Madden NFL 25 Next-Gen First Impressions

[bigsmallwood]

There is some sort of in game save. I stopped playing a game with the Broncos last night...removed the disc and all....just loaded it back up and it asked if I wanted to continue my previous game! Gotta love it! #PS4

Game is best played on Zoomed camera...VERY solid effort though. This is the best pure football game that EA has released in years....Next Gen version only though. Love the footplanting tech...I wish that Precision modifier was optional....and I like how the crowd reacts so far to what is happening on the field.

[roadman]

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I agree, and this needs to be shown both ways. People shouldn't be made to feel they are wrong because someone else see's something in a game they do not. Ryan Moody may very well feel that the AI is still too easy, but there are a lot of OS guy who are not seeing this -

In the end they are just opinions, and no one has the right to shove theirs down another persons throat -

I've viewed a few of his videos and it's not about the AI being too easy, it's about the AI making boneheaded errors.

Now, there was a twitter conversation going back and forth today between several people and Clint Oldenburg. Clint was good enough, in my opinion, to take the constructive criticism and responded to one of the claims and agreed about the QB making a unbelievable throw.

Just wanted to clarify easy AI vs boneheaded AI. Nothing more, nothing less.

[4thQtrStre5S]

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I have yet to see anything from Ryan Moody critiquing M25 Next Gen, and I have asked if anyone could present the article or video, but to no avail, shall I assume there is nothing but an interview with former NFL player Johnny Rutledge by this Moody phantom?

I would like to see if his review makes some good points...

[bkrich83]

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I've viewed a few of his videos and it's not about the AI being too easy, it's about the AI making boneheaded errors.

Now, there was a twitter conversation going back and forth today between several people and Clint Oldenburg. Clint was good enough, in my opinion, to take the constructive criticism and responded to one of the claims and agreed about the QB making a unbelievable throw.

Just wanted to clarify easy AI vs boneheaded AI. Nothing more, nothing less.

There are obvious legacy issues still in the game. I think that's been stated by anyone who's played with positive or negative impressions.

[bucky60]

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Respect? That's irony. There's nothing bogus about the agenda card, there's a reason that was written in to the TOS. If you want to believe in unicorns and fairy tales and that it's all about the betterment of the community that's fine, but it's blatantly obvious with a number of users that's no where near the case.

Continue with the victim card though.

So now you decide to attack and disrespect me and my opinion by accusing me of believing in unicorns and fairy tales. I'm seeing a pattern here.

[bluengold34_OS]

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I've viewed a few of his videos and it's not about the AI being too easy, it's about the AI making boneheaded errors.

Now, there was a twitter conversation going back and forth today between several people and Clint Oldenburg. Clint was good enough, in my opinion, to take the constructive criticism and responded to one of the claims and agreed about the QB making a unbelievable throw.

Just wanted to clarify easy AI vs boneheaded AI. Nothing more, nothing less.

Actually Roadman I have not even seen his review - but I appreciate you pointing that out -

[bkrich83]

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So now you decide to attack and disrespect me and my opinion by accusing me of believing in unicorns and fairy tales. I'm seeing a pattern here.

Pattern? Irony.

[Big FN Deal]

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So you've played a lot of the PS4 version?

That's a fair point given the thread title/topic, I have played it briefly, my gf's spoiled son has it already but not enough to give an insightful impression. Now considering the thread title/topic, I won't continue to post off topic.

[4thQtrStre5S]

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I have yet to see anything from Ryan Moody critiquing M25 Next Gen, and I have asked if anyone could present the article or video, but to no avail, shall I assume there is nothing but an interview with former NFL player Johnny Rutledge by this Moody phantom?

I would like to see if his review makes some good points...

okay, never mind, I found the video myself, and as I thought I did already counter his critique....There are holes in his review...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qwdtx6Dc7k0

1 - Colts 93 is tracking Locker and does as he should, changing his pursuit angle...There was no clear shot on Locker as locker was rolling right and Walden's stunt had him going to the inside (left side from offensive perspective) The stop is the players change of direction. The weird look of the tackle picking up the block is just an example of Madden's poor animations and player models, IMO.

