NBA 2K14 Next-Gen Review (IGN)

[spankdatazz22]

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madden has shown some improvement in the gameplay where it was lacking. oline/dline play has been improved, which is a pretty major poe for a lot of people myself included.


tbh i didnt notice much if any improvement in the ai from 2k13 to 2k14.

Madden...?

lol no need to continue, I'll just leave it as your perspective and mine differing. So one game can be regarded as a disappointment for an entire generation, then get credit for SHOWING improvement - while you didn't see much improvement between 2K13 and 2K14, which is largely regarded as one of the best sports titles of the entire 360/PS3 generation... As I said you have a right to your opinion. I feel safe saying I think most don't feel the way you do.

[Optik]

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Some of ya'll take this 2k ish way too serious, it's a $60 VIDEO GAME that looks amazing and i'm not just talking graphically. If you want a perfect basketball game, go outside, grab a ball and play basketball. smh some of ya'll take nitpicking to whole other level on this site. How long have ya'll been playing video games? you do realize no game is or will be perfect right?!

Translation: Some of you on this forum, which is dedicated to sports simulation gaming, take this basketball simulation far too seriously, even though I can't actually quantify the level of seriousness (because who cares about quantification when it's far easier for me to just attack your character and make general sweeping statements?).

Don't you understand that it's just a $60 VIDEO GAME, and by both bringing up its relatively cheap price and capitalising the phrase "VIDEO GAME", I am shaming for thinking you should have expected more? Are you too stupid to realise that video games will never be like real life and even though I am attacking a complete strawman by claiming that you want perfection, I still have the temerity to blame you. I will now bring up the well-worn cliche about going outside to play basketball if you want "perfection" in order to conclude my strawman argument.

I will now shake my head at you to bring further condescension to this post and attack your every critique of the game as "nitpicking" in order to frame you as an unsatisfiable gamer.

I will now rhetorically question your length of video game experience, and the assumption built into this question is that you haven't been playing very long as I can now bring up the often brought up argument blaming the new generation for being too impatient and ungrateful, since in the Stone Age of video gaming, I had to be satisfied with a few pixels moving. This rhetorical question is obviously asked to shame you and your youthful inexperience and ingratitude.

I now conclude this post by once again rhetorically questioning your grasp of reality and once again shame you by attacking the same strawman argument regarding the perfection of video games.

[VDusen04]

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You have a right to have that expectation, but imo it's highly unrealistic. Of the next gen games that are releasing on both current gen and next gen (Call of Duty, Madden, FIFA, Battlefield 4, Assassins Creed 4, etc.), name the ones that are completely different experiences. None. I looked at the FIFA review and the reviewer repeatedly says it's not much different than the current gen game other than the newer system allows for more animations and better graphic fidelity.

I think a lot of people are just trying to figure out what next gen is going to mean for these initial titles. The visuals have been outstanding and next level and there's been claims of a new engine bandied about, so I think it's understandable that some were expecting the gameplay to have a next-gen feel as well, whether that was a realistic expectation or not.

Either way, for some, a $500 purchase is hinging upon their impressions from next gen 2K14, so it makes sense to hear a lot of varying opinions - people are trying to feel this thing out. I think a lot of people are wondering, if expecting a huge improvement from current to next gen is unrealistic, then is it worth putting down that cash?

[banksboy87]

me and my homies are going to play the hell out of this, thats all that matters.,....

[El_Poopador]

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Madden...?

lol no need to continue, I'll just leave it as your perspective and mine differing. So one game can be regarded as a disappointment for an entire generation, then get credit for SHOWING improvement - while you didn't see much improvement between 2K13 and 2K14, which is largely regarded as one of the best sports titles of the entire 360/PS3 generation... As I said you have a right to your opinion. I feel safe saying I think most don't feel the way you do.

i didnt say madden was going to be a vast improvement on cg. and i never said cg wasnt a disappointment. all i said was that they were able to work on things that needed improvement under the hood. again i think people focus too much on graphics and not enough on what makes the game actually realistic which is ai and gameplay. you dismissing my comment that one game improved on something other than graphics shows that.

[spankdatazz22]

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I think a lot of people are just trying to figure out what next gen is going to mean for these initial titles. The visuals have been outstanding and next level and there's been claims of a new engine bandied about, so I think it's understandable that some were expecting the gameplay to have a next-gen feel as well, whether that was a realistic expectation or not.

Then hold ALL the games to that same standard.

I'll ask again: which of the next gen titles that are releasing on both the current and next gen systems represent an entirely different gameplay experience?

If you're going into this generation expecting every game to be some wholly new experience and none of them are, then I'd have to say the problem lies in the person having unrealistic expectations, not the games themselves.

EDIT: I see you mentioned "new engine" and I think to some that means "entirely different game". When the current gen game was already considered to be the best basketball ever - why would anyone realistically expect them to throw the baby out with the bath water and go in a completely different direction when it wasn't necessary? Or even practical?

EDIT EDIT:

Either way, for some, a $500 purchase is hinging upon their impressions from next gen 2K14, so it makes sense to hear a lot of varying opinions - people are trying to feel this thing out. I think a lot of people are wondering, if expecting a huge improvement from current to next gen is unrealistic, then is it worth putting down that cash?

For some it's not worth putting down the extra money, for others it is. As someone that's been around through every gaming console generation, frankly I was far more excited when the Dreamcast released and felt it had a huge/varied launch library than any other generation. We really don't have system launches where there's a guaranteed system seller or a game that can be regarded as generation-defining at launch. I look back at system launch titles like Mario 64, Soul Calibur, Halo, etc. - these were games that represented a monumental leap between what came before them. But we haven't gotten those type of games at launch for the last two generations at least. So because of that I don't think it's practical to hold the games to that expectation.

