Madden NFL 25 Next Gen Video - IGNITE Technology & Next-Gen Visuals (QJB)

[ruttentud]

Re: Madden NFL 25 Next Gen Video - IGNITE Technology & Next-Gen Visuals (QJB)

It's like peeing on poo.

Best description ever?

[Ovie832]

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This three-word mantra pretty much sums up why Madden has failed to deliver a good product from Madden 11 forward.

A modern sports game cannot be simultaneously simple and deep. It has to choose one game style over the other. The same dichotomy applies to quickness vs. deep. Both elements cannot successfully exist in one game.

It didn't work back when Midway tried to play both sides of the sports market with NHL Hitz Pro and NFL Blitz Pro. And it's still not working today for EA Tiburon and Madden.

Yet each year, Madden tries to be both simple and deep, despite the fact that the two game styles are philosophically at odds.

Indecision creates division. Division ultimately leads to collapse.

I remember when I first saw the trailer for 11. I literally went 'uh oh' when I saw that simpler..quicker... deeper. Then hearing Ian talk about it made it worse. It made no sense and just proved their philosophy all along. They try to make their game 'APPEAR' sim. But it is far from it. I think they continue to do that into Next gen. All the interviews and feature blogs appear to be 'sim-based'... but when we see the game in motion it does not match up at all

[dcal]

Call me when someone else makes a football game.

[AuburnAlumni]

Re: Madden NFL 25 Next Gen Video - IGNITE Technology & Next-Gen Visuals (QJB)

EA,

NBA2k OS Forum....

Go there....

Watch vids....

Take notes....

Thank you.

[MrJCOreo]

Re: Madden NFL 25 Next Gen Video - IGNITE Technology & Next-Gen Visuals (QJB)

EA,

NBA2k OS Forum....

Go there....

Watch vids....

Take notes....

Thank you.

Oh my goodness.

http://www.polygon.com/2013/11/7/5076716/nba-2k14-ps4-xbox-one-eco-motion-engine-video

After seeing something like this, all I can really say is that I am really happy (and envious) for all of those who are die-hard basketball fans. This, along with overhauled My Career and My GM modes (seriously, read into what they've added or redone), makes me realize just what we football fans are missing out on. If what we fear becomes a reality with Madden when next gen drops, I may ignore football altogether and become a basketball fan. Just incredible...

[wordtobigbird]

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OTher thread was closed so I guess I'll say it here...

The Devs SHOULD be replying. What other way to dispel the negative feedback than to reassure the customer that you are listening? Negative posts shouldn't cause them to just be quiet.. They should be able to reply to post and say "we are working on this in ways A, B, C". If they continue to let the negative rumors spread it will only hurt them.

[SageInfinite]

Re: Madden NFL 25 Next Gen Video - IGNITE Technology & Next-Gen Visuals (QJB)

They should be able to reply to post and say "we are working on this in ways A, B, C". If they continue to let the negative rumors spread it will only hurt them.

Honestly it's not really that easy, because if they say they're working on "this" and want "that" in the game, and it doesn't make the cut, some members will attack and call them liars. Sometimes the way these games are developed and coded, especially Madden, things don't make it.

Just go back to the days when Ian was a heavy OS poster. He sold us some dreams that didn't make it into the game, whether his fault or not, he was attacked for it.

[roadman]

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I don't know, I thought the last interview Rex Dickson and Clint had a few weeks ago seemed like they had a game plan in place, just based on the comments.

It's just slower than what we want based on past history of the game.

[wordtobigbird]

Re: Madden NFL 25 Next Gen Video - IGNITE Technology & Next-Gen Visuals (QJB)

Honestly it's not really that easy, because if they say they're working on "this" and want "that" in the game, and it doesn't make the cut, some members will attack and call them liars. Sometimes the way these games are developed and coded, especially Madden, things don't make it.

Just go back to the days when Ian was a heavy OS poster. He sold us some dreams that didn't make it into the game, whether his fault or not, he was attacked for it.

Don't tell us dreams though.. tell us the reality of the situation. The game is already done, it's coming out in a week or so. They could easily clarify what is in the game now and what they are working for for next year.

Not only that, what about huge question like "What is up with these penalties effecting the gameplay more than the sliders?". So many things in this game WE have to figure out how they work with hours and hours of tinkering when EA could just explain it to us.

[roadman]

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Don't tell us dreams though.. tell us the reality of the situation. The game is already done, it's coming out in a week or so. They could easily clarify what is in the game now and what they are working for for next year.

Not only that, what about huge question like "What is up with these penalties effecting the gameplay more than the sliders?". So many things in this game WE have to figure out how they work with hours and hours of tinkering when EA could just explain it to us.

This is at the Gamestop website, I doubt if the marketing is changing for this years game and next years game we will start hearing information around April, based on history.

KEY FEATURES

See It
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Feel It
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War in the Trenches - Offensive and Defensive line play is at the heart of football, and now it's the foundation of Madden NFL 25. 4x more decisions per second and 300 new blocking interactions create the most realistic running lanes for the ballcarrier and passing pockets for the QB. Offensive lineman will dynamically sort and shift assignments based on threats countering over 3x new defensive line animations and the latest blitz packages, highlighting the most physical and intense battles in the NFL.

Live It
Madden Living World - Feel the anxiety of the crowd as you step up to the line on 4th and goal. Watch your teammates and coaches react with excitement as you blaze down the sideline for a game-changing score. Hear the most intelligent commentary in franchise history, as Phil Simms, Jim Nantz and sideline reporter Danielle Bellini recall key moments about your career including your injuries, stats and accolades. Each stadium is dynamic, filled with energy, emotion, and action. In Madden NFL 25, feel the pulse of every game, every score, every play.

Owner Mode - Become the ultimate sports tycoon as you take the reins of your favorite team to manage personnel, set prices, build the next cutting-edge stadium, and more in an all-new Owner Mode.

[SageInfinite]

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Don't tell us dreams though.. tell us the reality of the situation. The game is already done, it's coming out in a week or so. They could easily clarify what is in the game now and what they are working for for next year.

I think Rex and Clint pretty much already did that in those interviews that were conducted.

[wordtobigbird]

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I was referring to

No, the devs still visit and see our feedback.

They just don't post much and I can't say I blame them.

I'm just saying, they could easily post and dispel some of this negative feedback if in fact these people are wrong. Why would you not want to correct them? Why continue to read and not say "hey the sidelines are interactive. we will show more later."

I've seen plenty of questions that could get a response and would ease a lot of peoples minds about next-gen.

[roadman]

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I was referring to



I'm just saying, they could easily post and dispel some of this negative feedback if in fact these people are wrong. Why would you not want to correct them? Why continue to read and not say "hey the sidelines are interactive. we will show more later."

I've seen plenty of questions that could get a response and would ease a lot of peoples minds about next-gen.

It just won't work and it would create extra duty for mods who work, go to school, and have a career. It was tried back in the Ian days and he received death threats.

[jpdavis82]

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It just won't work and it would create extra duty for mods who work, go to school, and have a career. It was tried back in the Ian days and he received death threats.

Death threats over a video game? That's ridiculous. People need to get their priorities straight.

[Boilerbuzz]

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I'm just saying, they could easily post and dispel some of this negative feedback if in fact these people are wrong. Why would you not want to correct them? Why continue to read and not say "hey the sidelines are interactive. we will show more later."

I've seen plenty of questions that could get a response and would ease a lot of peoples minds about next-gen.

Sorry man. But that has rarely been the case. There are plenty of examples were one would come on a thread to set things right, and people continue to believe what they want to believe.