Madden 25 Next-Gen Living Worlds Trailer

[kehlis]

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It's not about who the programmers are guys. It's all about who is calling the shots in their department. Blame the people who tell the programmers what do do with the game as a whole. It's EA Sports and the decisions that are made within it, which cause such issues with the game. They all collaborate as a team. So open your ey s and understand that a few different programmers would never make a difference. As long as we have th head hanchoes working there at EA Sports Tiburon right now, nothing will change like you think it's supposed to.

May want to re-read my posts and see what I'm suggesting sir.

You just agreed with me lol so maybe we both need to open our eyes???

[ghettogeeksta]

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I agree somewhat, but it still doesn't explain the bad implementation and the numerous silly bugs. Or the head scratching omissions, like no head sets on the head coaches for current gen. I highly doubt a suit said "Hey no headsets on coaches! Save that for next gen......".

It's not devs, the devs for Madden just don't get much support from the suits. Its like they said we bought the NFL license no need to worry about Madden it will sell off its name. Madden needs a new graphics, animation, and physics engine, a brand new football engine with the basics like foot-planting, gang tackling, wr/db interactions, blocking/line play, crowd and sideline interactions built in the core the engine. But the suits at EA won't spend the money on that kind of tech for the Madden devs. A mechcanic is as only as good as their tools.

[Hilldog39]

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Nor cheerleaders.

Very true, would be a great addition, but having no refs on the field is definitely immersion killer

[roadman]

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Very true, would be a great addition, but having no refs on the field is definitely immersion killer

It was proven several weeks ago with a picture there is a ref in the game.

[CaptainZombie]

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I liked it. Like to see the sidelines are finally alive. Its an improved version of the current gen version so I'm happy.

That's not saying much... This is how low EA has set the bar for Madden lol.

I enjoyed the PS3 version, so if they fixed the issues that plagued the PS3 versions when compared to the Xbox over the years I'll be happy. I do agree with a lot of guys on here though that NBA2K14 looks amazing with what 2K has done when compared to what EA is showing.

[Hassan Darkside]

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That's a fair point but I will stand by my troubleshooting analogy.

If the variable keeps changing with no success, what is the constant that is unchanged?



A dev came over to Madden from the Show this year. How did that change Madden?

I agree and definitely think EA's leadership team is the root cause of the poor quality games. Across the board. Even with NBA Live, you had Mike Wang from 2k leave because "it became very clear that the vision [he] had for the game was different from where the leadership wanted to take it."

I think that's been the same with the Madden Devs like Ian Cummings or AJ Dembroski.

"My least favorite thing was also the size. Big company means lots of people that can make decisions. Like steering a big ship but 10 people all have wheels. I felt honored to be able to help shape the direction of Madden but I never really felt like I was in control. "

"Direction and priorities have changed with different leadership. Many features were added to Madden and then later cut...you didn't see that in the other games."

"It's sad that so many brilliant people at EA are held back by corporate structure..."

It's sad.

[jpdavis82]

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It was proven several weeks ago with a picture there is a ref in the game.

There is a ref on the field, and also a chain gang on the sidelines, that moves out of the way if you are running down the sidelines. I just posted some cliff notes about some of these things in the Press Row Podcast Living Worlds interview thread.

[SageInfinite]

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It's not devs, the devs for Madden just don't get much support from the suits. Its like they said we bought the NFL license no need to worry about Madden it will sell off its name. Madden needs a new graphics, animation, and physics engine, a brand new football engine with the basics like foot-planting, gang tackling, wr/db interactions, blocking/line play, crowd and sideline interactions built in the core the engine. But the suits at EA won't spend the money on that kind of tech for the Madden devs. A mechcanic is as only as good as their tools.

I can't solely place the blame on the idiots in suits. If Madden was immaculate at what at what it is supposed to be, then I could, but some things just don't function properly or look good. Now maybe we can blame the suits soley for not hiring the right men and women for the job, but I can't blame everything on them.

[kehlis]

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I can't solely place the blame on the idiots in suits. If Madden was immaculate at what at what it is supposed to be, then I could, but some things just don't function properly or look good. Now maybe we can blame the suits soley for not hiring the right men and women for the job, but I can't blame everything on them.

This is kind of my point. I think the root of the problem lies with a disconnect between the devs and the suits as to what the game is supposed to be.

[JCHISENH2016]

The living sideline is great and all, but they had that in APF 2k8 as well... this isn't really "next-gen' quality content... aside from graphics, it's just the same thing Madden has been for years, a game behind its time.

[Hilldog39]

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It was proven several weeks ago with a picture there is a ref in the game.

I've been following the next-gen Madden pretty closely, but I must have missed seeing that picture, can you link me to it?

[tnixen]

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I've been following the next-gen Madden pretty closely, but I must have missed seeing that picture, can you link me to it?

Here you go

[Hilldog39]

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Here you go

Cool, That screen shot I have not seen, good to see that refs made it in

[kehlis]

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Maybe I'm missing something but why was there concern ref's wouldn't be in?

[SageInfinite]

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This is kind of my point. I think the root of the problem lies with a disconnect between the devs and the suits as to what the game is supposed to be.

I just don't believe the suits have anything to do with guys celebrating in the wrong endzone, the crowd booing when the home team wins a challenge, the missing headsets, the wind pointing in the wrong direction, the repetitive and out of place cutscenes, players coming to a complete stop on pitch plays when the speed is set on anything below normal, ect.....

I'm not saying the suits don't have a major influence on the game and it's direction, but the if their weren't so many little things wrong, I'd have a easier time blaming them solely. I know these devs work hard, but the final product is all I'm concerned with as a consumer/gamer.