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  • ghettogeeksta
    Banned
    • Sep 2011
    • 2632

    #166
    Re: Madden NFL 25 Next Gen Video - The Prototype (QJB)

    I learned not to believe what EA says a long time ago, especially when it comes to Madden. Just because someone from EA says it don't make it true. EA reminds me of crooked used car salesmen, they will tell you everything you wanna here to make a sale, then a few weeks after your purchase you realize you've been bamboozled.

    Sorry, let me give EA some credit. We already know we've been bamboozled before the game has been released.
    Last edited by ghettogeeksta; 11-04-2013, 11:26 AM.

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    • Mr_Riddick
      Pro
      • Jan 2009
      • 1173

      #167
      Re: Madden NFL 25 Next Gen Video - The Prototype (QJB)

      Originally posted by jpdavis82
      I'm just going to make a Bash JP thread, y'all have a nice day.
      C'mon JP..

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      • AmericasTeam
        Rookie
        • Jul 2004
        • 210

        #168
        Re: Madden NFL 25 Next Gen Video - The Prototype (QJB)

        Originally posted by jpdavis82
        I'm just going to make a Bash JP thread, y'all have a nice day.
        You know what guys, I have just as many issues with the game as anyone here, but it's not right to ride JP like we're doing. He's optimistic about the future of Madden and there's nothing wrong with that. Also, he's not part of the dev team so why all the grief? He does a lot for the community here at OS so let's cut him some slack.

        Sometimes I wish I had his outlook instead if letting it irritate me as much as it does.

        Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N900A using Tapatalk

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        • Lilgoosy
          Rookie
          • Aug 2013
          • 40

          #169
          Originally posted by bucky60
          I would be on board if the steps weren't so minimal. It seems like they only worked on a small subset of the game, and the stuff they worked on was minimally implemented. Only 1 or at most 2 of 22 on the field get True Step? How do you implement a feature this way?
          yeah i guess you are right...well at this point i don't know what to say..

          let's put it that way; at least they are not confusing us with flashy trailers and amazing graphics that they cannot afford, and they are being realistic about what they think the improvements gonna be. hope so

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          • Boilerbuzz
            D* B**rs!
            • Jul 2002
            • 5154

            #170
            Re: Madden NFL 25 Next Gen Video - The Prototype (QJB)

            Originally posted by jpdavis82
            It is impressive what NBA next gen did and built it from the ground up. I'm not sure that we can compare the two at every level though.

            In the NBA you have 12-15 player models per team, in the nfl you have 50-60 player models per team, you have 15-25k fans in NBA stadiums vs 70-100k in the NFL.

            I think if 2k made a soccer game that would be a better comparison, especially with the stadium size. The NFL and football in general is just much more detailed than basketball and there's a lot more happening at once.

            That doesn't take away from what NBA 14 team accomplished, I'm just saying its at a much smaller scale.
            Fair. But just to hit on a couple of your points.

            1. In NBA game, you have 10 players compared to 22. But you are zoomed in MUCH closer and there is more detail in the models and the textures needed. Also, the crowd is closer to the action. So, in gameplay cameras (where you are talking about) there are hundreds of crowd and sideline actors that need more detail than NFL. In a football title, they can be 2D cutouts done right and it would look OK. So, actually, you're WAY off in your statement that there's more detail in football than in basketball.

            2. IF 2K could do a soccer or football game. That "IF" lays at the feet of EA and it's exclusive happy practices. But, if we're going apples to apples, the detail in NFL 2K5 compared to Madden 2005 is a good indicator.

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            • fldash
              Banned
              • Dec 2008
              • 448

              #171
              Re: Madden NFL 25 Next Gen Video - The Prototype (QJB)

              Oh my god... Watching those APF 2K8 videos... WHY DID THAT NOT HAVE BETTER CUSTOMIZATION AND FRANCHISE. I'd still be playing it. I miss it already...

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              • WISports
                Banned
                • Jun 2013
                • 2058

                #172
                Re: Madden NFL 25 Next Gen Video - The Prototype (QJB)

                Graphically, looks like current-gen.

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                • WISports
                  Banned
                  • Jun 2013
                  • 2058

                  #173
                  Re: Madden NFL 25 Next Gen Video - The Prototype (QJB)

                  Obviously EA knows they have no competition. But do they not have any pride??

