Madden NFL 25 Next Gen Video - War in the Trenches & Passing Pockets (QJB)

[kehlis]

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I agree 1000% with you. Unfortunately there are more 2k fanboys here than actual football fans so they are stuck on just hating EA because we all know EA is the devil ((sarcasm).

Okay. I'm tired of this. You ignored my legitimate questions in the other thread.

Answer this question now please.

Who here is a 2k fanboy and what makes them that? What evidence do you have to prove that? Is is possible that people just want a good game of football or is that too much?

It's okay that you like the game. But making blanket statements like this is not going to fly here.

Please justify your accusations.

[kjcheezhead]

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Sorry man you did all that work and I'm sitting here trying to see what your seeing but maybe I' just blind...I see to lineman hand fighting like most NFL linemen do at the point of attack

Yeah number 62 in the background is the one who I wanted to focus on. The gif just runs too fast. Not a great example, you need to watch the vid at 37 sec to see what I mean.

[dat swag]

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A lot of guys tried that, I did in a post only ten back. But when EA says they won't add bad snaps, or get line penalties into the game because tourney guys won't like that and then post things like "people need to deal with that". They are not saying F# you fanboy, they are saying F# you football fan, play madden ball and like it.

Bro...if they put more penalties and bad snaps in the game...people will complain like no end...Plus anytime a sports videogame tries to implement these random sort of things it never works...I recall when Madden was riddled with PI calls to the point that all dudes would do is throw it up and get a PI...Now its almost the exact opposite...I never see them...occassionally in H2H...I just think its too difficult to implement a balance for when these things happen.

I mean how do they determine when a bad snap happens...Purely by numbers, NFL ratios?...I would be pissed to find out that some formula was in the game to cause every 33rd snap to be bad...I even think when interviewed a Dev mentioned something to the effect of having the CPU take over in that instance would cause more harm than good for those of us who play the game.

You can't hold Madden to a standard that no sports sim is doing...In the Show I have not sen any bean balls by the CPU...In 2k14 I don't think the CPU commits random hard fouls or gets technicals or plays Hack-a-Dwight. No sports game has been able to go completely organic...I don't think we are there yet...Its gonna be a while or more.

[Jet Sufferer]

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Well, yeah, but there are 5 million people outside this forum and other forums that accept mediocrity.

As opposed to roughly 12 million happy NFL video game football customers in 2004.

If Madden was good it could theoretically sell 10 million no problem. This once proud, beloved franchise now only survives because of it's exclusive NFL license.

If this game had to compete in an open market it would be lucky to crack a million or two from the die hards and name recognition. Then again with competition I doubt the game would be in the state it's been in the past 9 years. Sad, sad but true.

5 million units a year is not a success for the only NFL game on the market, it's a massive failure, whether it's profitable or not.

[royounggoku]

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This is good, how about we start using visual representations to backup our criticism, so as no one here be mistaken for a "2k fanboy".

[dat swag]

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Okay. I'm tired of this. You ignored my legitimate questions in the other thread.

Answer this question now please.

Who here is a 2k fanboy and what makes them that? What evidence do you have to prove that? Is is possible that people just want a good game of football or is that too much?

It's okay that you like the game. But making blanket statements like this is not going to fly here.

Please justify your accusations.

Not going to debate my opinion...so my answer to you is simple

[kehlis]

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This is good, how about we start using visual representations to backup our criticism, so as no one here be mistaken for a "2k fanboy".

It's really sad that after how many years people have resorted to that debate again as their only resort.

I never once in my life played 2k but have been accused of being a 2k fanboy lol.

[jbd345]

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It's funny how these are supposedly "gameplay" videos when they are still zoomed replay footage.

[charter04]

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Bro...if they put more penalties and bad snaps in the game...people will complain like no end...Plus anytime a sports videogame tries to implement these random sort of things it never works...I recall when Madden was riddled with PI calls to the point that all dudes would do is throw it up and get a PI...Now its almost the exact opposite...I never see them...occassionally in H2H...I just think its too difficult to implement a balance for when these things happen.

I mean how do they determine when a bad snap happens...Purely by numbers, NFL ratios?...I would be pissed to find out that some formula was in the game to cause every 33rd snap to be bad...I even think when interviewed a Dev mentioned something to the effect of having the CPU take over in that instance would cause more harm than good for those of us who play the game.

