just begging to get out. Edit: The gif is too fast, watch the video at 37 sec to see what I mean.

                                GIFSoup


                                Sorry man you did all that work and I'm sitting here trying to see what your seeing but maybe I' just blind...I see to lineman hand fighting like most NFL linemen do at the point of attack

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