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                  • ABR173rd
                    Rangers Lead The Way!!!!
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 1523

                    #174
                    Re: Madden NFL 25 Next Gen Video - The Prototype (QJB)

                    Originally posted by jpdavis82
                    I'm just going to make a Bash JP thread, y'all have a nice day.
                    JP,

                    Relax dude it isn't even like that, you've done a great job of posting content here before most of us realized that it was available and have offered some speculative information as to where Madden is headed. You of all people should know that if you come to a forum dedicated to Madden and try to debate about the future of this game that people are going to respond negatively. It has nothing to do with you personally, it's just the negative sentiment surrounding EA due to their own shortcomings.

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                    • thaking252
                      Rookie
                      • Jul 2012
                      • 6

                      #175
                      Re: Madden NFL 25 Next Gen Video - The Prototype (QJB)

                      calm down fellas, in 11 days we will know whats real. My take on it is EA don't see the need to release raw gameplay footage because you will have to actually play the game to feel the difference and if they did release the raw footage you guys would be bashing madden even worse, so I don't really blame them for not putting that footage out there. I actually think they gameplay for this transition is to undersell and over deliver, atleast that's what im hoping. Im getting the PS4 with 2k so im gonna just wait and see what the reviews both public and OS are before I get Madden tho

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                      • m1ke_nyc
                        10
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 3243

                        #176
                        Re: Madden NFL 25 Next Gen Video - The Prototype (QJB)

                        Originally posted by jpdavis82
                        I'm just going to make a Bash JP thread, y'all have a nice day.
                        Just hear me out. You told us Madden 25 current gen was gonna be a great game. It wasnt then you said Madden 25 next gen will be that game we are all waiting for. From the footage we have seen you are wrong again and now your telling us Madden 15 will be that game. On top of that members are saying you have been making comments like this for years. You put this on yourself. Nobody is bashing you, people are simply calling you out for the BS. How many times are you gonna tell us "next game" ? You defend it with your life, you end up being wrong, then you say next year.
                        It’s easier to do the right thing, than to explain why you didn’t.

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                        • royounggoku
                          Banned
                          • Sep 2013
                          • 753

                          #177
                          Re: Madden NFL 25 Next Gen Video - The Prototype (QJB)

                          Originally posted by thaking252
                          calm down fellas, in 11 days we will know whats real. My take on it is EA don't see the need to release raw gameplay footage because you will have to actually play the game to feel the difference and if they did release the raw footage you guys would be bashing madden even worse, so I don't really blame them for not putting that footage out there. I actually think they gameplay for this transition is to undersell and over deliver, atleast that's what im hoping. Im getting the PS4 with 2k so im gonna just wait and see what the reviews both public and OS are before I get Madden tho
                          That's honestly what I'm hoping for but in that case I hope they at least give a demo so we can feel it for ourselves. God knows I'm not gonna drop 65 bones without seeing some kind of a gameplay first.

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                          • VinnyVegas28
                            Pro
                            • Jan 2012
                            • 842

                            #178
                            Re: Madden NFL 25 Next Gen Video - The Prototype (QJB)

                            I understand many of you are frustrated with EA, and it is understandable. But lets leave JP out of this and not take out our frustration on him. If it weren't for JP, we wouldn't even have all of the Madden information to even talk about. Most of the Madden news is posted by him. I don't know about you but I rather have the Madden news than not have it at all leading up to the release. The guy wants what we all want, hope for the future of Madden! Nothing wrong with that. Despite the information about living worlds and other features that are being completely bashed, I will reserve my final judgement to when I actually have the game in hand.

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                            • Boilerbuzz
                              D* B**rs!
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 5154

                              #179
                              Re: Madden NFL 25 Next Gen Video - The Prototype (QJB)

                              Originally posted by VinnyVegas28
                              I understand many of you are frustrated with EA, and it is understandable. But lets leave JP out of this and not take out our frustration on him. If it weren't for JP, we wouldn't even have all of the Madden information to even talk about. Most of the Madden news is posted by him. I don't know about you but I rather have the Madden news than not have it at all leading up to the release. The guy wants what we all want, hope for the future of Madden! Nothing wrong with that. Despite the information about living worlds and other features that are being completely bashed, I will reserve my final judgement to when I actually have the game in hand.
                              Wait. That's wrong. First, people voice their disappointment and/or frustration with where they feel Madden is going (or not going in some cases). This is when JP jumps in to tell them that they shouldn't feel the way they feel. THAT is when JP bares the brunt of the backlash. He should just let folks vent and leave it alone. They already get what they feel is a "sales job" from EA. Why get it from one of their own? Folks resent that.

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                              • analogdan
                                Rookie
                                • Feb 2011
                                • 50

                                #180
                                "This looks disappointing" ... "I'm still going to buy it"

                                Hilarious. What incentive does EA have to change if people still buy their crappy product? NONE.

                                Learn how capitalism works. Vote with your wallet. At worst, buy the game used.

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