You can't hold Madden to a standard that no sports sim is doing...In the Show I have not sen any bean balls by the CPU...In 2k14 I don't think the CPU commits random hard fouls or gets technicals or plays Hack-a-Dwight. No sports game has been able to go completely organic...I don't think we are there yet...Its gonna be a while or more.

Great post. What I would say to that is just have a simulation option for guys who want all that. You could still have a head to head option that makes it less sim. And I hope no one uses 2k basketball's "Sim" option as an example of this done right. Lol. I've played it on 2K13 with that as my style and it wasn't too sim to me .

[kehlis]

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How do you prove an opinion?

I never asked you to prove an opinion????

In this thread, you accused some of being 2k fanboys. That's not an opinion but an accusation. Please prove it.

In the other thread, you appear to have no idea how players should be responding on the sideline and are clearly wrong yet you refuse to respond to me.

You can respond again with a GIF if you would like, but I assure you that you won't last here much longer if you do.

[Steven78]

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Bro...if they put more penalties and bad snaps in the game...people will complain like no end...Plus anytime a sports videogame tries to implement these random sort of things it never works...I recall when Madden was riddled with PI calls to the point that all dudes would do is throw it up and get a PI...Now its almost the exact opposite...I never see them...occassionally in H2H...I just think its too difficult to implement a balance for when these things happen.

I mean how do they determine when a bad snap happens...Purely by numbers, NFL ratios?...I would be pissed to find out that some formula was in the game to cause every 33rd snap to be bad...I even think when interviewed a Dev mentioned something to the effect of having the CPU take over in that instance would cause more harm than good for those of us who play the game.

You can't hold Madden to a standard that no sports sim is doing...In the Show I have not sen any bean balls by the CPU...In 2k14 I don't think the CPU commits random hard fouls or gets technicals or plays Hack-a-Dwight. No sports game has been able to go completely organic...I don't think we are there yet...Its gonna be a while or more.

There are no errors in MLB The Show?

Oh, and hate to break it to you, but the CPU does hit batters in The Show at times.

[royounggoku]

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It's really sad that after how many years people have resorted to that debate again as their only resort.

I never once in my life played 2k but have been accused of being a 2k fanboy lol.

You should give 2k8 a try, gameplay was great. Should be fairly cheap too.

[ocat]

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Don't expect anything to be changed/cleaned up. According to Vic Lugo, the game was finished over a month ago

[charter04]

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There are no errors in MLB The Show?

He didn't say that. An error is more like a dropped pass.

[kjcheezhead]

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Bro...if they put more penalties and bad snaps in the game...people will complain like no end...Plus anytime a sports videogame tries to implement these random sort of things it never works...I recall when Madden was riddled with PI calls to the point that all dudes would do is throw it up and get a PI...Now its almost the exact opposite...I never see them...occassionally in H2H...I just think its too difficult to implement a balance for when these things happen.

I mean how do they determine when a bad snap happens...Purely by numbers, NFL ratios?...I would be pissed to find out that some formula was in the game to cause every 33rd snap to be bad...I even think when interviewed a Dev mentioned something to the effect of having the CPU take over in that instance would cause more harm than good for those of us who play the game.

You can't hold Madden to a standard that no sports sim is doing...In the Show I have not sen any bean balls by the CPU...In 2k14 I don't think the CPU commits random hard fouls or gets technicals or plays Hack-a-Dwight. No sports game has been able to go completely organic...I don't think we are there yet...Its gonna be a while or more.

How do you think, false starts and face masks occur now? It's a random occurence. The problem is H2H, tourney guys want control over every aspect of the game. They want Madden ball money plays where they can "lab" and get the game down so if they hit Y at the right time, every time, the same thing will happen every time. Or set up a nano blitz that can't be blocked.

I didn't start playing 2k until current gen because I was a Madden fan on the ps2, but I can't bring up APF2k8 to you because that would make me a "fanboy" but that game successfully implemented bad snaps and penalties into their game. So I'll just say it can be done and leave it at that.

I just want an organic game, that has players move realistically and isn't stale and predictable. The fans that EA caters to now just want predictable. That's why they are dealing with so much negativity these days.