So the question then comes down to your point on whether it's worth putting down $500-$600 for a new system and it's going to depend on the individual. I'm just saying I don't see where NBA2K14 next gen can be regarded any differently than any of the other next gen titles. Especially when it seems to represent a more distinctive improvement over it's current gen counterpart. If you're going to think "it didn't improve enough for me", then none of the titles meet that standard.

[Cripterion]

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No one else notice New York bench players wearing warmups? I thought they weren't in? What gives?

[hoopsjones84]

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No one else notice New York bench players wearing warmups? I thought they weren't in? What gives?

Saw that too. I dunno whats up with that. Interesting though. I had to rewind it to make sure i wasnt seeing stuff


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[VDusen04]

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Then hold ALL the games to that same standard.

I'll ask again: which of the next gen titles that are releasing on both the current and next gen systems represent an entirely different gameplay experience?

If you're going into this generation expecting every game to be some wholly new experience and none of them are, then I'd have to say the problem lies in the person having unrealistic expectations, not the games themselves.

I have to be honest, I mean this nicely, but I don't care about any other sports games at this point. Aside from a neat blog post a week ago by The Show, I haven't seen any information on any other next generation sports games. I think some, like myself, are concerned with what NBA 2K14 next gen is providing, period, not what it's providing in comparison to games we do not care about in the first place.

To try to put it more clearly, if one finds 2K's next gen non-graphical improvements unspectacular, I do not think they'll be more moved to buy the product simply because their unspectacular improvements still exceed what other games are putting forth.

If you're going into this generation expecting every game to be some wholly new experience and none of them are, then I'd have to say the problem lies in the person having unrealistic expectations, not the games themselves.

I'd say, if next generation gaming isn't supposed to provide wholly new experiences, then what may be the motivation of immediately spending $500 on an upgrade? On the previous generation, I balked at NBA 2K6 for 360 because it seemed like a graphical upgrade of the game I already had. However, 2K7 seemed to be a wholly new experience, and I had a tough time denying such a purchase. I think it makes sense for consumers to want something substantial out of a large monetary investment. And if it's not there yet (which we're still trying to figure out) then it may be worth waiting a little bit.

EDIT: I see you mentioned "new engine" and I think to some that means "entirely different game". When the current gen game was already considered to be the best basketball ever - why would anyone realistically expect them to throw the baby out with the bath water and go in a completely different direction when it wasn't necessary? Or even practical?

Yeah, I feel ya. I can't even remember what the exact quote was about the next gen engine. I doubt they said it was literally going to be a new engine built from the ground up. But the rumors spread nonetheless and I think imaginations ran wild. With such impressive graphical upgrades, and such secrecy and very little gameplay releases, I think a lot of folks were maybe imagining things like defenders not randomly running out of bounds on rotations anymore, rebounders not boxing out air, and Stephen Curry not two hand hammering like Kenyon.

I understand those could be unrealistic expectations, but I suppose that's me agreeing with you that many just didn't know exactly what to expect. I didn't know what to expect. I'm still not entirely sure really.

[bigeastbumrush]

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The broadcast gameplay looked beautiful. Shame on 2K for not showing it off prior to this. Acting scary for no reason.

I have no interest in MyGM or the Park. Cousins miming his thoughts was

The amount of loose balls is excessive. I don't think in your average NBA game you don't see it constantly. We've seen it in pretty much every video so far. Hopefully sliders can tune that.

Beyond that, the expectations for this game were way too high. Hopefully in 2K15 they can finally fix all of these legacy issues because the game does play a very good brand of basketball. They just need some fine tuning in gameplay areas such as control (we need more of it), rebounding and player movements.

[TheRealHST]

Create players looks good

CANNOT WAIT FOR DRAFT CLASSES NOW...YESSSSSSSS

[TeeDogg]

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I think at some point it became the "Thing to do" asking for a new engine. Build it from ground up. Without asking why. When we hammered EA over it years ago it was because their gameplay engine was incapable of things other games were doing and doing extremely well. EAs games felt like they were still based on the original PlayStation (player interactions). They were sorely behind the curve.

Now it just seems people demand it because its "internet cool" lol. 2K would be complete idiots to throw away their code and start over. Again live had to and look how long its taking them to put something together. From what I've seen and read about eco-motion I'm convinced I'll be happy with my next gen purchase. The games always look smoother in person and with speed adjustments. If the A.I. and game play is as good as before or improved at all (I expect it will) I'm good.

[Cripterion]

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Saw that too. I dunno whats up with that. Interesting though. I had to rewind it to make sure i wasnt seeing stuff


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Maybe some left over code from last gen version? Do we know if he was playing the retail game?
I still don't understand what's the reasoning for not having them + some cheerleader *** in next gen, I know it's just a nitpick but I thought the number of people in arenas would increase with more power, not the other way around.

[NDiLeo25]

Does anyone know if in My GM we have to have full 82 game seasons or can it be shortened? This is a huge deal to me and probably a few others

[swiftychampleone]

This game doesn't have much worth to me without 30-team control and freedom to edit in MyGM mode. I hope these options are available in the regular "Season Mode" in this game that I've heard about in this forum. The game looks beautiful and everything, no doubt but man is this a killer for me. It sucks seeing a game this great but having to wait until next year for them to include these options.

Any reason why 2K can't just patch this based on everyone's reaction? Is the coding that difficulty? If so, fine.