2 - LB Freeman, runs into his man while looking at the QB, he slides around DE Mathis but is met by the blocking RB; all of this is seen in any football game. Once again, Madden's poor animations make it look worse than it should, IMO.

3 - Angerer goes to the opposite side of field because as we saw earlier the RB was heading to that side of the field before picking up the block on LB Freeman - I would call this a zone defense....Could be that Angerer was man up on the RB and the safety was in a deep zone, maybe a Cover 2 under "D?" - also consider that the RB could be on a block & release assignment...Could also be that the RB was going on a flat route and because of the pass rush path, changed his path to block?

4- same player motions/animations - I agree, teh same old stuff and it needs to be changed. Madden has been milking these same terrible animations and player models for too long...

( I am not stating that Ryan Moody is wrong, just proposing other possibilities..)

[roadman]

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Actually Roadman I have not even seen his review - but I appreciate you pointing that out -

Yeah, he even calls them legacy issues.

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The CB blitz Clint explained the RB darted over when the QB started glancing left. Said it happens in the NFL. Clint did agree with the QB throw.

[speels]

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I've enjoyed the game so far. Only had one play that had me shaking my head. I had the running back setup on the left and another on the right. I hiked the ball and the RB on the right busted towards the sidelines. I threw him the ball, but he was tackled immediately. Now this doesn't seems too shady until I looked at the replay and noticed that the guy that tackled him was the OLB on the opposite side of the field!! I went into slow mo replay and both players took the exact same amount of steps, however the OLB traveled almost half again as far as my RB. I thought that maybe I had a super slow runner, but when I checked the attributes, my RB was an 86 spd and the OLB was 85 speed.

Again, not a game breaker, but it was a pain because my guy was wide open and would have had a great chance of picking up the first down and at least putting me into field goal range!!

[bkrich83]

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Yeah, he even calls them legacy issues.

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The CB blitz Clint explained the RB darted over when the QB started glancing left. Said it happens in the NFL. Clint did agree with the QB throw.

I don't really have a problem with the blitz pickup. That happens every game, irl, or at least it's a close facsimile of what happens in every game.

The QB animation, and I've seen those types a few times in the games I have played, is bad, and has been for some time.

[4thQtrStre5S]

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Yeah, he even calls them legacy issues.

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The CB blitz Clint explained the RB darted over when the QB started glancing left. Said it happens in the NFL. Clint did agree with the QB throw.

Those amazing off balance throws do happen, rarely; my concern would be if it was a constant throw in game...As for the pass rusher going towards the blocking RB, you have to address the blocker, else you risk getting blown up and potentially injured..

[bkrich83]

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Those amazing off balance throws do happen, rarely; my concern would be if it was a constant throw in game...As for the pass rusher going towards the blocking RB, you have to address the blocker, else you risk getting blown up and potentially injured..

The good news on those awkward QB throws at least in my limited experience, has been when they make those throws the accuracy is severely impacted. In the past versions of the game, the QB would make a 280 degree turn, and then throw a dart across the field 30 yards downfield on target.


I just played vs. Miami and saw Tannehill make two of those types of throws and they both missed their target by a long way and had nowhere near the juice on them to reach their target.

[4thQtrStre5S]

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The good news on those awkward QB throws at least in my limited experience, has been when they make those throws the accuracy is severely impacted. In the past versions of the game, the QB would make a 280 degree turn, and then throw a dart across the field 30 yards downfield on target.


I just played vs. Miami and saw Tannehill make two of those types of throws and they both missed their target by a long way and had nowhere near the juice on them to reach their target.

Knowing the accuracy is greatly reduced, so far, makes me breathe a sigh of relief...Thank for the info.